You say that but couldn't provide an answer. The man could have easily met `Umar as he was fleeing but that doesn't mean `Umar himself was fleeing.
PS. we have an authentic explicit narration stating he hadn't fled, I'm just discussing this version with you to illustrate that it's not explicit.
How do you know this is AFTER he fled away? Maybe as he was fleeing he met `Umar among the people who weren't fleeing? Are you saying the people who fled did not meet the people who never fled as they were fleeing?
Like I told the other guy, you are like donkey but even more lost. Let me break it down for you again because the truth is shaking you and you are helpless hence why you are the only one trying to refute facts and the others are watching. Let’s take it step by step for your brain. I will be so nice and cut up the hadith to pieces so you can swallow it nicely.
Sahih al-Bukhari 4322
ُ، وَانْهَزَمَ الْمُسْلِمُونَ، وَانْهَزَمْتُ مَعَهُمْ، فَإِذَا بِعُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ فِي النَّاسِ، فَقُلْتُ لَهُ مَا شَأْنُ النَّاسِ قَالَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ
(1)The Muslims (excepting the Prophet (ﷺ) and some of his companions) started fleeing (2)and I too, fled with them. (3)Suddenly I met `Umar bin Al-Khattab amongst the people (4)and I asked him, "What is wrong with the people?" (5) He said, "It is the order of Allah"
1)The muslims ran away except for the Prophet Muhammed s.a.a.w.w. and a few of his companions.
2)The narrator admits running away with the muslims who ran away (He is now with the group of muslims who fled).
3)Among the muslims who he ran away with, he saw omar ibn alkhattab.
4)The funny part he asked omar what is wrong with the people?
5)Omar said it was the order of Allah order of Allah (he lied and Allah’s s.w. curse is on liars)
Oh and let’s not forget what Allah said about those who run away from battle! Al Anfal 16
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
وَمَن يُوَلِّهِمْ يَوْمَئِذٍ دُبُرَهُ إِلَّا مُتَحَرِّفًا لِّقِتَالٍ أَوْ مُتَحَيِّزًا إِلَىٰ فِئَةٍ فَقَدْ بَاءَ بِغَضَبٍ مِّنَ اللَّهِ وَمَأْوَاهُ جَهَنَّمُ ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ
صدق الله العلي العظيم
AL Anfal 16
And whoever turns his back to them on such a day, unless swerving [as a strategy] for war or joining [another] company, has certainly returned with anger [upon him] from Allah , and his refuge is Hell - and wretched is the destination. Oh and since you will cry and say “you insulted me!” it is not an Insult, you are one of the group of people who Allah s.w. talks about in Al Araf 179
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
بِهَا وَلَهُمْ آذَانٌ لَا يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَا ۚ أُولَئِكَ كَالْأَنْعَامِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّ ۚ أُولَئِكَ هُمُ الْغَافِلُونَ
صدق الله العلي العظيم
Oh and P.S. this is an authentic hadith which clearly states that he ran. Now you can make up your own hadith like you did about Abu Bakr consulting with Imam Ali a.s. about the leadership of Omar and LIE, but it is okay I will research what you say, get the original hadith and post it like I did to show your lies. I already told you once, now this is twice, I am a shia not a sunni or wahabi who you can lie to like sheep.
Let me help you searching for that hadith:
Musnad Imam Ahmad (volume 23 page 274 Hadith #14731, sahih hadith):
حديث مرفوع حَدَّثَنَا يَعْقُوبُ , حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي , عَنِ ابْنِ إِسْحَاقَ , عَنْ عَاصِمِ بْنِ عُمَرَ بْنِ قَتَادَةَ , عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ جَابِرٍ , عَنْ جَابِرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ فَانْطَلَقَ النَّاسُ إِلَّا أَنَّ مَعَ رَسُولِ اللهِ صَلَّىاللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ رَهْطًا مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِينَ وَالْأَنْصَارِ، وَأَهْلِ بَيْتِهِغَيْرَ كَثِيرٍ، ثَبَتَ مَعَهُ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرُ، وَمِنْ أَهْلِ بَيْتِهِ، عَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍ، وَالْعَبَّاسُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْمُطَّلِبِ، وَابْنُهُ الْفَضْلُ بْنُ عَبَّاسٍ، وَأَبُو سُفْيَانَ بْنُ الْحَارِثِ، وَرَبِيعَةُبْنُ الْحَارِثِ، وَأَيْمَنُ بْنُ عُبَيْدٍ وَهُوَ ابْنُ أُمِّ أَيْمَنَ، وَأُسَامَةُبْنُ زَيْدٍ، قَالَ: وَرَجُلٌ مِنْ هَوَازِنَ عَلَى جَمَلٍ لَهُ أَحْمَرَ فِي يَدِهِرَايَةٌ لَهُ سَوْدَاءُ فِي رَأْسِ رُمْحٍ طَوِيلٍ لَهُ أَمَامَ النَّاسِ، وَهَوَازِنُخَلْفَهُ
Ya’qoub narrated from his Father from Ibn Ishaq from ‘Assim ibn ‘Umar bin Qatada from ‘Abdul-Rahman ibn Jabir from Jabir ibn ‘Abdullah: The people retreated but the Prophet SAWS was accompanied by a group from the Mouhajirun and the Ansar and his Ahlul-Bayt.
Those who held their ground and stayed with him were Abu Bakr and ‘Umar and from his Ahlul-Bayt ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib and Al-‘Abbas bin ‘Abdul-Mutallib and his son Al-Fadl and Abu Suffiyan bin al-Harith and Raba’iyah bin Al-Harith and Ayman bin ‘Ubeid and he is ibn Umm-Ayman and Usamah ibn Zaid, he said: and a Man from Hawzan (until the end of the narration).
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