Intellectual dishonesty of

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Intellectual dishonesty of
« on: June 29, 2017, 06:24:00 PM »

First Question: Are there any authentic Sunni references that highlight Umar’s actions at the home of Sayyida Fatima (as)?

The answer is there are. We read in Musnaf of Imam Ibn Abi Shebah, Volume 7 page 432 Tradition 37045:

“Narrated Muhammad bin Bashir from Ubaidllah bin Umar from Zaid bin Aslam that his father Aslam said: ‘When the homage (baya) went to Abu Bakr after the Messenger of Allah, Ali and Zubair were entering into the house of Fatima to consult her and revise their issue, so when Umar came to know about that, he went to Fatima and said : ‘Oh daughter of Messenger of Allah, no one is dearest to us more than your father and no one dearest to us after your father than you, I swear by Allah, if these people gathered in your house then nothing will prevent me from giving order to burn the house and those who are inside.’

So when Umar left, they (Ali and Zubair) came , so she (Fatima) said to them: ‘Do you know that Umar came here and swear by Allah to burn the house if you gather here, I swear by God that he (Umar) will execute his oath, so please leave wisely and take a decision and don’t gather here again.’ So they left her and didn’t gather there till they give baya to Abu Bakr.”

COMMENTS: This single report is enough to destroy all their flase beliefs. This report proves that no threats were made to syeda Fatima but via her to others. She herself ordered Imam Ali and others to go and give bayah to Hz. Abu bakr. So bayah was given in her life. Yet shiapen had quoted this report knowing that it do not support them in any manner.

Second Question: Are there any secondary Sunni references that support this authentic one?

The answer is yes. Other Sunni sources might not be as authentic in terms of chains as Musnaf but they should in no way be discounted for they place Umar at the crime scene and evidence his conduct on that fateful day. Crucially they corroborate the authentic Musnaf tradition.

COMMENTS: Now here shiapen itself admits that all other narrations in this case are not authentic yet they had considered all such reports only because they support their fairytales and corrupt manmade beliefs.

Courtesy intellectual dishonesty of shiapen. Courtesy ignorance of shiapen. Courtesy corrupt agenda of shiapen.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 06:26:30 PM by fgss »
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May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen


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