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Title: Shia scholar: Ali gave Bayah bcuz Abubakr & Umar spread Tawhid & conquered lands
Post by: MuslimK on December 01, 2014, 02:59:16 AM

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

Shia scholar Kashif al Ghita in his book Asl al-Shia was Usuliha p.193-196:
ثم لما رأى ان تخلفه يوجب فتقا في الاسلام لا يرتق، وكسرا لا يجبر، وكل احد يعلم ان عليا ما كان يطلب الخلافه رغبه فى   الامره، ولا حرصا على الملك والغلبه والاثره،  وحديثه مع ابن عباس بذى قار مشهور، وانما يريد تقويه الاسلام  وتوسيع  نطاقه، ومد رواقه، واقامه الحق واماته الباطل، وحين راى ان  المتخلفين، اعنى: الخليفه الاول والثانى بذلا اقصى  الجهد فى نشر كلمه التوحيد وتجهيز الجنود وتوسيع الفتوح، ولم يستاثروا ولم يستبدوا بايع وسالم، واغضى عما يراه  حقا له،  محافظه على الاسلام ان تصدع وحدته، وتتفرق كلمته، ويعود  الناس الى جاهليتهم الاولى. وبقى شيعته منضوين تحت  جناحه ومستنيرين بمصباحه. ولم يكن للشيعه والتشيع  يومئذ مجال للظهور،  لأن الاسلام كان يجري على مناهجه القويمة.

كاشف الغطاء في أصل الشيعة وأصولها ص 193 – 196

He says Ali gave Bayah because he saw Abubakr and Umar spread Tawheed, prepared the armies and expanded the conquests and they were not oppressive.

Can someone give a proper and complete translation please.


Title: Re: Shia scholar: Ali gave Bayah bcuz Abubakr & Umar spread Tawhid & conquered lands
Post by: al-kulayni on December 01, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
Here is thre translation from walid the crazy rafidhi tunsi

now this is the view of hussein al-kashif al-ghita :

he said in brief that ali gave bay'ah to protect islam and when he saw that the first two khalifat did great effort in spreading tawhid and preparing the armies and expanding the muslimland and that they werent selfish and oppressing he gave bay'ah and sought peace and turned a blind eye on what he believedwas his right to protect islam from disunity and schism for fear that people will return to their jahilyyah , and the shia stayed with him and in his shadow and there was no enough reason for shia to appear because islam was working according to its straight manhaj (during khilafat of shaikhain)

http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=10180
Title: Re: Shia scholar: Ali gave Bayah bcuz Abubakr & Umar spread Tawhid & conquered lands
Post by: MuslimK on December 02, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
^ That is better :)

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