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Iran's Islamic Revolution

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Layla

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2018, 08:57:26 PM »
And absolutely and completely disagree with you. The Iranians don't flee. They didn't flee when Shah of Iran went tough and brutal on them backed by the west. The majority are happy and only a handful left. If the Iranian people want then believe me they will overthrow any regime.
Are you an Iranian living in Iran?

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2018, 10:20:39 AM »
And absolutely and completely disagree with you. The Iranians don't flee. They didn't flee when Shah of Iran went tough and brutal on them backed by the west. The majority are happy and only a handful left. If the Iranian people want then believe me they will overthrow any regime.

The Iranians don’t flee?? I know 2 who live near me and hate the regime so can you stop talking bull please.
I know zoroastrians who run a shop and they HATE the regime and admit there are many like them and are fearful of the secret police.
Iranians still cannot overthrow a desperate broken regime cos they are being WATCHED!!!

Doh!!!

iceman

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2018, 12:43:49 PM »
Are you an Iranian living in Iran?

No I'm not an Iranian but yes I've lived and studied in Iran. I also know people who live and study in Iran and Iranians as well. Also I'm a student of history. Read the history about the revolution in Iran and the overthrow of the king (shah) of Iran. All you need to do is read history and become familiar with reality and facts. You people are very distant from reality and facts. You rely on information based on gossip and rumours.

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2018, 01:37:55 PM »
Yea the history started off with ayatollah making deals with Europeans against shah of of Iran who was backed by USA.

Simple history of ayatollah rule........since they came to power Iran has suffered and they never could rule or fight but are good at taking hostages and fighting its own people.

Iran is a miserable failed state.

iceman

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2018, 11:06:57 PM »
Yea the history started off with ayatollah making deals with Europeans against shah of of Iran who was backed by USA.

Simple history of ayatollah rule........since they came to power Iran has suffered and they never could rule or fight but are good at taking hostages and fighting its own people.

Iran is a miserable failed state.

Don't start moving away from what is being discussed. The majority have their government. Those who fled, the ones you are talking about, are cowards. Only cowards flee. If the regime was that bad then the Iranians would overthrow it. Yes Iran has suffered not just by the international community but also by the Muslim community. And so have the Palestinians 😊 The Palestinians aren't Shia, are they? Why are they suffering?

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2018, 12:39:39 PM »
Don't start moving away from what is being discussed. The majority have their government. Those who fled, the ones you are talking about, are cowards. Only cowards flee. If the regime was that bad then the Iranians would overthrow it. Yes Iran has suffered not just by the international community but also by the Muslim community. And so have the Palestinians 😊 The Palestinians aren't Shia, are they? Why are they suffering?

I ain’t, I am here, I am not the one avoiding answering questions.

The first who fled was Ayotollah.......what was he doing in France? Eating frogs? He must be the biggest coward.

Anyway like I said I know people who ran who were tortured their families spied on and provoked by the Iranian secret police.........you can close your eyes and carry on dreaming of hidden beings but the truth will always remain and be clear.

😉


iceman

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2018, 11:58:25 PM »
I ain’t, I am here, I am not the one avoiding answering questions.

The first who fled was Ayotollah.......what was he doing in France? Eating frogs? He must be the biggest coward.

Anyway like I said I know people who ran who were tortured their families spied on and provoked by the Iranian secret police.........you can close your eyes and carry on dreaming of hidden beings but the truth will always remain and be clear.

😉

"The first who fled was Ayotollah.......what was he doing in France? Eating frogs? He must be the biggest coward"

Allow me to get your head straight. The Ayatollah didn't flee but was accused of causing unrest. Read history what he actually was accused of. And he was given the death penalty. All the leading clerics declared him as an Ayatollah and the law was that you can't sentence to death an Ayatollah. Then he was exiled. Get it. He didn't FLEE but was EXILED.  And far as me saying that you should read history really doesn't mean anything does it? You don't give a crap. All you're interested in is having a dig.

"Anyway like I said I know people who ran who were tortured their families spied on and provoked by the Iranian secret police....."

Any evidence to back your claim? I don't think so. But still allow me to answer. Every country and government has the right to protect themselves and their sovereign state from enemies within and without. They have a right to deal with mischief makers.

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2018, 10:32:55 AM »
"The first who fled was Ayotollah.......what was he doing in France? Eating frogs? He must be the biggest coward"

Allow me to get your head straight. The Ayatollah didn't flee but was accused of causing unrest. Read history what he actually was accused of. And he was given the death penalty. All the leading clerics declared him as an Ayatollah and the law was that you can't sentence to death an Ayatollah. Then he was exiled. Get it. He didn't FLEE but was EXILED.  And far as me saying that you should read history really doesn't mean anything does it? You don't give a crap. All you're interested in is having a dig.

"Anyway like I said I know people who ran who were tortured their families spied on and provoked by the Iranian secret police....."

Any evidence to back your claim? I don't think so. But still allow me to answer. Every country and government has the right to protect themselves and their sovereign state from enemies within and without. They have a right to deal with mischief makers.

Ok he was exiled chill out man, he was making plans in France instead😉

An ayatollah can’t be sentenced to death? Why is that?

Why should I show you evidence? Are you here with me right now? Do you want me to go meet up with this guy we call friendly as NIMI? Do you want me to get him to call you? He is on opium now stressed out and in fear!!! What proof do you need?

Open your eyes to the atrocities religious inspired men can do.......forget isis, ayatollahs are the same in the case if you don’t agree then you are wrong and will get punished no matter what.
Look how you kowtow to their way of thinking.😉

iceman

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2018, 12:23:21 PM »
Ok he was exiled chill out man, he was making plans in France instead😉

An ayatollah can’t be sentenced to death? Why is that?

Why should I show you evidence? Are you here with me right now? Do you want me to go meet up with this guy we call friendly as NIMI? Do you want me to get him to call you? He is on opium now stressed out and in fear!!! What proof do you need?

Open your eyes to the atrocities religious inspired men can do.......forget isis, ayatollahs are the same in the case if you don’t agree then you are wrong and will get punished no matter what.
Look how you kowtow to their way of thinking.😉

You definitely sound like a kid. I'm absolutely sure. Your response is so childish.

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2018, 12:41:46 PM »
You definitely sound like a kid. I'm absolutely sure. Your response is so childish.

??? LOL now that I told you I personally KNOW an Iranian person who ran from the evil regime that tortured him just because he doesn’t want ayatollahs ruling.........you start your childish rant again.......we know you mr iceman, it’s the same with other threads if you can’t answer you MOST DEFINITELY will make a remark like the above.😂😂😂

iceman

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2018, 01:05:24 PM »
??? LOL now that I told you I personally KNOW an Iranian person who ran from the evil regime that tortured him just because he doesn’t want ayatollahs ruling.........you start your childish rant again.......we know you mr iceman, it’s the same with other threads if you can’t answer you MOST DEFINITELY will make a remark like the above.😂😂😂

"LOL now that I told you I personally KNOW an Iranian person who ran from the evil regime"

Excuse me, you personally know an Iranian person? Just only one person? And you believe the regime is EVIL altogether just because you personally know ONLY AND JUST one person? Is this your solid evidence against a legitimate government, only one person? What planet are you living on. And what do we exactly know about this person? What can you tell us about this one person.

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2018, 02:13:22 PM »
"LOL now that I told you I personally KNOW an Iranian person who ran from the evil regime"

Excuse me, you personally know an Iranian person? Just only one person? And you believe the regime is EVIL altogether just because you personally know ONLY AND JUST one person? Is this your solid evidence against a legitimate government, only one person? What planet are you living on. And what do we exactly know about this person? What can you tell us about this one person.

Planet earth where there is no such thing as divine Imamate....mate😉👍

I know enough about this person if you wanna know this person then research on non religious Iranian citizens and how they supported the shah and not the religious nut ayatollah. I know you will insist on believing your own tripe rather than the truth.

Ayatollahs and your blind love for them has skewed your religious and world view please research facts.

Have you heard of “chain murders of Iran”? If NOT then please get outta that Shiite shell and open your eyes to the atrocities of these ayadollars.
The Chain murders of Iran or Serial murders of Iran, were a series of 1988–98 murders and disappearances of certain Iranian dissident intellectuals who had been critical of the Islamic Republic system in some way; the murders and disappearances were carried out by Iranian government internal operatives.

So now you read and say what the ayahdollars have taught your teachers, they are untouchable man even you yourself said that they don’t get executed!

I didn’t think you was this uneducated or are you?

iceman

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2018, 06:15:22 PM »
Planet earth where there is no such thing as divine Imamate....mate😉👍

I know enough about this person if you wanna know this person then research on non religious Iranian citizens and how they supported the shah and not the religious nut ayatollah. I know you will insist on believing your own tripe rather than the truth.

Ayatollahs and your blind love for them has skewed your religious and world view please research facts.

Have you heard of “chain murders of Iran”? If NOT then please get outta that Shiite shell and open your eyes to the atrocities of these ayadollars.
The Chain murders of Iran or Serial murders of Iran, were a series of 1988–98 murders and disappearances of certain Iranian dissident intellectuals who had been critical of the Islamic Republic system in some way; the murders and disappearances were carried out by Iranian government internal operatives.

So now you read and say what the ayahdollars have taught your teachers, they are untouchable man even you yourself said that they don’t get executed!

I didn’t think you was this uneducated or are you?

"Planet earth where there is no such thing as divine Imamate....mate😉"

Well in that case you're very much mistaken. Because I live on planet earth as well. And there is such thing as divine Imamate on planet earth. Allow me to prove it from the Qur'an.

"And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you an Imam for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."

Abraham was a human living on planet earth and he was blessed with Imamate right here on earth by being made an Imam after being tried by his Lord. 😊
« Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 06:26:15 PM by iceman »

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2018, 10:48:28 AM »
"Planet earth where there is no such thing as divine Imamate....mate😉"

Well in that case you're very much mistaken. Because I live on planet earth as well. And there is such thing as divine Imamate on planet earth. Allow me to prove it from the Qur'an.

"And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you an Imam for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."

Abraham was a human living on planet earth and he was blessed with Imamate right here on earth by being made an Imam after being tried by his Lord. 😊

Right chuck.......... so what was the test of the imams ra? And when did the Quran and prophet saw Himself state that NOW He Muhammad saw is an imam AFTER passing the test of prophet hood?

Don’t give me words like promotion give us DETAILS and PROOFS on your conclusion that imamate is higher than prophethood.

It shouldn’t be too hard to explain😉

iceman

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2018, 11:59:19 AM »
Right chuck.......... so what was the test of the imams ra? And when did the Quran and prophet saw Himself state that NOW He Muhammad saw is an imam AFTER passing the test of prophet hood?

Don’t give me words like promotion give us DETAILS and PROOFS on your conclusion that imamate is higher than prophethood.

It shouldn’t be too hard to explain😉

Don't jump like a frog from one place to the other like you normally do. And stick to the thread and what is being discussed.

This is what you said;

"Planet earth where there is no such thing as divine Imamate....mate😉"

No mention of Shia Imamah or Imams. You live on planet earth where you believe there is NO SUCH THING as DIVINE IMAMATE. Your words and not mine.

And this is what I said and here it is again.

Well in that case you're very much mistaken. Because I live on planet earth as well. And there is such thing as divine Imamate on planet earth. Allow me to prove it from the Qur'an.

"And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you an Imam for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."

Abraham was a human living on planet earth and he was blessed with Imamate right here on earth by being made an Imam after being tried by his Lord. 😊

So there you have it, DIVINE IMAMATE right here on PLANET EARTH and you have been proven 100% wrong direct from the Qur'an.

And you're doing is exactly what you usually do and that is come back with counter arguments and irrelevant stuff. You mentioned DIVINE IMAMATE and I proved you wrong. Although this is also irrelevant to what we're discussing which you have brought in.

Stick to the thread and what is being discussed 😊
« Last Edit: December 05, 2018, 12:08:56 PM by iceman »

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2018, 02:26:09 PM »
Don't jump like a frog from one place to the other like you normally do. And stick to the thread and what is being discussed.

This is what you said;

"Planet earth where there is no such thing as divine Imamate....mate😉"

No mention of Shia Imamah or Imams. You live on planet earth where you believe there is NO SUCH THING as DIVINE IMAMATE. Your words and not mine.

And this is what I said and here it is again.

Well in that case you're very much mistaken. Because I live on planet earth as well. And there is such thing as divine Imamate on planet earth. Allow me to prove it from the Qur'an.

"And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you an Imam for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."

Abraham was a human living on planet earth and he was blessed with Imamate right here on earth by being made an Imam after being tried by his Lord. 😊

So there you have it, DIVINE IMAMATE right here on PLANET EARTH and you have been proven 100% wrong direct from the Qur'an.

And you're doing is exactly what you usually do and that is come back with counter arguments and irrelevant stuff. You mentioned DIVINE IMAMATE and I proved you wrong. Although this is also irrelevant to what we're discussing which you have brought in.

Stick to the thread and what is being discussed 😊

So you have NO answer on how you related PROMOTION idea to prophets as.

I KNEW you had no answer, I KNEW since you made up that theory.😂

As for sticking to the thread, it was YOU who replied back and insinuated that Imamate is on earth and gave me an example of Ibrahim as who was PROMOTED😉........All I ask is what’s this promotion??

Divine Imamate comes AFTER PROMOTION so yes it’s RELEVANT to the thread because YOU associated that with divine imamate.

I think you REALLY need to re read what you post, your in a right tailspin here.😂

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2018, 02:32:39 PM »
This guy is funny he can see divine Imamate in a verse that has no divine Imamate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

He can see stuff others cant😂😂😂

His mind his reasoning says according to 1 verse proves that there is divine imamate, yet when asked simply how others got that promotion without tests etc........his answer.......stick to the thread😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This is shiism!

😳

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2018, 02:37:47 PM »
Ibrahim as gets tested and then promoted.......He was the KHALIL of Allah swt.

Imams BYPASSED the tests and were born without promotion........NO mention of them or their names by Allah swt

This is the most DUMBEST theory I’ve ever come across by a certain member.

😂

iceman

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2018, 05:48:03 PM »
Ibrahim as gets tested and then promoted.......He was the KHALIL of Allah swt.

Imams BYPASSED the tests and were born without promotion........NO mention of them or their names by Allah swt

This is the most DUMBEST theory I’ve ever come across by a certain member.

😂

IRRELEVANT TO THE THREAD AND WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING 😊

Mythbuster1

Re: Iran's Islamic Revolution
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2018, 10:29:53 AM »
IRRELEVANT TO THE THREAD AND WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING 😊

You believe in divine Imamate which is on earth as you produced the verse, the verse of......PROMOTIONS!!!........how is that irrelevant?

You started with the theory, what’s up? Can’t you defend it?

😂😂😂😂

 

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