Well, I beg to differ brother.
Nice. It appears your list of arguments have been filtered down to a couple after my response. Alhamdulillah.
For example, in your reply 16 you suggested that ibn abbas believed in muta in extreme case like eating of the swine etc....
My response is: The eating of the swine is permissible in extreme cases and is allowed because your life can depend on it. If you are starving and there is only the pig and if you don't eat, you can die.
I ask, how is this comparable with Mutah in extreme cases? I mean have you heard of anyone who has died due to lack of sex? lol.
Like an average Shia, even you too have poor understanding skills. Ibn Abbas didn't compare Mutah with flesh of swine or meat of dead animal, for the purpose of eating in extreme case. Rather he used these examples merely to determine that Haram thing becomes halal in the time of extreme need.
As for what extreme situation it could be that Mutah was to be considered Halal, then see this example:
Musannaf `Abdul-Razzaq(Grading: Sahih) :
عَنِ ابْنِ عُيَيْنَةَ ، عَنْ إِسْمَاعِيلَ ، عَنْ قَيسٍ ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مَسْعُودٍ ، قَالَ : " كُنَّا نَغْزُو مَعَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ، فَتَطُولُ غُرْبَتُنَا , فَقُلْنَا : أَلا نَتَخَصَّى يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ؟ فَنَهَانَا ، ثُمَّ رَخَّصَ أَنْ نَتَزَوَّجَ الْمَرْأَةَ إِلَى أَجَلٍ بِالشَّيْءِ ، ثُمَّ نَهَانَا عَنْهَا يَوْمَ خَيْبَرَ ، وَعَنْ لُحُومِ الْحُمُرِ الإِنْسِيَّةِ " .
[From ibn `Uyaynah, from Isma`eel ibn abi Khalid, from Qays bin `Awf, from `Abdullah ibn Mas`oud (ra) that he said: "We used to make Ghazawat with the messenger (SAWS), so our absence would be very long (from home), so we said: "
Should we castrate ourselves O messenger of Allah?" So he forbade us from it and made us a Rukhsa that we can marry the woman for a temporary time in exchange for something, then he forbade us from it on the day of Khaybar and the meat of the domestic donkey.]
So, you have got an idea what, extreme situation in regards to mutah would mean.
Come on brother, think about what you write and read your own posts carefully. I think I have had enough to say on this matter. No more rebuttals would be required because, quite frankly, I am disappointed with the arguments.
Infact I see your arguments as immature and unacademic. Why? Well you try to mock the comparison, which Ibn Abbas(ra) made between meat of dead animal or swine meat with Mutah. Fine. So if you find it unreasonable, then know that Ibn Abbas(ra) was wrong in his analogy. Because its not my view, it was his view. Hence, reject it as its unreasonable in your view. So you shot yourself in the foot.
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October 14, 2015, 11:51:34 AM