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Mythbuster1

Re: Restrict Soccer's posts to one thread
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2022, 04:14:27 PM »
I don't represent Shiites, I speak what I myself perceive and believe.

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Soccer

Re: Restrict Soccer's posts to one thread
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2022, 12:51:37 PM »
Don’t forget verse 33/33 is for wives FIRST  whom Allah swt promises purity!!!

Surah Ahzab switches addresses all over.  I can go into details of this through out Surah or you can observe it yourself.

But the way wives are addressed is similar:

وَاتَّقِينَ اللَّهَ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدًا
إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

The line before God telling us to bless the Prophet is addressed to the wives to fear God. What is the relationship and flow?

It's that they should fear God especially that they are married to a person who God his Angels and believers all bless.

Do you understand and agree?

Well, 33:33, is telling them stay in their houses as in don't leave the Rasool (s) for the Dunya as that was a choice given to them, but fear God instead and to obey God and his Messenger. 

So to encourage them to choose Rasool, it emphasizes he is purified by God thoroughly and is intensely pure.  Having mentioned the Ulul-Arham in 33:6 to be our Awliya in same way Nabi is awla to believers,  as well having mention as wives being our mothers, it wants to clarify all this as well.  While his Ahlulbayt (a) share him in the status of being attributed purity by God and chosen by that to represent his religion, and God attributes purity to who he pleases and is not for humans to do so, it's obvious the wives have to choose to be with Rasool (s) over Dunya and their choice is not a guarantee. Thus while they are our mothers, they are being emphasized to take that role seriously and they will be punished more then others if they fail and rewarded more then others if they pass, mainly, by the fact they are married to Rasool.

Before that it was also emphasized that Rasool and wanting him is linked to wanting God and next world.

So same way, mentioning position of Salawat with respect to them fearing God, mentioning the total purity of the Nabi, is to encourage them to choose him over dunya and the degree they should fear God with respect to him.
By the name of God, the (universally) Compassionate, The (extremely) Compassionate; for the unity of the Togetherness; Is their unity in the journey in the winter and summer. So let them Worship the Lord of this household. The one who fed them from hunger and gave them security from fear.

Soccer

Re: Restrict Soccer's posts to one thread
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2022, 01:00:20 PM »
Some point I've recognized also, is that if, wives are included in Ahlulbayt and Ahlulbayt are encouraged similarly the way wives are, then the next verse, should be plural male (can include wives, but would address Ahlulbayt to recite Quran as well). This was the point by Ibn Hajjar as well, when he mentions, that after the verse it switches back to plural female showing it was revealed particularly for Ahlul-Kisa.

The fact it goes back to plural female shows, the line addressed to Ahlulbayt (a) is addressed to whole different people.

If Ahlulbayt were being encouraged to act similarly to wives, then, again, it would remain plural male as the commands to the wives in the verse after would apply to them as well.

So we can see what is meant by Ahlulbayt is the chosen household concept.  This relates to the wives in that all wives of Imams (a) and their respective families (of normal sense of the word), are to fear God more so then others with respect to the Imams (a).

And wives are to be extra careful in that they are married to one who is totally pure and so they should fear God more so because of that.


« Last Edit: January 09, 2022, 01:03:51 PM by Soccer »
By the name of God, the (universally) Compassionate, The (extremely) Compassionate; for the unity of the Togetherness; Is their unity in the journey in the winter and summer. So let them Worship the Lord of this household. The one who fed them from hunger and gave them security from fear.

Soccer

Re: Restrict Soccer's posts to one thread
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2022, 01:13:09 PM »
Another point is that it doesn't make sense to say God only desires to make them pure. Because for one, they are being encouraged to stay with Rasool (s) as to be with him in the next world as well.  The Rasool (s) as a prize is one of the main encouragement here. Paradise is also something God wants to give them. So it's not just to purify them.

This is why the le makes more sense to be about in general, about the divine book, That God intends by the Quran only to attribute purity to Mohammad (s) and his family (a). That is to say, all talk of purity of Prophets (a) and chosen ones such as Mariam (A) of the past, is not really to attribute purity to those past people, but all intended really to attribute purity to Ahlulbayt (a) and attribute them a through intense purity and perfect purity in the eyes of mankind.

That is to say, it's not attribute purity to others except them. As for as the issue of attributing purity goes, it's only them that God intended all along.

This because the talk of the past is to be a lesson for how Ahlulbayt (a) are to be treated. This is among the reasons why Imam Ali (a) says the Ikram (honors) of Quran is about Ahlulbayt (a).




« Last Edit: January 09, 2022, 01:15:34 PM by Soccer »
By the name of God, the (universally) Compassionate, The (extremely) Compassionate; for the unity of the Togetherness; Is their unity in the journey in the winter and summer. So let them Worship the Lord of this household. The one who fed them from hunger and gave them security from fear.

 

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