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Ibn Yahya

Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« on: July 14, 2015, 05:48:38 AM »
Jami' at-Tirmidhi 4025

Narrated Hudhaifah [may Allah be pleased with him]:
"We were sitting with the Prophet (ﷺ) and he said: 'I do not know how long I will be with you, so stick to the two after me,' and he signalled towards Abu Bakr and 'Umar."

Surely this is a much clearer sign of their right to Khilafah and their deserving and recommendation to appoint them by the Prophet than any Hadith the Shi'ah can give.

Furkan

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2015, 01:18:41 AM »
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“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

Ibn Yahya

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2015, 04:04:33 PM »
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Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 01:19:42 PM »
There is a another one in Bukhari where Prophet (saw) says believers will not accept anyone other than Abubakr.
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Ibn Yahya

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2015, 03:50:04 AM »
There is a another one in Bukhari where Prophet (saw) says believers will not accept anyone other than Abubakr.
there's a Mutawatir hadith where the Prophet tells people to go to abu bakr if he's not available

zeeshan-salafi

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2017, 10:15:18 AM »
6.   Hudhayfah (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "Follow those who succeed me: Abu Bakr and `Umar."     [Ahmad (5/ 382), and At-Tirmidhy No. (3662)]
This is a good Hadith. Shu`ayb Al Arna`ut said: A good Hadith by its similar narrations. This chain of transmission contains trustworthy narrators of Al Bukhari and Muslim, but it is interrupted. It was reported from the Hadith of `Abdullah ibn Mas`ud, Anas ibn Malik, and `Abdullah ibn `Umar (may Allah be pleased with them). And see: As-Silsilah As-Sahihah, (3/ 233) No. (1233
« Last Edit: October 23, 2017, 10:17:41 AM by zeeshan-salafi »

zeeshan-salafi

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2017, 10:16:52 AM »
   Hudhayfah (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "Follow those who succeed me: Abu Bakr and `Umar."     [Ahmad (5/ 382), and At-Tirmidhy No. (3662)]
This is a good Hadith. Shu`ayb Al Arna`ut said: A good Hadith by its similar narrations. This chain of transmission contains trustworthy narrators of Al Bukhari and Muslim, but it is interrupted. It was reported from the Hadith of `Abdullah ibn Mas`ud, Anas ibn Malik, and `Abdullah ibn `Umar (may Allah be pleased with them). And see: As-Silsilah As-Sahihah, (3/ 233) No. (1233

Najamsethii484

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2017, 12:33:50 PM »
why was omar 2nd caliph if he was to be Prophet after Prophet Muhammad Saww in your fake and false beliefs he should have been 1st caliph because according to your false beliefs he was more deserving very unlogic religion you guys have its based on lies only

Najamsethii484

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2017, 12:37:47 PM »
naozobillah you guys say that omar was so deserving that he would have been Prophet if Prophethood wouldnt have stopped after Prophet Muhammad Saww then automatically he should have been 1st caliph and not the second one very strange and fake hadiths you guys have made abu hurairah said if i start to tell truth then all will cut my head off he used to lie so much that even he didnt know what he wrote very confusing religion sunnism is its based on lies only. jews made your religion i think so or maybe you guys founded by yourself fake hadith everyday is coming out may Allah Swt guide you

iceman

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2017, 03:08:03 PM »
If Abu Bakr was the dearest of men to the Prophet (s) and was superior than Omar in fact that all the companions in virtues and qualities, then how could he say: “If there were to be a Prophet after me, it would be ‘Umar”? Why would it not be Abu Bakr? Then why wasn't Omar the first Khalif?

iceman

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2017, 02:17:52 AM »
As noted in Sunni Muslim historical chronicles, when Imam ‘Ali was just ten years old, the Prophet Muhammad invited his close family to Islam and asked them:

Which of you, then, will help me in this, and be my brother, mine executor and my successor amongst you?’ All remained silent, except for the youthful ʿAlī who spoke up: ‘O Prophet of God, I will be thy helper in this.’ The Prophet then placed his hand on ʿAlī’s neck and said, ‘This is my brother, mine executor and my successor amongst you. Hearken unto him and obey him.’

(Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, tr. A Guilaume, The Life of Muhammad, 118)

Where do Abu Bakr and Omar with Saqifa go here?

Optimus Prime

Re: Recommendation of Abu Bakr and 'Umar for Successorship
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2017, 02:05:06 PM »
As noted in Sunni Muslim historical chronicles, when Imam ‘Ali was just ten years old, the Prophet Muhammad invited his close family to Islam and asked them:

Which of you, then, will help me in this, and be my brother, mine executor and my successor amongst you?’ All remained silent, except for the youthful ʿAlī who spoke up: ‘O Prophet of God, I will be thy helper in this.’ The Prophet then placed his hand on ʿAlī’s neck and said, ‘This is my brother, mine executor and my successor amongst you. Hearken unto him and obey him.’

(Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, tr. A Guilaume, The Life of Muhammad, 118)

Where do Abu Bakr and Omar with Saqifa go here?

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