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Title: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 14, 2019, 11:53:44 PM
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As many of you might be aware, our brothers from the Sunni Defense have released a devastating (for the Rafida) documentary (super successful with over 17k views as we are speaking!) exposing Rafidism to the max, proving to every Muslim (including many fooled ones) that the Khomeinist type of Shias and the Shirazis are two sides of the same coin, their differences are irrelevant to us as Muslims, what is relevant is that their kufr, shirk and hatred for the Sahaba (their mass-takfir on them) is a shared belief among both camps, the only difference is that each camp shares a different methodology as in HOW to convey their filthy Rafidi beliefs (Khomeinists employ more taqiyyah in order to lure innocent and gullible Sunnis into their ranks whereas Shirazis are blunt, and to be honest, the Shirazis are in a way a blessing for this Ummah, as they expose Rafidi filth in their stupidity, the same filth Khomeinists try to hide or at least dilute as they know that no sane Muslim would except raw pagan Rafidism).

If you haven't watched it, do so and don't miss a second:

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Initially one could tell that the Rafida wanted to ignore it, but the pressure got to them, the popularity of the documentary forced the Khomeinists of the cursed city of Shrik, Majoosiyyah and other Zandaqat which is Qom to send their deluded minions to do the job, they had one job but failed, so bad that their own people criticized them before we even got the chance to do so. Imagine that!

In the initial TSD documentary, a Neo-Safawi to-be Tire-head named Muzaffer Hyder (who calls for the death of Saudis and accuses every Sunni critic of Rafidism of being a Daeshi/Saudi/Zionist pawn, typical Rafidi Khomeinists rhetoric, similar to actual Zionists who try to silence their opponents with the Anti-Semitism accusation) who is a terrorist (Hizbullat, IRGC) sympathizer and his "Islamic Pulse" team were quoted many times (excerpts from one of their typical "unity" farce videos full of lies and deception) so he decided to come back with a 30 min clip full of blunders and mistakes (not to mention that he ignored like 90% of the evidences of the Sunni Defense documentary, even shamefully bluring the faces of all those NON-SHIRAZI Ayatullats and Shia priests who curse just like Shirazi, just a bit more in seclusion style, idiots did not think of the internet, social media etc.).

This Muzaffer Hyder who is a textbook Khomeinist type of a Rafidi, an absolutely cringy fanboy of the Khamenai (LA), Khomeini (LA) and the Khomeinist revolution has been apparently studying for half a decade in Qom (that he praises for its good Arabic LOL) and has had over 50 teachers, yet he made shocking blunders in a professionally edited video, blunders that will haunt him till Qiyamah!

This evil zindeeq (who calls the the Russian criminal Putin/Russia as his Orthodox brothers!) did such a bad and embarrassing job that even Khomeinist type of Shias on Shiatchat rebuked him for it! Imagine how bad it is! Imagine his own people basically testifying that THE SUNNI DEFENSE has merely exposed what Shia scholars say behind curtains anyway!

Here some comments on Sh!tchat about this clown Muzaffer Hyder and his "Islamic" (Neo-Safawi) Pulse:

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1744)

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(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1752)

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1754)

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1756)

All of their Arabic speakers confirm that their kafir Khomeini indeed considered the mother of the Believers Aisha and other Sahaba (who acc to Sahih narrations did not intend to fight Ali, neither did Ali intend to fight them, it was a fitnah!) as filthier than pigs! Exposing the twistings of the spin doctor called Muzaffer Hyder!
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 12:17:07 AM
Our brother Bu Noor Al-Bahraini rubbed a turbah sized amount of salt in their wounds  ;D

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1760)

Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 12:37:39 AM
Check this deluded Rafidi (one of their top guns), he knows very well that (as usual) one of their Hawzat (cesspools of shirk and khurafat) students (Muzaffer) - who is studying for over half a decade now - is nothing but a failure in Arabic, but to maintain some damage limitation he assures the dumb Shias (who have probably never seen their crap Hawzat) that it's actually not that bad (LOL) at their Hawzat.

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1762)

Well, let's see what Mullah Allatyari says, the zindeeq who studied in Qom AND Najaf:

(Notice how this vile Sabaite Majoosi son of Ghengis Khan literally advises others to whisper and pray to his buried Persian-womanish drawn deities, like a Sabaite Yahoodi)

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(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1770)




And here you have "Ayatollah" khamenai confessing that Sunnis are way superior in Arabic and Tajweed than Shia SCHOLARS in their top religious institutes (Hawzat):

https://shiascans.com/2017/05/17/from-the-ayatollahs-mouth-sunnis-put-shias-to-shame-when-it-comes-to-the-quran/

The Rafida are a humiliated nation, in dunya and akhira. Allah bless Ibn Taymiyyah who had so much insight and described them like that.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 01:06:11 AM
This Rafidi here admits what all of us know, the Shirazis have come with nothing new, it's just raw pagan Rafidism minus extreme forms of Taqiyyah.

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1773)

He even correctly states that Iran has chosen to abuse Taqiyyah as it has a large Sunni minority (not to forget it's a loner in a Sunni Muslim world). What this idiot doesn't understand is that arguably Iran's extreme form of Taqiyyah has worked (at least before Iran and Hizbul-Satan exposed themselves completely, especially in the Arab world by siding with Bashar) as it managed to fool many Sunnis, making many gullible and simple minded Sunnis having a good opinion of Iran and Shias in general (whereas Shirazi type of da'wa might work on some freaks of nature, most Sunnis however will hate Rafidism even more after witnessing their rhetoric).

 It's all politics at the end of the day, the Rafida are still Rafida, may Allah increase the infighting between them.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 01:23:13 AM
^The same Rafidi is so brainwashed that he thinks Sunnis believe that the killer of Umar (ra) is a kafir simply for killing Umar! The simpleton even thinks that's a "Wahabi" thing, not realizing that all Sunnis hate the killers of the 3 rightly guided caliphs.

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1775)

We are not Umar worshippers, if a believer killed Umar than that would have been a sin, not kufr, as neither Umar nor Ali are Prophets or infallible Imams or any other Rafidi nonsense. Umar himself enquired about his killers and none other than a Hashimi (Abdullah ibn Abbas) informed him that his killer was a Persian kafir (Shia saint). Desperate Rafidis cite the difference of opinion about the Din of Abu Lu'lu'ah (some say Majoosi, some say Christian etc.) completely missing the crux of the matter namely that he was certainly a kafir. As for Ibn Muljim (may Allah curse him), he was a Khariji and Ali is known to have abstained from takfir on the kharijis (although some Salaf did takfir on them).

All three caliphs (after Abu Bakr) were asassinated (Umar while leading Salah, Uthman while reading the Qur'an and Ali while praying Salah) either by rebels, kafirs or even kuffar.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 01:38:53 AM
This one is hilarious, sometimes you can't but feel sorry for Rafidi laymen.

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1777)

They don't realize that the reason the useless Sistani doesn't lead a single Salah, nor give a khutbah (despite living for decades in an Arabic speaking city and over a decade under Shia rule and protection) is because his Arabic is crap! We challenge the Rafida to prove otherwise:

https://twitter.com/AntiMajose/status/1102621113601921025

No Rafidi would have any chance against a learned Sunni who is specialized in Shi'ism, let alone against Farid (this is why the likes of Hassan Al Qadri, Shia Park Runner, Naqi, Taqvi and other vis all run away from a debate).

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1779)
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 02:54:19 AM
The following Rafidi is regarded as the (or one of the) most knowledgable Rafidi on Shia chat. Look what a shallow minded simpleton he is and how khabeeth (wretched he) is:

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(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1785)

Let's comment on all his main points:

1. The typical Rafidi trick is to accuse every Sunni opponent as a "Takfiri-Wahhabi-Salafi-Nasibi (and recently Daeshi), we have witnessed Sufis being called Wahhabis by Rawafid! It's a lame accusations that nobody buys anymore.

2. Petro-Dollars is another favourite of these simpletons. They believe in all the stereotypes, like how all mosques in the west and in the Arab world are funded by Saudi lol ANTI-MAJOS never got a single cent from the Saudis, nor did the Sunni Defense, as a matter of fact we (at ANTI-MAJOS) despise the useless Saudi regime for their transgressions against the Ummah AND their leniency towards the Rawafid (we covered how they give all sorts of freedom to Rafida mushrikeen, including letting them run massive self-flagellation/Hussainiyyat temples inside Madina!

--> https://twitter.com/AntiMajose/status/1120143094673039366
--> https://twitter.com/AntiMajose/status/1120136387481698304

3. "Petty cultural practices" like mud-bathing, tomb crawling and other pagan nonsense in the name of Ahul Bayt!

4."Disguising themselves" That's the audacity of the Rafida, who are they to determine who is a Sunni and who is not? The alleged majority (Ash'ari school) makes one a "real" Sunni? What happened about majority not being a determiner,huh? Besides, TSD had people from all backrounds, including Ash'ari (or inclined ones) on their shows, all refuting Rafidism and defending Ahlul-Sunnah!

5. " A response to them would be a video showcasing how as a matter of fact there are many Ahl al-Sunnah schools of thought who are very much against the Takfiri/Salafi/Wahhabi mentality, both in the East and as well as in the West - including very reputable and credible Sunni scholars. This should be highlighted very much so in polemics."

This is not new, Rafida have always used the biggest munafiqs, sell-outs and zindeeqs and presented them as "true and great Sunnis". We are well aware of this method, and now how to respond, for every zindeeq or sell-out or let's even say genuine non-Salafi scholar they quote, we will bring 12 non-Salafi scholars from the past and today who strongly oppose Rafidism and have written entire books against their heretical sect.

6. From the horse's mouth. Every learned person is aware that Yasser al-Khabeeth and Shirazis are clowns and their lectures and books filled with fabrications and weak reports from Sunni books.

7. The liar states that ritual cursings have died out after the Safavids! Nothing could be further from the truth, as cursing and takfir (worse than cursing) of the Sahaba is an essential part of Shi'ism, hence it was easy even for TSD to find more than a dozen of Non-Shirazi scholars who were busy cursing left, right and center.

8. He says that "Salafis live in the past" like as if quoting scholars of the past doesn't represent their sect! The reality is that Muslims can easily quote the likes of al-Mufid who narrated a consensus (!) among the Rafidis that whoever fought Ali (ra) is a kafir. Takfir and hatred for the Sahaba is deeply grounded in their sect and any official state policy is nothing but a tool to fool gullible Sunnis around the world. Iran's "official" stance means nothing let alone the asssumptions that Khomeini (la)  might have changed his opinion! Assumptions mean nothing, and the same person (ibn al-Hussain) admitted that Khomeini quote (the wive of the Prophet being najis, filthier than a dog etc.) is nothing but classical Shia belief!

9. As for Palestine: Iran has done not more than the treacherous Saudis. In fact Saudi has pumped more money and help to Palestine than Iran has, Iran just shouts louder and provides the corrupt Hamas with useless rockets. When it comes to actually fighting, then Iran is only good at fighting and killing Sunnis, from Iraq (Iranian backed Shia militias) to Syria. In the words of a wise and national hero in Palestine who has always warned against Iran and the Rafida:

"It is not possible for al-Quds to be freed from the Zionist occupation at the hand of those who curse its conqueror (Umar)..." - Shaykh Raed Salah al-Falastini

10. This "Talib E Ilm" then makes blanket statements about Salafis, how they do "taqiyyah" when living in the west. He's such an simpleton, probably thinking that fiqh books of Sunnis are like infallible text to them, or that fringe opinions by Daesh and their likes are majority opinions. It is well known that most Salafi scholars do not believe that the blood and wealth of every kafir is halal to be shed, that's not taqiyyah but a legit and correct fiqhi stance. All big Salafi scholars emphazise that everyone living in the west has a contract with the country he is living in i.e. one must abide by the law. Who will this Rafidi quote to refute that? Daesh "scholars"?!?! Also the issue of befriending non-Muslims is more nuanced than many Muslims think, at least this alleged "Talib E Ilm" could have done more research and find out that there are it is not an absolute rule, in fact the scholars stipulate that even loving people of kufr is natural in certain cases (like ones mother if she's a kafira etc.). Taking a non-Muslim as a friend and Wali is different, but these Rafida know nothing, they are almost as shallow as some extreme elements amongst the Salafis.

In either case, no Muslim would hide his belief in order to lure Rafidis into their ranks, but this is exactly what the Khomeinist type of Rafidis do and what TSD exposed well, this video (also used by TSD) here proves it well, as it illustrates that Rafidi Taqiyyah of the Khomeinist type is to literally hide ones true beliefs in order to LURE (ignorant and gullible Sunnis) into their ranks:


Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 03:11:09 AM
I will leave the part about Sunnis in Iran for the Iranian Sunni brothers to comment on, as for his shallow understanding of contracts and baseless accusations:

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1787)

This jahil has probably read a few books on the fiqh of dhimmis, 'ahd etc. and thinks he knows everything! We don't follow infallible Imams (there has never been such a thing anyway), a scholar's fatwa can be accepted or be rejected, the vast majority of Salafi/Sunni scholars do not do taqiyyah, heck those hardcore Jihadis openly state in their fatwas that there is no 'ahd between us and the kafirs in the west, however, this is not the stance of major Salafi scholar, only a fool would argue like that. The reality is that whoever enters western lands is bound to their laws, that's his 'ahd between him and the country he resides in, the fatawa of scholars are clear on this matter, there is no taqiyyah, it's simple a legit and majority Sunni-Salafi position, yet this khabeeth makes it seems as if every Salafi is a Daeshi, the idiot even accuses Muhammad Hijab of such a position, saying that Muhammad Hijab believes that every random kafir can be killed (technicaly speaking)!

La'natullahi on the Rafida, they are deprived of 'aql and naql, even their top scholars and "Talib E Elms"!

PS: His whole analogy is flawed: From a Sunni point of view, no Sunni is allowed to deny that slavery was practiced by the Prophet (saws) and the Sahaba (ra), however, in Rafidism one can simply LIE and completely deny that there is such a thing as cursing the Sahaba, all in order to lure the opponent in ones rank, this is what Khomeini explained and this is the official wretched policy of Iran (la).
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 03:36:47 AM
Here the Rafidis tries to convince everyone that Rafidi taqiyyah is basically the same as Sunni taqiyyah, it's just taqiyyah is more discussed in Shia circles due to the history of Rafidis i.e. being humiliated for the zanadiqah they are. Other jahils quoted al-Razi and what not...

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1789)

yet all of them fail to understand that no respected Sunni authority every stated that one can literally lie about ones blief (to non-Muslims or Ahlul bid'ah) in order to lure the opposition to ones camp! This is a pure Rafidi belief, this is what Khomeini stated and what TSD beautifully exposed:

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1791)
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Rationalist on May 15, 2019, 03:57:15 AM
Excellent post. I knew that Khomeini's quote wasn't misquoted. I hope a counter video is made to expose IP. His sugar coating needs to be challenged.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 15, 2019, 03:59:24 AM
Excellent post. I knew that Khomeini's quote wasn't misquoted. I hope a counter video is made to expose IP. His sugar coating needs to be challenged.

Are you on sh!tchat? Post our response to these people, and yes, a response is on its way, and it will be even more devastating for the Rafida than the intitial documentary, bi'ithnillah.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Ibn Taymiyya on May 15, 2019, 12:21:56 PM
Are you on sh!tchat? Post our response to these people, and yes, a response is on its way, and it will be even more devastating for the Rafida than the intitial documentary, bi'ithnillah.
jazakallaha khyaran, was waiting for this desperatly
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Rationalist on May 15, 2019, 03:05:10 PM
Are you on sh!tchat? Post our response to these people, and yes, a response is on its way, and it will be even more devastating for the Rafida than the intitial documentary, bi'ithnillah.

They banned me in 2010. The reason was not because I broke the rules on the site, but because what I said outside Shiachat.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 16, 2019, 02:48:16 PM
They are reading and following this forum and have commented on our posts here.

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1797)

Here the comments of that Jahil Ibn al-Hussain the "Talib E Ilm" (whatever that means, I guess, Rafidi/Hawza lingo).

(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/how-tsd-documentary-exposed-the-rafida!-rafida-blaming-rafida!/?action=dlattach;attach=1799)

This is what happens when you destroy these mushrikeen and their lies, they are not into "polemics" they say, they just like to throw around accusations (reminds one of their retarded Neo-Safawi Khomeinist buddy Muzaffer who simple accuses every Sunni who happens to detest his favourite regime and sect as a Wahabi-Zionist-Takfiri etc.), like accusing M Hijab to be upon the manhaj of Daesh/Al-Qaeda (is just Hijab is doing "Taqiyyah", says a Rafidi   ;D).

What's their hujjah/evidence? Books of fiqh on specific matters! Look what he says:

Look at the conditions he put, as if they are wahyi (revelation) or as if Ibn Tamiyyah (rh) is an infallible Imam. So my Muslim brothers who live in the west have no 'ahd with kuffar because the 'ahd wasn't done by "a Wali Amr and the Imam of the Muslims on behalf of the Muslim". This statement alone proves what a jahil this person is, as even the Sahaba were told by the Prophet (saws) that there will be times were one might have no Imam (which completely destroys Rafidism/Imamah), particularly the ahadith of Hudhayfa Ibn Al-Yaman), so now what?

Salafi/Sunni scholars are not hypocrites like Khomeinists (who literally state you can hide ANY Shia belief that a Sunni may dislike just in order to lure him into your sect!), they openly state WHY in our complicated modern world with nation states, a muslim will have an 'ahd (when entering that country, holding papers etc.) with the country he resides in. Anyone doubting our words can read detailed fatawa on these issues that don't include any form of taqiyyah, rather new ijtihad (it's a matter of fiqh after all) considering all dynamics of the new world we are living in. So emotional nonsense like this:

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"you have to follow the law of the land" (:hahaha:) are said due to maslaha,

By the Rafidi is good for him, as he's the one eyed among the blind Rafidis, so he can make them feel good. A student of knowledge knows that this has nothing to do with maslaha.

On the other hand, the matter of cursing, despising (and other filthy Raifdi rituals that these mushrikeen brush away by referring to them as "traditional/cultural" practices such as tomb crawling, mud bathing and many other pagan practices that these devilish Rawafid, Shirazis and Non-Shirazis have attributed to Islam/Ahlul-Bayt/Imam Hussain) major Sahaba are not simple matters of fiqh, this is 'Aqeedah, theology, and 'Aqeedah doesn't change, hence it was so easy for TSD to find a dozen and more of WTF (Wilayatul-Faqih i.e. Non-Shirazi) Shia Rabbis and singers cursing and slandering the Sahaba, including mass-takfir (Behjat, repeating normatice Rafidi beliefs such as all Sahaba except a few being murtadds).

This zindeeq is accusing US of living in the past, yet it is HIM and his sect that does exactly that, he has no prove for Khomeini having changed his opinion (referring to the wife of the Prophet as a dog and pig!), yet whished Muzaffer would had argued like that instead (the khabeeth knows that the weak minded - especially dumb Rafidis/Khomeinists would more likely fall for it), this is because he KNOWS that these matters are matter of Aqeedah, Khomeini (la) came with nothing new, it's the ijma' (consensus) stated by their scholars (based on lies they have attributed to the Ahlul Bayt) that whoever fought Ali (as if Ali is God or a Prophet, well he's both and more to them, practically speaking) is an kafir nasisbi, especially Abu Bakr, Umar and the people of Jamal and Siffin etc.!

As for their madhab changing stances on such crucial matters (at least from the dhahir, like Khomeinists), then this is the history of their madhab from they one, it is a religion from other than Allah so it's gradually changing (like one of their scholars said, that what was considered as Ghuluww in the past among the Rawafid is now considered the norm!):


http://realtashayyu.blogspot.com/2012/01/status-of-non-shias.html


The Rafida are the real Takfiris, they have beat the worst khawarij in takfiri (who spared most the major Ansar and Muhajirs from takfir), yet these hypocrites and their Majoosi Iran have the audacity going around and labelling others as takfiris! What an Upside Down World we live in, absolutely surreal!

As for Daesh:

Also they make it sound like as if Da'esh scholars had some different Fiqh revealed to them from the heavens. Da'esh scholars and their Fiqh is primarily based on classical opinions in Sunni Fiqh, derived from the same traditions and verses of the Qur'an. It would be absurd (I.e. taqiyyah) for a Sunni to say that Da'esh ijtihad is not valid, justified and hujjah

Yes, many of their practices are based on the Qur'an too, like amputating limbs of certain criminals, even crucifying them:

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 Heck, when it comes to burning ones opponent, they are actually pretty much upon the methodology of Ali (ra) was was very fond on burning opponents, he even encouraged those "evil Sahaba" like the "bloodthirsty" Abu Bakr and Khalid (ra) to burn others:

https://shiascans.com/2017/04/09/ali-advised-abu-bakr-and-khalid-to-kill-homosexuals-with-fire/

https://shiascans.com/2017/04/08/ali-punished-by-burning/

Of course not everything that Daesh (or even Rafidis) do in the name of Islam is wrong, we are not emotional wrecks, following our hawa like accursed modernist zanaadiqah, however, Daesh has been caught more than once misusing Islamic text (like Rafida), exaggerating in their practices (like Rafida), so it's not absurd to say that Daesh ijtihad is absurd or rejected, the problem lies in the mindset of a Rafidi. He believes in the myth of "infallible Imams" (yet he is guided by fallible Iranian Ayatullats who can't get a fatihah right), so he assumes we somehow must accept the Ijtihad of group X because it's based on a certain ijtihad of Sunni Madhab Y. Newsflash: We even reject statements or actions of Sahaba, like Ibn Abbas rejected Ali's burning of Sabaites and Ali rejecting (and rebuking) Ibn Abbas for allowing Mut'ah (under extreme circumstances, not Rafidi Mut'ah which is a sex marathon with all sorts of alleged rewards). So if we can rejects fatawa/itjihad of Sahaba, what about people who followed them? There is no ma'soom in matters of the religion except the Rasool (saws), period.


Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 16, 2019, 03:04:49 PM
The Rafidi says:

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I could care less what Majlisi or Ne'matullah Jazairi had to say about the Sunnis - it is very clear their living contexts and as well as Akhbari methodology heavily influenced their opinions and comments on this subject.


Previously he said:
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If you notice, the Salafis live foremost in history. Majority of their quotes from influential Shia scholars go back to what scholars had said centuries ago - particularly the Safavid era (like what Majlisi says, or what Karaki says or Ne'matullah Jaza'iri said, or what Mufid said, or what Saduq said and so on), or at the very earliest they rely on material from the middle of the last century (like this quote from Imam Khomeini). But, because they are engaged in propaganda, they strip these quotes and present them, and the audience has no idea about the different notions that dominated the world at those times or what were the scholarly backgrounds of these scholars (for example if you understand the era and personalities of Majlisi, Ne'matullah Jaza'iri or Karaki you will realize that what they were saying was not absurd at all for their times and the type of interpretation they were doing from the religious texts). You can very easily do the same with their scholarship if the game is being played dirty. This is similar to Islamophobes taking out laws and narrations that talk about slavery and present them - they have to resort to works written centuries ago generally to argue their case. This is polemics for you.


This is inaccurate and TSD documentary alone disproves his claims. For every Safawi "scholar" we can bring 5 living scholars of them, including non-Shirazis who openly do takfir and curse the Sahaba just as the Safawi "scholars" did, so who is living in the past? Why isn't he blaming his own cursed "scholars" of today?

"They are living in the past" is such a pathetic and almost modernist argument, after all, the likes of Majlisi (who is revered among ALL their scholars) didn't make anything up, they weren't even pure Akhbaris, people at their times could have also accused them of living in the past, the reality is, the root of all the evil, which is Rafidism, IS evil, the plethora of narrations of cursing and takfir makes even the "unity aspiring" Ayatullat slip and curse the Sahaba whilst being recorded on tape!

The Rafidi "scholars" during the Safavid time just expressed more openly what was in Shia book for centuries anyway, what their Salaf believed in anyway, a plethora of narrations, mass-takfir against anyone who happened to be in the opposing camp, other than the camp of Ali (reality: Ali never accused his brothers who fought him of kufr, he was well aware it was a fitna!)

http://www.revivingalislam.com/2012/01/how-evil-are-those-who-fought-ali.html

^As you can see, mass-takfir is part and parcel of their religion, and we are not obsessed with their crazy and pagan religion, it is their religion that for centuries is breeding on polemics (it's says enough that most Shia da'wa activities are aimed at gullible and ignorant Sunnis not non-Muslims!), it is their regime that has lunched tons of satellite channels in various languages targetting our beliefs! If it wasn't for that, we would ignore them as we mostly ignore Ibadhis, Zaydis or even Qadyanis! They have opened the gates of hell for themselves and have to pay the consequences, no wailing will help this time.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on May 16, 2019, 07:35:42 PM
The Rafidi says:


Previously he said:

This is inaccurate and TSD documentary alone disproves his claims. For every Safawi "scholar" we can bring 5 living scholars of them, including non-Shirazis who openly do takfir and curse the Sahaba just as the Safawi "scholars" did, so who is living in the past? Why isn't he blaming his own cursed "scholars" of today?

"They are living in the past" is such a pathetic and almost modernist argument, after all, the likes of Majlisi (who is revered among ALL their scholars) didn't make anything up, they weren't even pure Akhbaris, people at their times could have also accused them of living in the past, the reality is, the root of all the evil, which is Rafidism, IS evil, the plethora of narrations of cursing and takfir makes even the "unity aspiring" Ayatullat slip and curse the Sahaba whilst being recorded on tape!

The Rafidi "scholars" during the Safavid time just expressed more openly what was in Shia book for centuries anyway, what their Salaf believed in anyway, a plethora of narrations, mass-takfir against anyone who happened to be in the opposing camp, other than the camp of Ali (reality: Ali never accused his brothers who fought him of kufr, he was well aware it was a fitna!)

http://www.revivingalislam.com/2012/01/how-evil-are-those-who-fought-ali.html

^As you can see, mass-takfir is part and parcel of their religion, and we are not obsessed with their crazy and pagan religion, it is their religion that for centuries is breeding on polemics (it's says enough that most Shia da'wa activities are aimed at gullible and ignorant Sunnis not non-Muslims!), it is their regime that has lunched tons of satellite channels in various languages targetting our beliefs! If it wasn't for that, we would ignore them as we mostly ignore Ibadhis, Zaydis or even Qadyanis! They have opened the gates of hell for themselves and have to pay the consequences, no wailing will help this time.

You're emotionally getting yourself twisted up. It's like talking to yourself or your own kind and want an applause from your own kind and want to pat yourself on your own back.

"^As you can see, mass-takfir is part and parcel of their religion,"

What are you on about, mass takfir. Those who accuse Shias of takfir, isn't that mass takfir.

"Ali never accused his brothers who fought him of kufr, he was well aware it was a fitna!"

And why don't you do it. They took up arms and fought your 4th rightly guided Caliph and Ulul Amre of the time. At least accuse them of fitna and being the cause of it. Raising arms, fighting and killing and spilling blood is worse than verbal abuse or takfir. Open your eyes man and see clearly. Those who opposed any of the first three are considered what by you?
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 17, 2019, 12:26:54 AM

What are you on about, mass takfir. Those who accuse Shias of takfir, isn't that mass takfir.

What I am on about? Your religion teaches that all Sahaba except 3 (some narrations are slightly more generous) apostated!

Renowned Shia scholar `Ali al-Namazi a-Shahroudi says in his book "Mustadrakat `Ilm-ul-Rijal" 1/67:

We conclude from the big quantity of [Shia]narrations declaring that all companions are apostates except three or four, that the general rule for every companion who remained alive after the Prophet (saw) and did not become a martyr in his time, is that they are apostates for placing the non-chosen leader (means Abu Bakr) in authority over the chosen leader (means `Ali), or impious sinners for their short comings when it came to supporting him (means `Ali), thus it is not possible to assume the reliability of any of them except through a specific divine text.

^This disgusting mass-takfir belief is based on a plethora of Shia narrations that declare the Sahaba as kuffar, then you wonder why you, a bunch of tomb crawling and Imam invoking deviants are called kuffar?! You deserve that and much more!

“The people all became apostates after the Prophet’s death except for three.” When asked who they were, he replied, “al-Miqdad ibn al-Aswad, Abu Dharr, and Salman...” (Rijal al-Kashshi pp12-13)”.

This is mass takfir of the vast majority of the Sahaba! This is why the scholars state that the Rawafilth (Rawafid i.e. your kind) are worse and more extreme in takfir than the Khawarij! As for takfir on the Shia:

Many Shias are Muslims. Zaydi Shias are Muslims, early (political) Shias in the time (many of them narrators in Bukhari) were Muslim, however, Ismailis, Twelvers and every other extreme sect that holds kufri beliefs is out of the fold of Islam.


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"Ali never accused his brothers who fought him of kufr, he was well aware it was a fitna!"

And why don't you do it. They took up arms and fought your 4th rightly guided Caliph and Ulul Amre of the time. At least accuse them of fitna and being the cause of it. Raising arms, fighting and killing and spilling blood is worse than verbal abuse or takfir. Open your eyes man and see clearly. Those who opposed any of the first three are considered what by you?

That's the problem with you Rafida, you have been brainwashed, fallen for a narrative and build principles based on that false narrative and premise. Sahih narrations do not prove that people simply took up arms against Ali, yes certain groups did, like the Khawarij (and even on them Ali didn't make Takfir), other Sahaba were involved in a Fitnah, Ali was on the truth, Ali never accused them of kufr and even cursed their killers (like how Ali cursed the killer of al-Zubayr), end of the story. It is your backwarded takfir sect that treats Ali like a god and declares everyone a kafir who happened to had an issue with him! Those who opposed any of the three are not by necessity kafirs to us. Sa'd ibn Ubadah didn't give bay'ah to Abu Bakr, doesn't make him a kafir! We are not emotional Imam worshippers like you.


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Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Ebn Hussein on May 17, 2019, 02:16:06 AM
This "Ibn al-Hussain" and his kind are deluded and obviously on some hardcore damage limitation/control trip.

Firstly, there is no obsession with regard to the refutation of Rafidi Shi'ism, that's a simplistic observation from their part, subjective and far from the truth and the reason for such a false judgement is because they see people/projects like the Sunni Defence as only that i.e. a project targetting Shi'ism. They don't realise that it's simply a matter of dividing work, it's fardh kifayah for the Ummah to defend the beliefs of Ahlul-Sunnah wa Al-Jama'ah and refute all sorts of heretics like the Rafidah. So you will have a group refuting modernist and liberal shubuhat and then a group that is specialised in refuting Qadyani or Rafidi shubuhat.

The mere existence of these brothers/projects is no proof of them being obsessed, it is their religious duty (if they are capable of doing what others can't) to work in these fields, thus I myself, as an Ex-Shia have worked in several languages refuting and exposing the Rafidi religion, I see it as a duty, people don't know my personal life, I even keep all the Rafidi stuff away from my family as much as I can, but that's the problem of a world where people judge others based on social media and other online platforms. Fighting the people of Bid'ah with the pen is of the greatest of Jihad, never will and should we stop, and the latest TSD documentary has certainly hit a nerve, otherwise trust me, they wouldn't care.

I wanted to comment on some lame claims on this thread that are from Shiachat:

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If you notice, the Salafis live foremost in history. Majority of their quotes from influential Shia scholars go back to what scholars had said centuries ago - particularly the Safavid era (like what Majlisi says, or what Karaki says or Ne'matullah Jaza'iri said, or what Mufid said, or what Saduq said and so on), or at the very earliest they rely on material from the middle of the last century (like this quote from Imam Khomeini). But, because they are engaged in propaganda, they strip these quotes and present them, and the audience has no idea about the different notions that dominated the world at those times or what were the scholarly backgrounds of these scholars (for example if you understand the era and personalities of Majlisi, Ne'matullah Jaza'iri or Karaki you will realize that what they were saying was not absurd at all for their times and the type of interpretation they were doing from the religious texts). You can very easily do the same with their scholarship if the game is being played dirty. This is similar to Islamophobes taking out laws and narrations that talk about slavery and present them - they have to resort to works written centuries ago generally to argue their case. This is polemics for you.


This one's my favourite, that's some next level apologetics. First of all, Non-Salafi scholars in the past and present have written extensively in refutation of the Rafidah, Ash'ari Shafi'is and Hanafi Maturidis, it's an old Shia trick to present their modern day opponents or Shia opposition as some Salafi-Wahabi thing (or Ibn Taymiyyah one). Secondly, as stated earlier in this thread:

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This is inaccurate and TSD documentary alone disproves his claims. For every Safawi "scholar" we can bring 5 living scholars of them, including non-Shirazis who openly do takfir and curse the Sahaba just as the Safawi "scholars" did, so who is living in the past? Why isn't he blaming his own cursed "scholars" of today?

So it has nothing to do with living in the past, for Rafidi Shi'ism is based on the takfir on the Sahaba and their cursing, that hasn't changed a bit and this is why it is so easy to prove, not just by providing decade old quotes, but actually footage of their jurists doing exactly what their book carry of kufr and takfir (thus, the analogy with Islamophobes and them quoting old books is nonsensical).

As for the filthiest of filth, the likes of Majlisi and N. Al-Jaza'iri (Safavid palace/court scholars)...

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(for example if you understand the era and personalities of Majlisi, Ne'matullah Jaza'iri or Karaki you will realize that what they were saying was not absurd at all for their times and the type of interpretation they were doing from the religious texts).

I agree in a sense, for the first time in history the Rafidah (not just moderate Shias or half-baked Rafifah like the early Buyids) during the Safavid were able to live and express Imamism thoroughly, with no fear and compromise, no more Taqiyyah, all years of (rightfully) being humiliated for their Zandaqah were over, things that were not discussed in open in the past (or at best metioned vaguely like replacing Sahaba names with "1, 2, 3.." were now propagated on state level, and all of that is of course not "absurd", it's perfectly reasonable if you contextualise things. So the following Safawi kufr makes sense to the Rafidah:

- N. Al-Jaza'iri (revered Safawi scholar by the Twelvers) believing in the distortion of the Qur'an (based on mass-transmitted narrations in Shia books and not some flimsy narrations of shadh readings, mansukhat and what not that Shia polemicists love to quote from Sunni books in order to try to turn the table) and making mass takfir on Sahaba and Sunnis.

- Majlisi (revered Safawi scholar by the Twelvers) the kafir not just believing in the distortion of the Qur'an but for the first time in Shia Imami history making it clear that logic itself dictates that the Qur’an has been distorted:

https://shiascans.com/2017/05/20/shaykh-al-islam-of-shiism-mulla-majlisi-on-the-distortion-tahrif-of-the-quran-collection/

...after all it was compiled and transmitted by apostate Sahaba! He was simply being consistent with the Shia narrative and as a reward, they built him a big golden shrine and he even received the Shia knighthood by being given the title of "the seal of all Muhaddithun"! Imagine, such a wretched kafir being the top hadithisist and Shaykh Al-Islam of a sect that claims to represent the Ahlul-Bayt (A)!

So basically all of the above and more is perfectly understandable and not absurd to all, it's just us 'shallow Wahabi-Nasibi-Takfiris' who have failed to contextualise these statements of Kufr and Zandaqah as we are 'living in the past' Poor us really.

Anyway, politics and agenda do indeed change, although Iran is strong, it is nonetheless a loner in a Sunni world and Imamism and Iran (especially its clergy) have never been hated so much as of today, be it outside or even inside Iran, so it just makes sense for the Mullahs of Qom and Khomeini to play the Taqiyyah card to the max, they have learnt from the mistakes of the past ever since Sunni Persia has become majority Shia Persia. Their Safawi Salaf received heavy blows and backlashes, like the siege of Isfahan by the Iranic Pashtun Sunnis; the loss of many Persian territories like Sunni Herat/Khorasan, wars with Ottomans and not to forget the huge number of remaining Sunnis inside Iran who have a much higher birthrate than the average super-secular Iranian Shia family and to add to the dilemma (for the Shia clergy and regime) they inhabit most border regions of Iran (that are majority Sunni) i.e. the most sensitive parts of the country! Iran has alot of domestic problems most of the Muslim world is not aware of, from secession movements in non-Persian regions (especially Arab Ahwazis who even according to regime voices have seen large conversions to Sunnism) to the growing demands of the native Sunnis.

Keeping all of that in mind, of course Iran doesn't follow a naive and moronic Shirazi method of spreading Imamism (i.e. abondening Taqiyyah), as an Ex-Shia I'm telling you from my own experience that although a few phychopaths and other die hard mushriks might fall for the Shirazi type of Da'wah, yet trust me, way more effective is what the Iranian regime/Khomeinists do, they are upon Khomeini's manhaj and creed that is nothing but mass-takfir on the Sahaba and the cursing of them, however they know that hiding these ugly beliefs or simply denying them in open will always appeal to some dumb Sunnis who will fall for empty slogans and the farce they call "unity conferences". I remember when I used to be a Shi'i, one Lebanese Khomeinist gave me a disgusting advice, he said:

"Don't curse Abu Bakr, Umar and their Sahaba at the first meeting, feed him with our Shia books and material then he will himself curse them before you get even the chance to advise him to do so!"

This is why people who prayed behind the Zindiq Kafir Khomeini proudly assured others that Khomeini used to curse Abu Bakr and Omar in every Salah, as he himself believed in 'Du'a Sanamay' Quraysh. Even as a Shia back then I was slightly irritated when I heared these things, the only thing they had issues with was the cursing *openly*, they are so shameless, on Iranian state TV and mouthpieces of Iran like Press TV they always add the clause علنی (openly) when speaking about cursing. Like once I saw this Shia priest saying:

"These Shias who curse are British or American agents, we don't curse, our scholars made it haram to curse openly"

I was shocked and amused at the same time, I even started to get why the Shirazis hate the Khomeinists so much, the sheer hypocracy is disgusting and vile, the Shia priest was not even denying that they curse, he just added the *openly* bit to make us Sunnis feel more comfortable, knowing that they curse what is more beloved to us than our own selves behind close doors of their unity conference of lies/dajjal and deception!

So behind the curtains the Khomeinists are no different from the Shirazis in terms of their hatred of the Sahaba and their takfir on them, this is why the Sunni Defence exposed them so easily in the first place, their 'unity' calls is nothing but a sham and nobody knows that better than us Sunni Iranians and our scholars, the real Iranian Sunni scholars who have chosen torture and death over humiliation (I personally know of some Iranian Sunni Shaykhs that I would not call Munafiqs, however, they are weak and broken compared to those who never compromised, one of them told me that they fear for their lifes and families, i.e. they have to do actual Islamic Taqiyyah. They told me that if they don't participate at those "unity conferences" and other ridiculous Rafidi events and anniversaries they will face all sorts of harassment by the regime, threatening letters are send to them in advance, so that is why I always tell other Sunni brothers to excuse the Sunni scholars inside Iran, they live and are ruled by the enemies of the Ahlul-Sunnah, if anyone is excused, it's them, and despite all of the pressure, here and there you will find those Sunni Iranian scholars who never submitted and have exposed the Rafidah of Qom and their regime like nobody else:

https://youtu.be/AUhIS3PFKno

My only advice to these Khomeinists, these Neo-Safawis and Rafidis in general is that the age of fooling the Sunni masses is over, our Sunni Iranian satellite channels (launched from abroad as we Iranian Sunnis are deprived of running a single radio station in our majority Sunni provinces and cities, our lands for God's sake, forget about TV) have been broadcasting just over a decade ago, the Da'wah is still fresh and young, it's our age, our turn, every lie will be exposed, all the lies and hypocrisy in the name of Ahlul-Bayt and "unity" will be exposed, no matter how many forced or paid (sell outs) Iranian or non-Iranian Sunni scholars they will present in order to fool the gullible, no matter how many fake "unity conferences" they set up, actions speak louder than words.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Ibn Taymiyya on May 17, 2019, 10:25:05 AM
Are you on sh!tchat? Post our response to these people, and yes, a response is on its way, and it will be even more devastating for the Rafida than the intitial documentary, bi'ithnillah.
cant wait more, when is that coming

Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Ibn Taymiyya on May 17, 2019, 10:30:26 AM

My only advice to these Khomeinists, these Neo-Safawis and Rafidis in general is that the age of fooling the Sunni masses is over, our Sunni Iranian satellite channels (launched from abroad as we Iranian Sunnis are deprived of running a single radio station in our majority Sunni provinces and cities, our lands for God's sake, forget about TV) have been broadcasting just over a decade ago, the Da'wah is still fresh and young, it's our age, our turn, every lie will be exposed, all the lies and hypocrisy in the name of Ahlul-Bayt and "unity" will be exposed, no matter how many forced or paid (sell outs) Iranian or non-Iranian Sunni scholars they will present in order to fool the gullible, no matter how many fake "unity conferences" they set up, actions speak louder than words.

jazakallaha khyran
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on May 17, 2019, 12:53:19 PM
What I am on about? Your religion teaches that all Sahaba except 3 (some narrations are slightly more generous) apostated!

Renowned Shia scholar `Ali al-Namazi a-Shahroudi says in his book "Mustadrakat `Ilm-ul-Rijal" 1/67:

We conclude from the big quantity of [Shia]narrations declaring that all companions are apostates except three or four, that the general rule for every companion who remained alive after the Prophet (saw) and did not become a martyr in his time, is that they are apostates for placing the non-chosen leader (means Abu Bakr) in authority over the chosen leader (means `Ali), or impious sinners for their short comings when it came to supporting him (means `Ali), thus it is not possible to assume the reliability of any of them except through a specific divine text.

^This disgusting mass-takfir belief is based on a plethora of Shia narrations that declare the Sahaba as kuffar, then you wonder why you, a bunch of tomb crawling and Imam invoking deviants are called kuffar?! You deserve that and much more!

“The people all became apostates after the Prophet’s death except for three.” When asked who they were, he replied, “al-Miqdad ibn al-Aswad, Abu Dharr, and Salman...” (Rijal al-Kashshi pp12-13)”.

This is mass takfir of the vast majority of the Sahaba! This is why the scholars state that the Rawafilth (Rawafid i.e. your kind) are worse and more extreme in takfir than the Khawarij! As for takfir on the Shia:

Many Shias are Muslims. Zaydi Shias are Muslims, early (political) Shias in the time (many of them narrators in Bukhari) were Muslim, however, Ismailis, Twelvers and every other extreme sect that holds kufri beliefs is out of the fold of Islam.


That's the problem with you Rafida, you have been brainwashed, fallen for a narrative and build principles based on that false narrative and premise. Sahih narrations do not prove that people simply took up arms against Ali, yes certain groups did, like the Khawarij (and even on them Ali didn't make Takfir), other Sahaba were involved in a Fitnah, Ali was on the truth, Ali never accused them of kufr and even cursed their killers (like how Ali cursed the killer of al-Zubayr), end of the story. It is your backwarded takfir sect that treats Ali like a god and declares everyone a kafir who happened to had an issue with him! Those who opposed any of the three are not by necessity kafirs to us. Sa'd ibn Ubadah didn't give bay'ah to Abu Bakr, doesn't make him a kafir! We are not emotional Imam worshippers like you.

And your problem is that you go around looking for things within in books to paint your desired picture of my faith, belief and community. And you do it with what ever bits and pieces you can find and then take them out of context. This is exactly what is called PROPAGANDA. Ever heard of it.
People have difference in thought, opinion and point of view. Are Sunnis not the same.

Some Sunnis send takfir on others. Some (Deobandi) are not willing to give funeral prayers to a deceased of another (Barelvi). As far as books are concerned what ever is in that book is down to the author and writer of that book. No one can impose anything from that book and hold any sect, faith or community at ransom or accountable for what's in that book. Do I make myself clear. Obviously not because you're a PROPAGANDIST!
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: muslim720 on May 17, 2019, 01:46:50 PM
With long commute between work and home, I played the clip in my car and watched - actually listened - to Islamic Pulse's response.  The overuse of the phrase "takfeeri Wahhabis" to describe anyone who challenges Shi'i beliefs was quite original (not).  The guy featured in the video did not even touch the subject matter.  I do not care what he says their scholars say; according to the Shia madhhab, the words of their Imams (ra) encapsulated in their books trump everyone and everything.  And it is clear to everyone what (their scholars say) the Imams (ra) said regarding the Companions (ra) and those who disbelieved in Imamah.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Mythbuster1 on May 17, 2019, 02:45:16 PM
And your problem is that you go around looking for things within in books to paint your desired picture of my faith, belief and community. And you do it with what ever bits and pieces you can find and then take them out of context. This is exactly what is called PROPAGANDA. Ever heard of it.
People have difference in thought, opinion and point of view. Are Sunnis not the same.

Some Sunnis send takfir on others. Some (Deobandi) are not willing to give funeral prayers to a deceased of another (Barelvi). As far as books are concerned what ever is in that book is down to the author and writer of that book. No one can impose anything from that book and hold any sect, faith or community at ransom or accountable for what's in that book. Do I make myself clear. Obviously not because you're a PROPAGANDIST!

Says the guy who uses FALSE PROPAGANDA against certain friends of the prophet saw......without authentic proof....,.ICEMAN you are a true hypocrite how can you possibly call others propagandists when YOU yourself are doing EXACTLY that.

You still haven’t provided authentic evidence of Umar ra saying ......”don’t listen to him”......YET!

You propagandist😂😂
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on May 17, 2019, 04:12:35 PM
Says the guy who uses FALSE PROPAGANDA against certain friends of the prophet saw......without authentic proof....,.ICEMAN you are a true hypocrite how can you possibly call others propagandists when YOU yourself are doing EXACTLY that.

You still haven’t provided authentic evidence of Umar ra saying ......”don’t listen to him”......YET!

You propagandist😂😂

I use propaganda against certain friends of the Prophet s.a.w., can you prove this chuck. What kind of friends were they that the likes of you so desperately need to protect and defend them and their clear intentions here there and everywhere 😅
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on May 18, 2019, 04:11:47 PM
And your problem is that you go around looking for things within in books to paint your desired picture of my faith, belief and community. And you do it with what ever bits and pieces you can find and then take them out of context. This is exactly what is called PROPAGANDA. Ever heard of it.
People have difference in thought, opinion and point of view. Are Sunnis not the same.

Some Sunnis send takfir on others. Some (Deobandi) are not willing to give funeral prayers to a deceased of another (Barelvi). As far as books are concerned what ever is in that book is down to the author and writer of that book. No one can impose anything from that book and hold any sect, faith or community at ransom or accountable for what's in that book. Do I make myself clear. Obviously not because you're a PROPAGANDIST!

Nonsense, give it a rest Ya Rafidi, these damage control rants used to work a decade or so, not in this age anymore, trust me. ANTI-MAJOS has been accused of anything except mistranslations (or things being taken out of context) or things out of context, in fact many mushrik Shias were proud of all the shirk we have exposed, others who had some braincelss left were so disturbed, they openly admitted that ANTI-MAJOS made them doubt Shi'ism (hence RafidaORG felt the need to respond, but failed miserably).

So don't chat rubbish my friend. The TSD documentary itself made all ya blood boil so hard because it did expose your grand Ayatullats, those non-Shirazis who just like Shirazis curse and do mass-takfir against Sahaba, just a little bit more behind the curtains. So no, i's not propaganda or taking things out of context, it's your filthy religion in raw form.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: muslim720 on May 19, 2019, 04:25:02 AM
Nonsense, give it a rest Ya Rafidi, these damage control rants used to work a decade or so, not in this age anymore, trust me. ANTI-MAJOS has been accused of anything except mistranslations (or things being taken out of context) or things out of context, in fact many mushrik Shias were proud of all the shirk we have exposed, others who had some braincelss left were so disturbed, they openly admitted that ANTI-MAJOS made them doubt Shi'ism (hence RafidaORG felt the need to respond, but failed miserably).

So don't chat rubbish my friend. The TSD documentary itself made all ya blood boil so hard because it did expose your grand Ayatullats, those non-Shirazis who just like Shirazis curse and do mass-takfir against Sahaba, just a little bit more behind the curtains. So no, i's not propaganda or taking things out of context, it's your filthy religion in raw form.

No need to address this fool!  He is the lowlife degenerate who did not see any issues with a video showing Shia zakirs uttering pure kufr.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: ANTI-MAJOS - Kas-SAHEL! on June 19, 2019, 12:29:17 PM
And the humiliation continuous, this is indeed the era where Rafidism gets exposed to the masses like never before in all of its humiliated and vile history. Years of "unity" crap propaganda and the demonization of Sunnis who oppose Rafidism under the pretext of "combating Wahhabism" (later Daesh/Isis) were wasted, nobody is believing their empty slogans anymore, whether Shirazi Majoos or Khomeinists Majoos, both of them are enemies of Ahlus-sunnah, united in their hatred for the Sahaba.

Muzaffer that whiny beta male might as well start hiding forever like his non-existing and non-guiding "Imam".

Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: muslim720 on June 19, 2019, 12:39:46 PM
And the humiliation continuous, this is indeed the era where Rafidism gets exposed to the masses like never before in all of its humiliated and vile history.

Watched, more like listened to, it during my morning commute. 

While watching Islamic Pulse's "fiery response", I thought Muzaffer's constant "takfeeri Wahhabis" phrase was appalling until I watched his tweet, featured on the latest TSD video, in which Muzaffer used the hashtag "DeathToSaudis" (watch 36:54).

Never will I ever criticize the Saudi regime in front of a Shia nor will I allow a Shia to do so in my presence.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 19, 2019, 07:25:27 PM
Nonsense, give it a rest Ya Rafidi, these damage control rants used to work a decade or so, not in this age anymore, trust me. ANTI-MAJOS has been accused of anything except mistranslations (or things being taken out of context) or things out of context, in fact many mushrik Shias were proud of all the shirk we have exposed, others who had some braincelss left were so disturbed, they openly admitted that ANTI-MAJOS made them doubt Shi'ism (hence RafidaORG felt the need to respond, but failed miserably).

So don't chat rubbish my friend. The TSD documentary itself made all ya blood boil so hard because it did expose your grand Ayatullats, those non-Shirazis who just like Shirazis curse and do mass-takfir against Sahaba, just a little bit more behind the curtains. So no, i's not propaganda or taking things out of context, it's your filthy religion in raw form.

So which part of the sky did you all of a sudden fall out from. This site has got enough anti Shia jokers and clowns. There is no such thing as MASS TAKFIR AGAINST THE SAHABA. Your kind created this nonsense out of the blue. The companions aren't saints. Take a look at your own takfir against Malik bin Nuwayrah and the other companions killed on the orders of Khalid.There is no clear evidence of apostasy.

And even if there was then you have it there right in front of your eyes that the Sahaba aren't mehfooz after the Prophet’s saw death. If some can be accused of apostasy then why can't others be accused of going astray or deviation? 😊😊😊 Enjoy!
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 19, 2019, 07:36:01 PM
And the humiliation continuous, this is indeed the era where Rafidism gets exposed to the masses like never before in all of its humiliated and vile history. Years of "unity" crap propaganda and the demonization of Sunnis who oppose Rafidism under the pretext of "combating Wahhabism" (later Daesh/Isis) were wasted, nobody is believing their empty slogans anymore, whether Shirazi Majoos or Khomeinists Majoos, both of them are enemies of Ahlus-sunnah, united in their hatred for the Sahaba.

Muzaffer that whiny beta male might as well start hiding forever like his non-existing and non-guiding "Imam".



When the time of the death of the Prophet approached while there were some men in the house, and among them was 'Umar Ibn al-Khattab, the Prophet said: "Come near let me write for you a writing after which you will never go astray." 'Umar said: "The Prophet is seriously ill, and you have the Qur'an, so Allah's Book is sufficient for us." The people in the house differed and disputed. Some of them said, "Come near so that Allah's Apostle may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," while the others said what 'Umar said. When they made much noise and quarreled greatly in front of the Prophet, he said to them, "Go away and leave me." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "It was a great disaster that their quarrel and noise prevented Allah's Apostle from writing a statement for them.
Sahih al Bukhari Arabic-English Volume 9 hadith number 468 and Volume 7 hadith 573

So the will of the Prophet s.a.w (the writing) was never written, prevented by Umar and his clan. So this means they went ASTRAY after the Prophet s.a.w. That's according to the prophet saw. DIG THIS. EXPOSE AND HIGHLIGHT THIS AS WELL 😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 19, 2019, 07:45:01 PM
Watched, more like listened to, it during my morning commute. 

While watching Islamic Pulse's "fiery response", I thought Muzaffer's constant "takfeeri Wahhabis" phrase was appalling until I watched his tweet, featured on the latest TSD video, in which Muzaffer used the hashtag "DeathToSaudis" (watch 36:54).

Never will I ever criticize the Saudi regime in front of a Shia nor will I allow a Shia to do so in my presence.

The Middle East has a long tradition of being awash with conspiracy theories from the sublime to the ridiculous – so much so that long held perceptions have become a reality on the ground.

One such assumption on the Arab street has been that Saudi Arabia has never really pulled its weight behind the Palestinian cause. Some have gone even further to suggest that Saudi Arabia is in bed with Israel: this was a claim held by former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein when he threatened to attack both the Saudis and Israelis in the first Gulf war.

Similarly the former head of Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden and more recently his son Hamza accused the Saudis of supporting American-Israeli hegemony over Palestine.

The streets of Cairo and the souks of Damascus have been abuzz since the announcement of President Donald Trump’s unilateral decision to announce Jerusalem as the capital of Israel by moving the US Embassy there.

There were not many things that the secular Saddam Hussein agreed on with the radical Osama bin Laden – so what is it that unites these two worldviews in alleging Saudi support for Israel?
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 19, 2019, 07:48:44 PM
China wages relentless crackdowns on its Muslims. But Saudi Arabia stays quiet as it bolsters ties with Beijing.

BEIJING — In China, the current Islamic holy month of Ramadan can bring even more struggles for Muslims already under relentless pressures.

Chinese authorities are bullying members of the Muslim minority Uighur community to eat and drink before sundown — in violation of Islamic rules for Ramadan — with the implicit threat of punishment if they do not, activists say.

“It’s distressing, and it’s insulting to our dignity,” said Dolkun Isa, president of the World Uyghur Congress, an advocacy organization based in Munich.

He described how restaurants run by Muslims in the western Chinese region of Xinjiang have been forced to open during the day and how Uighur workers have been harassed to eat and drink during lunch breaks at their Chinese-run places of work.

And what does the Crown prince of Saudi Arabia do when he visited China.

Mohammad bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’’s crown prince, on Friday defended China’s use of concentration camps for Muslims, saying it was Beijing’s “right”. 😐😑
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 19, 2019, 08:10:06 PM
China wages relentless crackdowns on its Muslims. But Saudi Arabia stays quiet as it bolsters ties with Beijing.

BEIJING — In China, the current Islamic holy month of Ramadan can bring even more struggles for Muslims already under relentless pressures.

Chinese authorities are bullying members of the Muslim minority Uighur community to eat and drink before sundown — in violation of Islamic rules for Ramadan — with the implicit threat of punishment if they do not, activists say.

“It’s distressing, and it’s insulting to our dignity,” said Dolkun Isa, president of the World Uyghur Congress, an advocacy organization based in Munich.

He described how restaurants run by Muslims in the western Chinese region of Xinjiang have been forced to open during the day and how Uighur workers have been harassed to eat and drink during lunch breaks at their Chinese-run places of work.

And what does the Crown prince of Saudi Arabia do when he visited China.

Mohammad bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’’s crown prince, on Friday defended China’s use of concentration camps for Muslims, saying it was Beijing’s “right”. 😐😑

MBS is a tyrant. Most sunnis do not like Saudi royal family.

Shias need to stop thinking that we view the saudi royals like they view khamenei and co. Most of us happily criticise our leaders, whereas shias go to excessive means to defend Iran/Khamenei's regime.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 19, 2019, 08:22:17 PM
Oh is iceman trying to bait muslim720 with the saudi post?
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 19, 2019, 09:17:07 PM
Oh is iceman trying to bait muslim720 with the saudi post?

😊☺😁😂 Nice one! 😃😂
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Mythbuster1 on June 19, 2019, 10:30:33 PM
China wages relentless crackdowns on its Muslims. But Saudi Arabia stays quiet as it bolsters ties with Beijing.

BEIJING — In China, the current Islamic holy month of Ramadan can bring even more struggles for Muslims already under relentless pressures.

Chinese authorities are bullying members of the Muslim minority Uighur community to eat and drink before sundown — in violation of Islamic rules for Ramadan — with the implicit threat of punishment if they do not, activists say.

“It’s distressing, and it’s insulting to our dignity,” said Dolkun Isa, president of the World Uyghur Congress, an advocacy organization based in Munich.

He described how restaurants run by Muslims in the western Chinese region of Xinjiang have been forced to open during the day and how Uighur workers have been harassed to eat and drink during lunch breaks at their Chinese-run places of work.

And what does the Crown prince of Saudi Arabia do when he visited China.

Mohammad bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’’s crown prince, on Friday defended China’s use of concentration camps for Muslims, saying it was Beijing’s “right”. 😐😑


Dumbo are you brain dead or are you just stupid........we told you we don’t like Saudi regime that INCLUDES MBS!!!

As for your Irani leader he was sat with Xi Jingping at the SCO meeting greeting him and dining with him as well as taking pics together, why don’t you call him out you hypocrite? Or is it because he is a shia and he is divinely chosen?

https://images.app.goo.gl/tEsDUGxeRch8gwgBA

Your hypocrisy runs deep dumbo!😜
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Mythbuster1 on June 19, 2019, 10:47:26 PM
MBS is a tyrant. Most sunnis do not like Saudi royal family.

Shias need to stop thinking that we view the saudi royals like they view khamenei and co. Most of us happily criticise our leaders, whereas shias go to excessive means to defend Iran/Khamenei's regime.

Iceman is a pure hypocrite he won’t say anything bad about Iran’s leader who wants closer ties with China I have posted an image of the two sat together.

Yes we hate bin salman we admit it and call a spade a spade but this hypocrite even after being shown evidences will NEVER criticise Iran or its leaders instead the hypocrite will bang on about how we hate Iran and Shias even after evidence is put forth.

He has that much hate for Sunnis that he is blinded by it.



Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 19, 2019, 11:51:36 PM
Iceman is a pure hypocrite he won’t say anything bad about Iran’s leader who wants closer ties with China I have posted an image of the two sat together.

Yes we hate bin salman we admit it and call a spade a spade but this hypocrite even after being shown evidences will NEVER criticise Iran or its leaders instead the hypocrite will bang on about how we hate Iran and Shias even after evidence is put forth.

He has that much hate for Sunnis that he is blinded by it.

Twelver shia positions in this area of politics are weird and hypocritical in all honestly. They complain about Yazid 1400 years ago and Saudi now but in the present day they also support Bashar Al-Assad.

The user "whoaretheshia" on here, stated on shiachat before that he believes shias who dislike khamenei to be munafiqs. All the while, Khamenei is out there sitting cosy with Assad. Imagine holding such reverence for a guy who openly meets a tyrant under whose regime countless Muslim women have been raped and countless Muslim children have been murdered.

It's just crazy.




Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 20, 2019, 06:09:00 AM
Iceman is a pure hypocrite he won’t say anything bad about Iran’s leader who wants closer ties with China I have posted an image of the two sat together.

Yes we hate bin salman we admit it and call a spade a spade but this hypocrite even after being shown evidences will NEVER criticise Iran or its leaders instead the hypocrite will bang on about how we hate Iran and Shias even after evidence is put forth.

He has that much hate for Sunnis that he is blinded by it.

"He has that much hate for Sunnis that he is blinded by it"

😊 If I had hate for Sunnis I would be speaking in the same way, fashion and manner to you as you do to me. And I would treat you and others just as you see and treat me. My Ikhlaq shows how much hate I have for Sunnis 😊😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 20, 2019, 06:54:31 AM
Twelver shia positions in this area of politics are weird and hypocritical in all honestly. They complain about Yazid 1400 years ago and Saudi now but in the present day they also support Bashar Al-Assad.

The user "whoaretheshia" on here, stated on shiachat before that he believes shias who dislike khamenei to be munafiqs. All the while, Khamenei is out there sitting cosy with Assad. Imagine holding such reverence for a guy who openly meets a tyrant under whose regime countless Muslim women have been raped and countless Muslim children have been murdered.

It's just crazy.

A clear accusation on the Assad regime. 😊 Assad is fighting terrorists and extremists armed by the west and the Saudis because of his relationship with Iran. It's all political. The west see Assad as ally of Iran therefore a threat to Israel. Because Iran supports Hezbollah through Assad and Syria  against Israel. This is why during the Arab spring the west and its eastern allies took the opportunity to topple Assad by arming terrorists and extremists in Syria during the Arab spring. Is all political. And since Assad is also Shia that stings you boys. 😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Mythbuster1 on June 20, 2019, 10:16:32 AM
"He has that much hate for Sunnis that he is blinded by it"

😊 If I had hate for Sunnis I would be speaking in the same way, fashion and manner to you as you do to me. And I would treat you and others just as you see and treat me. My Ikhlaq shows how much hate I have for Sunnis 😊😊

Yea your ikhlaq shows how biased of an individual you are against Sunnis your ikhlaq even will bring you to mention others parents who have nothing to do with the conversation.

My way of talking to you is against you and the condescending way you post.

Look at your posts.😂
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Mythbuster1 on June 20, 2019, 10:26:04 AM
Twelver shia positions in this area of politics are weird and hypocritical in all honestly. They complain about Yazid 1400 years ago and Saudi now but in the present day they also support Bashar Al-Assad.

The user "whoaretheshia" on here, stated on shiachat before that he believes shias who dislike khamenei to be munafiqs. All the while, Khamenei is out there sitting cosy with Assad. Imagine holding such reverence for a guy who openly meets a tyrant under whose regime countless Muslim women have been raped and countless Muslim children have been murdered.

It's just crazy.






WATCH how he will not answer to the pic I posted of shia leader sat next to chinese leader after going on a tangent about how Saudi are close with China .........yet the hypocrite will still bang on about how much we hate Shias.........WATCH!😉

Hypocrite number 1!😂
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 21, 2019, 07:52:08 PM
WATCH how he will not answer to the pic I posted of shia leader sat next to chinese leader after going on a tangent about how Saudi are close with China .........yet the hypocrite will still bang on about how much we hate Shias.........WATCH!😉

Hypocrite number 1!😂

I wonder if seeing such things, like their imam khamenei sitting with tyrants and allying with them, causes doubts in their hearts.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 21, 2019, 09:42:11 PM
I wonder if seeing such things, like their imam khamenei sitting with tyrants and allying with them, causes doubts in their hearts.

What tyrant 😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 21, 2019, 09:46:54 PM
Yea your ikhlaq shows how biased of an individual you are against Sunnis your ikhlaq even will bring you to mention others parents who have nothing to do with the conversation.

My way of talking to you is against you and the condescending way you post.

Look at your posts.😂

Your way of talking and behaviour is of someone who has been brainwashed from day one. You have grudge and hate filled in your heart and that's how you've been brought up and taught. As long as the poison is within you the illness of disrespecting and mistreating others will remain. Just pointing facts out about you. Not that I personally care and have time for someone of your nature and stance. 😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Mythbuster1 on June 21, 2019, 10:25:51 PM
Your way of talking and behaviour is of someone who has been brainwashed from day one. You have grudge and hate filled in your heart and that's how you've been brought up and taught. As long as the poison is within you the illness of disrespecting and mistreating others will remain. Just pointing facts out about you. Not that I personally care and have time for someone of your nature and stance. 😊

Oh you do care and you have plenty of time ANSWERING back to my posts don’t kid yourself dumbo.😂

As for being taught at least I admit when I or something I know is false I call it out......unlike you who will hate on something like Saudi even though your own nation Iran does the same, now that’s hypocrisy in Arabic it’s termed as munafiq.........that’s your true auqaad.😜👍
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Mythbuster1 on June 21, 2019, 10:29:34 PM
I wonder if seeing such things, like their imam khamenei sitting with tyrants and allying with them, causes doubts in their hearts.


The guy has munafaqat in his heart he  is hard hearted he has no truth in him or the love for haq in him........watch he still won’t answer to why it’s ok for shia imam to sit with China leader but he will cry his hypocrisy filled heart out on why mbs does.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 21, 2019, 11:53:32 PM
What tyrant 😊

(https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/file/getimagecustom/c94c7e47-5307-45d2-aef4-55331544a74d/850/479)
(https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2016/01/Mideast-Iran-China_Horo.jpg)
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 24, 2019, 10:38:56 PM
(https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/file/getimagecustom/c94c7e47-5307-45d2-aef4-55331544a74d/850/479)
(https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2016/01/Mideast-Iran-China_Horo.jpg)

So what makes you call them tyrant 😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 25, 2019, 12:53:45 AM
So what makes you call them tyrant 😊

Let's start off with the chinese guy. You can tell me why he isn't a tyrant, afterall, you said:

China wages relentless crackdowns on its Muslims. But Saudi Arabia stays quiet as it bolsters ties with Beijing.

BEIJING — In China, the current Islamic holy month of Ramadan can bring even more struggles for Muslims already under relentless pressures.

Chinese authorities are bullying members of the Muslim minority Uighur community to eat and drink before sundown — in violation of Islamic rules for Ramadan — with the implicit threat of punishment if they do not, activists say.

“It’s distressing, and it’s insulting to our dignity,” said Dolkun Isa, president of the World Uyghur Congress, an advocacy organization based in Munich.

He described how restaurants run by Muslims in the western Chinese region of Xinjiang have been forced to open during the day and how Uighur workers have been harassed to eat and drink during lunch breaks at their Chinese-run places of work.

And what does the Crown prince of Saudi Arabia do when he visited China.

Mohammad bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’’s crown prince, on Friday defended China’s use of concentration camps for Muslims, saying it was Beijing’s “right”. 😐😑


Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 25, 2019, 11:26:33 AM
Let's start off with the chinese guy. You can tell me why he isn't a tyrant, afterall, you said:

Now you're going on what I said, so he is a tyrant. Or his behaviour towards Chinese Muslims is ruthless and brutal. Or at least the rights of Chinese Muslims are crushed and oppressed. Lets stick to this that the Chinese leader is a tyrant. Why focus on the Iranian leadership? Just because they're Shia? If Iran's leadership was Sunni then not a word would be said by you. That's my point. Either be honest by being fair and just and criticise and condemn the entire Muslim Ummah and that is the leadership of other Muslim countries and nations. Or stop using general and global issues to settle personal scores.

What about the leadership of Bahrain and how they treated its civilians during the Arab spring? What about Saudi Arabia and how its treating its civilians in the south. Are these leaderships not tyrant? Is it just Assad we're after and focusing on? What about Irans support for the Palestinians and for Palestine against Israeli occupation? How much has other Muslim nations especially the Arab leaders helped by standing firm with Iran over the Palestinian issue. I believe looking at other Muslim leaders and their establishment Iran is doing the right thing and that is to look after and put its country, nation and economy first by building better ties with the international community. This is what I called for and told the Iranians years back.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 25, 2019, 08:30:45 PM
Now you're going on what I said, so he is a tyrant. Or his behaviour towards Chinese Muslims is ruthless and brutal. Or at least the rights of Chinese Muslims are crushed and oppressed. Lets stick to this that the Chinese leader is a tyrant. Why focus on the Iranian leadership? Just because they're Shia? If Iran's leadership was Sunni then not a word would be said by you. That's my point. Either be honest by being fair and just and criticise and condemn the entire Muslim Ummah and that is the leadership of other Muslim countries and nations. Or stop using general and global issues to settle personal scores.

What about the leadership of Bahrain and how they treated its civilians during the Arab spring? What about Saudi Arabia and how its treating its civilians in the south. Are these leaderships not tyrant? Is it just Assad we're after and focusing on? What about Irans support for the Palestinians and for Palestine against Israeli occupation? How much has other Muslim nations especially the Arab leaders helped by standing firm with Iran over the Palestinian issue. I believe looking at other Muslim leaders and their establishment Iran is doing the right thing and that is to look after and put its country, nation and economy first by building better ties with the international community. This is what I called for and told the Iranians years back.

Are you not reading this thread...? We have said we will condemn people like the saudis if they support China.

Now can you condemn khamenei as a zalim tyrant lover for being cosy with the Chinese? Seems not. What a hypocrite. Praises Iran for being cosy with China but attacks the Saudis for doing the same.

Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 25, 2019, 08:43:06 PM
Are you not reading this thread...? We have said we will condemn people like the saudis if they support China.

Now can you condemn khamenei as a zalim tyrant lover for being cosy with the Chinese? Seems not. What a hypocrite. Praises Iran for being cosy with China but attacks the Saudis for doing the same.

"We have said we will condemn people like the saudis if they support China"

If? They already have. Are you not reading the thread. Read post #31.

"Now can you condemn khamenei as a zalim tyrant lover for being cosy with the Chinese?"

Read post #31 then use the same words about the Saudi Crown Prince.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 25, 2019, 09:00:45 PM
"We have said we will condemn people like the saudis if they support China"

If? They already have. Are you not reading the thread. Read post #31.

"Now can you condemn khamenei as a zalim tyrant lover for being cosy with the Chinese?"

Read post #31 then use the same words about the Saudi Crown Prince.

Already called him it before when I replied to you
MBS is a tyrant. Most sunnis do not like Saudi royal family.

Shias need to stop thinking that we view the saudi royals like they view khamenei and co. Most of us happily criticise our leaders, whereas shias go to excessive means to defend Iran/Khamenei's regime.

But if it makes you happy - MBS is a zalim tyrant lover.

Let's here you call out khamenei now lol.

Shias may stay quiet and defend their leaders tyranny but we sunnis are not like that.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 25, 2019, 10:10:07 PM
Already called him it before when I replied to you
But if it makes you happy - MBS is a zalim tyrant lover.

Let's here you call out khamenei now lol.

Shias may stay quiet and defend their leaders tyranny but we sunnis are not like that.

The Sunnis are like that through out. Which Gulf state or Arab state sided with  Iran for support for the Palestinian people. Which Sunni leadership supports Hamas or Islamic Jihad. What about the Saudis seeking support from the west against Saddam. Would you call the Bahrain leadership tyrant for what they have done and are doing to their people, just as the Syrian leadership. It's your double standards that's the issue.
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 25, 2019, 10:16:26 PM
The Sunnis are like that through out. Which Gulf state or Arab state sided with  Iran for support for the Palestinian people. Which Sunni leadership supports Hamas or Islamic Jihad. What about the Saudis seeking support from the west against Saddam. Would you call the Bahrain leadership tyrant for what they have done and are doing to their people, just as the Syrian leadership. It's your double standards that's the issue.

Do you have trouble reading? I asked you to call out khamenei. Come on, do it or do you support oppression?

You're just trying to deflect the attention away by randomly bringing up Palestine, Saddam, aliens etc...

If you call out khamenei, then we can move on to other issues that you want to discuss  :)
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 25, 2019, 11:18:01 PM
Do you have trouble reading? I asked you to call out khamenei. Come on, do it or do you support oppression?

You're just trying to deflect the attention away by randomly bringing up Palestine, Saddam, aliens etc...

If you call out khamenei, then we can move on to other issues that you want to discuss  :)

Once you can get rid of your double standards and be honest, fair and just with yourselves then we can look into to any matter and call out anyone. 😊😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 25, 2019, 11:28:36 PM
Once you can get rid of your double standards and be honest, fair and just with yourselves then we can look into to any matter and call out anyone. 😊😊

Typical. Asks for a sunni to condemn MBS and gets a condemnation. But then won't condemn khamanei for being cosy with the chinese too.

Truly I've never known a people to support oppressors and tyrants as much as the shia do.   :-\ :-\
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 25, 2019, 11:37:22 PM
Typical. Asks for a sunni to condemn MBS and gets a condemnation. But then won't condemn khamanei for being cosy with the chinese too.

Truly I've never known a people to support oppressors and tyrants as much as the shia do.   :-\ :-\

The Shias don't. The Sunnis do. How many countries do you have that are Shia led? And how many Sunni led. How many terror groups are Sunni and how many Shia? It's not that difficult to work out. 😊😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 26, 2019, 12:05:44 AM
The Shias don't. The Sunnis do. How many countries do you have that are Shia led? And how many Sunni led. How many terror groups are Sunni and how many Shia? It's not that difficult to work out. 😊😊

3 shia led countries, out of which two seem to be led by religious people or religiously influenced. Both Iraq and Iran produce huge numbers of shia terrorist groups which are normally state sanctioned or funded.

There are more sunni terrorist groups probably but we are 9 times your number so that's not a good argument either.  :) ;) ;)

Now condemn Khamenei for being a tyrant who gets cosy with other tyrants such as Xi jiping. How hard is it to do that?
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: Adil on June 26, 2019, 12:10:44 AM
4 countries if u count alawites as shia. ^
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 30, 2019, 12:06:27 PM
Yea your ikhlaq shows how biased of an individual you are against Sunnis your ikhlaq even will bring you to mention others parents who have nothing to do with the conversation.

My way of talking to you is against you and the condescending way you post.

Look at your posts.😂

You should have gone to specsavers. You would have been better off 😁😂 Take a look at yours. Then you will understand mine 😊
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 30, 2019, 12:08:14 PM
4 countries if u count alawites as shia. ^

Shias are minority. And being minority they seem to be upsetting you badly 😂 And how many countries are Sunni ruled? It doesn't bother us the slightest 😊 So what's eating you inside out 😂
Title: Re: How TSD Documentary exposed the Rafida! - Rafida humiliating Rafida!
Post by: iceman on June 30, 2019, 12:15:10 PM
3 shia led countries, out of which two seem to be led by religious people or religiously influenced. Both Iraq and Iran produce huge numbers of shia terrorist groups which are normally state sanctioned or funded.

There are more sunni terrorist groups probably but we are 9 times your number so that's not a good argument either.  :) ;) ;)

Now condemn Khamenei for being a tyrant who gets cosy with other tyrants such as Xi jiping. How hard is it to do that?

"Both Iraq and Iran produce huge numbers of shia terrorist groups which are normally state sanctioned or funded"

And tell us about these huge numbers of terror groups 😊 And list would be nice with names and details. Or are we talking wind here 😊

"There are more sunni terrorist groups probably but we are 9 times your number so that's not a good argument either"

Why isn't that a good argument? Because it makes you embarrassed and speechless 😊 This is exactly where the huge number of terror groups are. SUNNIS 😊