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Adil

Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« on: December 17, 2019, 10:39:53 AM »
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/442726/Tehran-raps-U-S-interference-in-China-s-affairs

Guess unity doesn't apply to the Uighur Muslims either. The website is pro regime from the looks of it so our resident Khamenei fanboys can't complain about propaganda or something.


Adil

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2019, 10:17:12 PM »
What about the Saudi regime on china regarding the same issue 😊

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1UD36J&ved=2ahUKEwjor8-KzrzmAhVNURUIHSLWDJcQFjABegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw33pgEUcIo2FGqNiobAURpH&ampcf=1

Why is it always Iran for you. 😊

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/arab-states-give-china-a-pass-on-uyghur-crackdown&ved=2ahUKEwj09NmuzrzmAhU6XRUIHb6ZBKcQFjACegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1OsWQnhGBkXtRiPHCx3N61

I'm pretty sure we have already condemned Saudi Arabia multiple times on this forum for you.

It's about Iran because religious twelver shias are one of the biggest hypocrites on Earth. They cry about injustice 1400 years ago but when you confront them with the injustice done by their ayotollahs or leaders in the present day, they shy away from condemning it or opposing them

Why don't you help change this perception of shias and condemn on this thread Iran & the ayotollahs for their support of oppression?

iceman

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2019, 11:44:14 AM »
I'm pretty sure we have already condemned Saudi Arabia multiple times on this forum for you.

It's about Iran because religious twelver shias are one of the biggest hypocrites on Earth. They cry about injustice 1400 years ago but when you confront them with the injustice done by their ayotollahs or leaders in the present day, they shy away from condemning it or opposing them

Why don't you help change this perception of shias and condemn on this thread Iran & the ayotollahs for their support of oppression?

Show me how many threads you started on Saudi Arabia or any other country apart from Iran 😊 That's without me pointing out. If Iran wasn't shia it would be a different story for you. It's all about being anti shia for you. 😊 The only governments you focus on is Iran, Syria and Iraq since the fall of Saddam.

Adil

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2019, 11:53:56 AM »
Show me how many threads you started on Saudi Arabia or any other country apart from Iran 😊 That's without me pointing out. If Iran wasn't shia it would be a different story for you. It's all about being anti shia for you. 😊 The only governments you focus on is Iran, Syria and Iraq since the fall of Saddam.

Bro I really couldn't care less about showing you anything anymore. Even in the past when we condemn saudi arabia for you, you never condemn Iran. Sunnis are head and shoulders above shias in condemning tyranny.

It's about them you figured out whether you stand for Islam or whether you stand for whatever khamenei says or does. Many people like you cry crocodile tears for Hussain (ra) each year but when you're faced with injustice done by your own rulers/ayotollahs against a rival group then you support the injustice.

I will take your whatabouttery to mean that you support China's oppression of uighur Muslims. You can't bring yourself to condemn Iran/khamenei for supporting it so it's logical that you too support it.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2019, 11:58:27 AM by Adil »

iceman

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2019, 12:32:28 PM »
Bro I really couldn't care less about showing you anything anymore. Even in the past when we condemn saudi arabia for you, you never condemn Iran. Sunnis are head and shoulders above shias in condemning tyranny.

It's about them you figured out whether you stand for Islam or whether you stand for whatever khamenei says or does. Many people like you cry crocodile tears for Hussain (ra) each year but when you're faced with injustice done by your own rulers/ayotollahs against a rival group then you support the injustice.

I will take your whatabouttery to mean that you support China's oppression of uighur Muslims. You can't bring yourself to condemn Iran/khamenei for supporting it so it's logical that you too support it.

That's the point, you don't need to condemn anybody for me or anyone out of grudge. Condemn someone or something who or what needs condemning.

"Sunnis are head and shoulders above shias in condemning tyranny"

This is exactly my point, show me where? When you say something or make a claim and I challenge you over it or ask for an explanation you come out with crap.

"It's about them you figured out whether you stand for Islam or whether you stand for whatever khamenei says or does"

You're the one who needs to figure out whether you stand for Islam or for what ever your grudge tells you. Because Islam and Muhammad s.a.w had no grudge against anyone even when they had the right to have and hold it, after the taking of mecca (After fateh e Mecca).

"Many people like you cry crocodile tears for Hussain (ra) each year but when you're faced with injustice done by your own rulers/ayotollahs against a rival group then you support the injustice"

It's actually the other way around. Hussain and his group were massacred by the Muslim army on the orders of the Muslim Caliph. We Shias stand with oppressed against the oppressors. The oppressors are all sunni governments or Sunni militants. I talk on facts and you talk on grudge.

Iran has been oppressed since the revolution. First by saddam the Iraqi leader backed by the Arabs and the Americans and then by the international community all the way through. There has never been a level playing field for Iran. You know the facts and so do I.

"I will take your whatabouttery to mean that you support China's oppression of uighur Muslims"

Allow me to put this straight to you. Lets make the difference between you and me. I'm going to show who exactly you are and how different I am from you. And that will prove the foundation of your belief and mine. You started a thread on Iran and its support of China's oppression of uighur Muslims or Irans lack of condemnation. Why didn't you start a thread on Muslim countries/governments for their support of China's oppression of uighur Muslims or their lack of criticism and condemnation on China over it.

The difference between you and me is, I severely criticise and condemn China for its stance and behaviour towards the uighur Muslims along with those Muslim countries/governments, regardless of what belief and faith they hold in Islam, who either show support for China's oppression of uighur Muslims or lack in condemning China over it. You don't care about the uighur Muslims because you only use the situation to target Iran because of it being Shia. That's the difference between us and it comes from who we are and where we take our belief from.

"You can't bring yourself to condemn Iran/khamenei for supporting it so it's logical that you too support it"

You can't bring yourself to start a thread without mocking and attacking Iran. It's your grudge that speaks, not your honesty. You don't have honesty.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2019, 12:38:23 PM by iceman »

Adil

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2019, 03:45:37 PM »
That's the point, you don't need to condemn anybody for me or anyone out of grudge. Condemn someone or something who or what needs condemning.

"Sunnis are head and shoulders above shias in condemning tyranny"

This is exactly my point, show me where? When you say something or make a claim and I challenge you over it or ask for an explanation you come out with crap.

"It's about them you figured out whether you stand for Islam or whether you stand for whatever khamenei says or does"

You're the one who needs to figure out whether you stand for Islam or for what ever your grudge tells you. Because Islam and Muhammad s.a.w had no grudge against anyone even when they had the right to have and hold it, after the taking of mecca (After fateh e Mecca).

"Many people like you cry crocodile tears for Hussain (ra) each year but when you're faced with injustice done by your own rulers/ayotollahs against a rival group then you support the injustice"

It's actually the other way around. Hussain and his group were massacred by the Muslim army on the orders of the Muslim Caliph. We Shias stand with oppressed against the oppressors. The oppressors are all sunni governments or Sunni militants. I talk on facts and you talk on grudge.

Iran has been oppressed since the revolution. First by saddam the Iraqi leader backed by the Arabs and the Americans and then by the international community all the way through. There has never been a level playing field for Iran. You know the facts and so do I.

"I will take your whatabouttery to mean that you support China's oppression of uighur Muslims"

Allow me to put this straight to you. Lets make the difference between you and me. I'm going to show who exactly you are and how different I am from you. And that will prove the foundation of your belief and mine. You started a thread on Iran and its support of China's oppression of uighur Muslims or Irans lack of condemnation. Why didn't you start a thread on Muslim countries/governments for their support of China's oppression of uighur Muslims or their lack of criticism and condemnation on China over it.

The difference between you and me is, I severely criticise and condemn China for its stance and behaviour towards the uighur Muslims along with those Muslim countries/governments, regardless of what belief and faith they hold in Islam, who either show support for China's oppression of uighur Muslims or lack in condemning China over it. You don't care about the uighur Muslims because you only use the situation to target Iran because of it being Shia. That's the difference between us and it comes from who we are and where we take our belief from.

"You can't bring yourself to condemn Iran/khamenei for supporting it so it's logical that you too support it"

You can't bring yourself to start a thread without mocking and attacking Iran. It's your grudge that speaks, not your honesty. You don't have honesty.

So many words yet still no direct condemnation of Iran or the ayotollahs for supporting China. Is it so hard to type? But at least you're one step closer now that you've condemned China and the Muslim countries associated with it.

This is a website aimed at criticising shiaism. Of course most of the threads where countries are mentioned will be about Iran since they it is ruled by ayotollahs and is pretty much bent on a sunni genocide in the middle east.

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We Shias stand with oppressed against the oppressors. The oppressors are all sunni governments or Sunni militants. I talk on facts and you talk on grudge.

What you typed is not facts and is actually showing your grudge against sunnis lol.

Your first sentence is false because shias can be found supporting bashar al assad in extremely large numbers.

Your second sentence is false https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-mass-grave-isis-pmu-fallujah-amnesty-iran-a9247941.html shia militias killing innocent people is widespread. Recently they even turned their guns unto their fellow shia in the protests.

You talk with emotion, not facts.

I'm sorry but realistically, shias will support any oppressor as long as the oppressor favours the shias and shias will favour being oppressive if oppressing someone favours the shias. That is the cold hard truth. Historically, whenever twelver shiaism grows stronger, oppression of other Muslims tends to increase. And that's exactly the same today.

« Last Edit: December 20, 2019, 03:52:02 PM by Adil »

iceman

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2019, 04:49:09 AM »
So many words yet still no direct condemnation of Iran or the ayotollahs for supporting China. Is it so hard to type? But at least you're one step closer now that you've condemned China and the Muslim countries associated with it.

This is a website aimed at criticising shiaism. Of course most of the threads where countries are mentioned will be about Iran since they it is ruled by ayotollahs and is pretty much bent on a sunni genocide in the middle east.

What you typed is not facts and is actually showing your grudge against sunnis lol.

Your first sentence is false because shias can be found supporting bashar al assad in extremely large numbers.

Your second sentence is false https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-mass-grave-isis-pmu-fallujah-amnesty-iran-a9247941.html shia militias killing innocent people is widespread. Recently they even turned their guns unto their fellow shia in the protests.

You talk with emotion, not facts.

I'm sorry but realistically, shias will support any oppressor as long as the oppressor favours the shias and shias will favour being oppressive if oppressing someone favours the shias. That is the cold hard truth. Historically, whenever twelver shiaism grows stronger, oppression of other Muslims tends to increase. And that's exactly the same today.

"This is a website aimed at criticising shiaism"

And that exactly is propaganda. And I'm here to deal with it 😊

"I'm sorry but realistically"

Don't be sorry. You don't need to apologise for the malicious lies you put forward. We can deal with it. Well we've been dealing with it for nearly 1400 years. Nothings changed. Iran has every right to defend itself and its people against the Sunni killers. It needs to do something about these terror groups.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2019, 04:51:17 AM by iceman »

Khaled

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2019, 08:07:58 PM »
It's actually the other way around. Hussain and his group were massacred by the Muslim army on the orders of the Muslim Caliph. We Shias stand with oppressed against the oppressors.

سبحان الله, look at this Freudian Slip; he distinctly sees Shi'as as different from Muslims...
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Khaled

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2019, 08:23:00 PM »
What about the Saudi regime on china regarding the same issue 😊

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1UD36J&ved=2ahUKEwjor8-KzrzmAhVNURUIHSLWDJcQFjABegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw33pgEUcIo2FGqNiobAURpH&ampcf=1

Why is it always Iran for you. 😊

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/arab-states-give-china-a-pass-on-uyghur-crackdown&ved=2ahUKEwj09NmuzrzmAhU6XRUIHb6ZBKcQFjACegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1OsWQnhGBkXtRiPHCx3N61

May Allah curse Iran and Saudi Arabia until the Day of Judgement Ameen.  The Saudis, Wahhabis and the 12 Shias are the biggest cancer to this Ummah.

But just to repeat this same thing to you again, you do realize this is an anti-Shia website, why on earth do you think we would post criticisms of Saudi on here?  LOL, do you want posts criticizing Israel, Russia, China, and India on here too?  What a silly objection
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Adil

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2019, 11:58:00 PM »
سبحان الله, look at this Freudian Slip; he distinctly sees Shi'as as different from Muslims...

Nice catch. I didn't notice that. As if he said that.

iceman

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2019, 12:13:23 AM »
سبحان الله, look at this Freudian Slip; he distinctly sees Shi'as as different from Muslims...

I don't. Your kind see us differently. Shias are those who believe in Hussain and stood firm with him. It was the Muslims who killed him on the orders of the Islamic Caliphate. Either he gives allegiance or he is cut down. Those were the instructions given by Yazeed passed on by Ubaydallah to the Muslim army who cornered Hussain and his caravan at Karbala.I know this is hard for you and your kind to digest. But these are the facts. You keep on hiding either behind the Kufans or something other excuse. But your Caliphate was responsible for not just killing Hussain but many other things and attrocities since the seed was planted at Saqifa.

iceman

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2019, 12:14:31 AM »
Nice catch. I didn't notice that. As if he said that.

Why would you notice anything. You're too blinded by grudge. 😊
« Last Edit: December 24, 2019, 12:17:07 AM by iceman »

iceman

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2019, 12:24:14 AM »
May Allah curse Iran and Saudi Arabia until the Day of Judgement Ameen.  The Saudis, Wahhabis and the 12 Shias are the biggest cancer to this Ummah.

But just to repeat this same thing to you again, you do realize this is an anti-Shia website, why on earth do you think we would post criticisms of Saudi on here?  LOL, do you want posts criticizing Israel, Russia, China, and India on here too?  What a silly objection

I thought cursing wasn't your thing. 😊 If you curse then that's fine. If someone from our community does it then there's who haa from your side. Double standards  😊 The cancer in our Muslim community are those who see us and other Muslims different because we don't believe and think like them or according to them. The cancer in our Muslim community is those who go out and commit terror offences in the name of Islam. I'm not asking you to criticise Saudi or any other country or government. I don't know where you got that from. 😊

I'm an honest, truthful and straightforward person. 😊 What's the title of this thread?

"Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim"

The Saudis have done it, no objection. Other Muslim countries and gulf states have done it, no objection there. When and where did Iran do it? And if they protect and put first their country, economy and people by looking after international ties then there's a problem. Double standards 😊
« Last Edit: December 24, 2019, 12:31:27 AM by iceman »

muslim720

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2019, 01:31:00 AM »
I'm pretty sure we have already condemned Saudi Arabia multiple times on this forum for you.

Does not matter how many times we condemn, and distance ourselves from, Saudi Arabia.  These Shias will not accept anything short of the collapse of the Saudi regime thereby pitting the Two Holy Mosques in the mess that we see in Iraq, Libya and Syria.  They have no shame and certainly no spine. 

I have frequented their mosques over the years and the amount of effort they put in mentioning "Saudi Arabia", "Zionism", "Muawiya", "Yazeed", etc, is no joke.  If only they had remembered Allah (swt) instead, maybe He would have pardoned them for their continuous sin of cursing the Companions (ra).
"Our coward ran from those in authority" - Iceman (admitting the truth regarding his 12th Imam)

Khaled

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2019, 03:22:08 AM »
I don't. Your kind see us differently.

Whose "my kind"?  Do you realize how you sound by referring to every single non-Shi'a as "kind" and then accuse us of partisanship?

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Shias are those who believe in Hussain and stood firm with him.

Well that wasn't any of the famous Shi'as, so... lol.  ِA group of Muslims were with Hussayn عليه السلام ورضي الله عنه and a group of Muslims were with Yazeed, and the rest of the Muslims had nothing to do with it.  There were no 12er Shi'as around at the time, and therefore, this is not a Sunni/Shia issue.

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It was the Muslims who killed him on the orders of the Islamic Caliphate. Either he gives allegiance or he is cut down. Those were the instructions given by Yazeed passed on by Ubaydallah to the Muslim army who cornered Hussain and his caravan at Karbala.I know this is hard for you and your kind to digest. But these are the facts. You keep on hiding either behind the Kufans or something other excuse. But your Caliphate was responsible for not just killing Hussain but many other things and attrocities since the seed was planted at Saqifa.

Imam Hussayn عليه السلام ورضي الله عنه is my Imam, not Yazeed.  Yazeed was the Caliph, but Imam Hussayn عليه السلام ورضي الله عنه is my role model.  I speak out against injustices whether it is done by "my kind" or not, and while I have nothing to do with the Saudis or the Wahhabi belief, I still condemn them to show you that you are as far away and as detached as possible to the message of Imam Hussayn عليه السلام ورضي الله عنه and his Blessed Grandfather عليه أفضل الصلاة وأتم التسليم when speaking out against injustices.

Yazeed, the Saudis, the current Iranian government, the current Syrian government are all oppressors and must be condemned for selling out the Muslims.  It doesn't matter if they are Sunni, Shi'a, or my mother and father for that matter!
« Last Edit: December 24, 2019, 03:25:50 AM by Khaled »
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Khaled

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2019, 03:39:10 AM »
I thought cursing wasn't your thing. 😊 If you curse then that's fine.

All Muslims curse, as we do in Surat al-Lahab, its whether its my day to day practice like, unfortunately, Shi'asm teaches you.

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If someone from our community does it then there's who haa from your side.

I've told you SEVERAL times that you don't know me and that, outside this site, my main point of criticism is Saudi Arabia.  I donated a lot of money and one of the biggest critics of them regarding what they are doing in Yemen.  In fact, I sincerely believe that if I had an opportunity to make Hajj or Umrah right now I wouldn't do it.

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The cancer in our Muslim community are those who see us and other Muslims different because we don't believe and think like them or according to them.

Exactly, Wahhabis and Shias.

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The cancer in our Muslim community is those who go out and commit terror offences in the name of Islam

Exactly, the Khawarij and the Shi'as are always committing terror and killing Muslims in the name of their religion.

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I'm not asking you to criticise Saudi or any other country or government. I don't know where you got that from. 😊

LOL, dude...

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I'm an honest, truthful and straightforward person. 😊 What's the title of this thread?

"Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim"

The Saudis have done it, no objection. Other Muslim countries and gulf states have done it, no objection there. When and where did Iran do it? And if they protect and put first their country, economy and people by looking after international ties then there's a problem. Double standards 😊

We are objecting to it and we condemn it, it is YOU who only criticizes the Saudis for doing it while turning a blind eye to Iran doing it.  It is YOU with double standards and it is YOU who justifies the killing of Muslims.

Dude... you can't be this dense... you HAVE to be a Sunni pretending to be Shi'i to make them look bad.
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

iceman

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2019, 04:27:39 AM »
All Muslims curse, as we do in Surat al-Lahab, its whether its my day to day practice like, unfortunately, Shi'asm teaches you.

I've told you SEVERAL times that you don't know me and that, outside this site, my main point of criticism is Saudi Arabia.  I donated a lot of money and one of the biggest critics of them regarding what they are doing in Yemen.  In fact, I sincerely believe that if I had an opportunity to make Hajj or Umrah right now I wouldn't do it.

Exactly, Wahhabis and Shias.

Exactly, the Khawarij and the Shi'as are always committing terror and killing Muslims in the name of their religion.

LOL, dude...

We are objecting to it and we condemn it, it is YOU who only criticizes the Saudis for doing it while turning a blind eye to Iran doing it.  It is YOU with double standards and it is YOU who justifies the killing of Muslims.

Dude... you can't be this dense... you HAVE to be a Sunni pretending to be Shi'i to make them look bad.

"All Muslims curse, as we do in Surat al-Lahab, its whether its my day to day practice like, unfortunately, Shi'asm teaches you"

All Muslims curse? So what seems to be the problem with some Shias cursing. Why is that painful for some on your side. If Shiaism teaches me then where have you seen me curse? 😊 You love to say and come out with things but can't explain or back anything when put on the spot.

"I've told you SEVERAL times that you don't know me"

When did I say I knew you? You don't know me either. So why don't you stick to that than accusing me of this that and the other.

"and that, outside this site, my main point of criticism is Saudi Arabia"

I don't know anything outside this site about any of you. So what goes on with you outside and away from this site isn't relevant and doesn't concern me. The way I see you here is how I'm going to take you. How you represent yourself here is exactly how you are. And if you're really and truly honest then show it.

"Exactly, Wahhabis and Shias"

Don't associate us with them. And Wahabis? Allow me to correct you, Sunni Wahabis. They are a sect of Sunnis.

"Exactly, the Khawarij and the Shi'as are always committing terror and killing Muslims in the name of their religion"

Allow me to correct you again. The Sunni extremists are killing Shias and have been doing so for 1400 years. And those Sunnis  who differ with them along with non Muslims in the name of their religion.

"We are objecting to it and we condemn it,

Ok, show me where on threads you've openly criticised the Saudis on any matter without me pointing it out.

"it is YOU who only criticizes the Saudis for doing it"

When and where have you seen me starting a thread on the criticism of the saudis. Where have you seen me curse any of the companions or wives of the Prophet s.a.w. And you know me? And you tell me what Shiaism teaches me? What do you know about Shiaism? Absolutely nothing.

"while turning a blind eye to Iran doing it"

What blind eye? What is Iran doing.

:It is YOU with double standards"

Your faith and belief is absolutely full of it. You're neither here nor there. You don't have principles and follow them..You make them as you go along.

"and it is YOU who justifies the killing of Muslims"

Where and when have I justified the killings of anyone let alone Muslims. I didn't order the killings of not just Muslims but companions of the Prophet s.a.w because they refused to hand over the Zakah money to me or to the treasury. Read the history of either your ansectors or the ones you so believe in and follow.

iceman

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2019, 04:51:21 AM »
Does not matter how many times we condemn, and distance ourselves from, Saudi Arabia.  These Shias will not accept anything short of the collapse of the Saudi regime thereby pitting the Two Holy Mosques in the mess that we see in Iraq, Libya and Syria.  They have no shame and certainly no spine. 

I have frequented their mosques over the years and the amount of effort they put in mentioning "Saudi Arabia", "Zionism", "Muawiya", "Yazeed", etc, is no joke.  If only they had remembered Allah (swt) instead, maybe He would have pardoned them for their continuous sin of cursing the Companions (ra).

"Does not matter how many times we condemn, and distance ourselves from, Saudi Arabia"

First of all don't criticise anyone because of me because I pushed you and you had to do it out of shame.

You have never bothered to criticise and condemn anyone. Iran and Syria have been your only focus. Because you're prejudice towards them. Then Iraq since the fall of Saddam. The Shias didn't get rid of Saddam the west did by the help of the saudis and the gulf states.

"These Shias will not accept anything short of the collapse of the Saudi regime"

We're not prejudice towards anyone let alone the Saudis.Otherwise Iran had the opportunity to help the west get rid of Saddam but they didn't and took no part in the Iraq war. The collapse of the Saudi regime will bring nothing bit turmoil in Saudi Arabia. Just like the mess in Iraq, Libya and in Syria by trying to topple Assad. I don't favour the topple of any Muslim regime. You want to see Iran and Syria fall. The way you are is how you see and judge others. You have no shame and certainly no spine. 

"I have frequented their mosques over the years"

You haven't been to any Shia mosque. Just a tactic played by you. The things you put forward in the name of experience about Shia mosques doesn't add up or make any sense since I'm a Shia and from that community. I know where you're lying.

"and the amount of effort they put in mentioning "Saudi Arabia", "Zionism", "Muawiya", "Yazeed", etc, is no joke"

That amount of effort is nothing compared to the amount of effort you put in slandering and undermining us. At least you didn't say "the amount of effort we put in mentioning Sunnis in a negative way".

"If only they had remembered Allah"

How much do you remember Allah? Show me on this site. If only you remembered Allah then he would have emptied and pured your blackened heart from the prejudice within.

"sin of cursing the Companions"

What about killing the companions? What level of sin would that be 😊

Adil

Re: Iran defends China's oppression of Uighur Muslim
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2019, 03:51:57 PM »
Why would you notice anything. You're too blinded by grudge. 😊

With you bro, I don't need to hold a grudge. You benefit the Muslims so much with your words. If Allah does not guide you then I pray he makes you a spokesperson for the shias.

 

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