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Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2015, 04:30:05 PM »
It's obvious that you wouldn't get it or accept it when, Shiaism or Shias are concerned and you wouldn't admitt and mention it when, Sunnism and the Sunnis are concerned.

You see and view everything through your hatred and grudge towards Shiaism and the Shias.

Hafiz Al Assad and Bashar Al Assad, is that all you see and mention when it comes to butchers???

What about all the other butchers??? Al e Saood, Bahrain government and all the rest of them???   

Hani

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2015, 04:49:15 PM »
How long has Assad been in power??? What, he started to butcher his people now??? Why not early on or before??? Butchering your own people puts you in a bad position and this is a risk that Assad wouldn't take when you are at odds with the west and its allies.

If you are a friend and ally to the west then you can butcher your own people and the west will turn a blind eye like the governments of Bahrain, Yemen before over thrown and Saddam when he was a puppet of the west.

Using your same simplistic logic and applying it to your own beliefs:

Well then Yazid never killed Husayn, as that would put him in a bad light so he can't have possibly done it, Shiites of Husayn must have killed him and blamed it on Yazid as propaganda right? Also Mu`awiyah never killed al-Hasan, since al-Hasan died ten years after Mu`awiyah was in authority, so didn't he kill him earlier if he wanted to? It must also be Hasan's Shiites that killed him and blamed it on Mu`awiyah as propaganda.

I said and I repeat, if any dictator can have things his way peacefully he wouldn't mind, if Hitler could occupy Europe peacefully he wouldn't want to use violence and give himself a headache. Similarly, the Asad family that was ruling since the 1970s until today, they would only commit massacres when they face political resistance, such as the war of the camps in Lebanon where Asad's army and militias butchered the Palestinians. So now people protest against an oppressive military and sectarian regime, what's the regime's response? Terrorism, they kill and torture and threaten protesters to make them stop, and they kill and threaten and torture other civilians to force them to protest in support of Asad on TV. Hard to believe right?

Then you mention Bahrayn? Can you compare how many people died in Bahrayn as opposed to how many died in Syria?

I quote from a wikipedia page for the Bahrayni revolution:

"The BICI report finds the government responsible for 20 deaths (November 2011). Opposition activists say that the current number is about 78 including 34 who allegedly died as a result of excessive use of tear gas."

Oh wow, what a great massacre, poor Shiites... Horrible use of tear gas I must say.

Now let's quote the Syrian revolution's deaths from their wikipedia page:

"Estimates of deaths in the conflict vary widely, with figures, per opposition activist groups, ranging from 131,235 and 300,518.
On 20 August 2014, a new U.N. study concludes at least 191,369 people have died in Syrian conflict."

Ouch! I doubt this was a result of tear gas, must be something else... like chemical weapons, barrel bombs and artillery shelling... Similar to Bahrayn right???

So the equation of terror and violence is as follows:

Bahrayn with around 80 deaths VS Syria with around 200,000 deaths.

Does it really show that Asad is afraid of the "west" since he has Chinese and Russian support in addition to military support from the Iranian armies and militias in the region who fight and die on his behalf? The "west" only acted seriously towards him when there were suspicions of biological weapons being used, and this ended up in a peaceful deal between Syria and the "west" where Asad promised to discard his chemical weapons.

Think about it, the "west" took out Saddam without any legitimate evidence, do you think it's really hard for the west to use anything the Syrian regime does as an excuse to bomb it?

Also it's you who are sectarian and blind, we supported the Libyan revolution, the Tunisian revolution and the Egyptian revolution, do you see any Shia there? So stop assuming that Shiites are the main factor when it comes to people's political stances.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2015, 06:52:58 PM by Hani »
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Khaled

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2015, 06:41:29 PM »
You see and view everything through your hatred and grudge towards Shiaism and the Shias.

You see everything through your hatred and grudge towards people that died 1400 years ago...
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2015, 12:24:06 AM »
You see and view everything through your hatred and grudge towards Shiaism and the Shias.

You see everything through your hatred and grudge towards people that died 1400 years ago...

Can you back this up??? Give me a reason for this.

Khaled

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2015, 12:26:09 AM »
You see and view everything through your hatred and grudge towards Shiaism and the Shias.

You see everything through your hatred and grudge towards people that died 1400 years ago...

Can you back this up??? Give me a reason for this.

Can you back the claim you made??? LOL
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2015, 01:22:53 AM »
Brother Hani, you said,

"Well then Yazid never killed Husayn, as that would put him in a bad light so he can't have possibly done it"

Why would this put him in a bad light??? Try convincing the Ahle Sunnah that he didn't do it. It's a silly example that you've given, but there you go.

You said,

"Shiites of Husayn must have killed him and blamed it on Yazid as propaganda",

Why would his own Shia kill him??? And why would they blame it on Yazeed??? What would this achieve??? Propaganda on what basis???

The same questions arise on your second example concerning Hassan and Muavia. If you want to put something forward, by all means do but give some reason and logic to it.

Your next point, the Assad family. My question, why only the Assad family??? What about the other Arab dictators??? Why don't you mention them???

If you spoke about dictators and mentioned the Assad family then, this would be understandable. But you are not talking about dictators, only cherry picking those who have a concern with Shiaism. This is evidence that you speak on the basis of holding a grudge about Shiaism and with the Shias.

You said,

"Then you mention Bahrayn? Can you compare how many people died in Bahrayn as opposed to how many died in Syria?",

The situation and circumstances concerning Syria and Bahrain are different. Don't you look in to and consider things???

SYRIA,

An ally and friend of Iran. A supporter and friend of Hizbullah and Hammas. A threat to Israel and a growing regional power. This is what Syria was and this bothered the Americans. You had an popular uprising in Syria which was an opportunity for the Americans to get rid of the Assad regime.

This popular uprising was suddenly hijacked by the Americans and their Arab allies who sent in terrorists to topple the regime. These terrorists were supported and backed by America and its allies, with the excuse that Assad is killing his own people.

As soon as the terrorists moved in people distanced themselves and would not join these terrorists and take up arms against the government. This is not what people wanted. So the terrorists started killing people just as I.S.I.S in Iraq is doing, killing those who do not join them.

Is the Iraqi prime minister killing people or I.S.I.S. in Iraq??? The same is happening in Syria. Who is fighting the government in Syria and where are they getting finance and weapons from??? Who is supporting and backing these terrorists???

In Bahrain there are less deaths, why??? Because there was a popular uprising from and by the people. No one took up arms against the Bahrain government. And terrorists did not get involved here, otherwise there would have been more casualties.

This is your answer. The situation of Bahrain is different from Syria, this is why there is a difference in casualties, because there is a difference in conflict.

You said,

"Oh wow, what a great massacre, poor Shiites... Horrible use of tear gas I must say",

Is this some kind of joke??? You find this really funny??? Casualties are casualties and deaths are deaths, it doesn't matter who they are. But like I said that you speak with grudge and hatred towards Shiaism and the Shias. And I am putting evidence forward for this time and time again.

You said,

"Bahrayn with around 80 deaths VS Syria with around 200,000 deaths",

Bro the situation of Bahrain and Syria is completely different. There was no conflict in Bahrain, just protests. No one took up arms against the Bahrain government and no terror group moved in to Bahrain. Otherwise the situation would have been different.

Syria, just Bashar Al Assad is to blame??? What about I.S.I.S. and the torturing of holy shrines??? You haven't mentioned the killings in Iraq by I.S.I.S.??? You haven't said a word. If Iran is backing and supporting the Houthis then why didn't Iran back and support the Bahraini people??? Why didn't Iran get involved here???

The Americans and its Arab allies were waiting for this excuse, so they could take Iran on. But Iran knew their game and certainly knows their game. The Americans want the Arabs to deal with Iran by striking it, rather than Israel. But the Arab world is either daft and stupid or it just doesn't care about Islam and the Muslims.

You said,

"Does it really show that Asad is afraid of the "west" since he has Chinese and Russian support in addition to military support from the Iranian armies and militias in the region who fight and die on his behalf? The "west" only acted seriously towards him when there were suspicions of biological weapons being used, and this ended up in a peaceful deal between Syria and the "west" where Asad promised to discard his chemical weapons",

Bro the Chinese and Russians do not support Syria but oppose the western agenda about the East and Asia. The world has seen Afghanistan, Iraq and Libiya. And the world knew Syria and Iran are next. This is where the Chinese opposed and the Russians directly challenged the Americans over Syria and have warned regarding Iran.

You said,

"Think about it, the "west" took out Saddam without any legitimate evidence, do you think it's really hard for the west to use anything the Syrian regime does as an excuse to bomb it?",

The Americans didn't directly get involved in Syria. They most certainly wanted to but this is what kept them, the Chinese opposing them and the Russians threatening that, any American interference and intervention in Syria then, the Russians will directly get involved themselves.

This is exactly what scared the Americans!
« Last Edit: April 04, 2015, 01:35:08 AM by Ameen »

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2015, 01:33:08 AM »
You see and view everything through your hatred and grudge towards Shiaism and the Shias.

You see everything through your hatred and grudge towards people that died 1400 years ago...

Can you back this up??? Give me a reason for this.

Can you back the claim you made??? LOL

Rather than answering and then asking, you love to hide behind asking instead of answering. Wow!

Now the answer to your question, which you are scared to do,

You hold a grudge against Shiasm and the Shias. Here is the back up,

Why a thread on Iran only??? Why the negativity about Iran??? Is there nothing positive about Iran??? Why not a thread about other countries and their governments??? Why speak out against the Iraq government now??? why not when Saddam was in power??? Why only mention the Assads as dictators??? What about the other Arab dictators??? Why??? You are obviously to scared to answer, so let me do it for you.

Why??? Because the governments of Iran, Iraq and Syria are Shia or linked to Shias. start hopping and skipping now, from one place to the other.

Furkan

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2015, 01:44:14 AM »
I hate shiasm and I have a grudge against it. So what now? Call me a nasibi?
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

Khaled

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2015, 01:46:10 AM »
You see and view everything through your hatred and grudge towards Shiaism and the Shias.

You see everything through your hatred and grudge towards people that died 1400 years ago...

Can you back this up??? Give me a reason for this.

Can you back the claim you made??? LOL

Rather than answering and then asking, you love to hide behind asking instead of answering. Wow!

Now the answer to your question, which you are scared to do,

You hold a grudge against Shiasm and the Shias. Here is the back up,

Why a thread on Iran only??? Why the negativity about Iran??? Is there nothing positive about Iran??? Why not a thread about other countries and their governments??? Why speak out against the Iraq government now??? why not when Saddam was in power??? Why only mention the Assads as dictators??? What about the other Arab dictators??? Why??? You are obviously to scared to answer, so let me do it for you.

Why??? Because the governments of Iran, Iraq and Syria are Shia or linked to Shias. start hopping and skipping now, from one place to the other.

Because this is an anti-12er site, we already discussed this like 3 or 4 times; why would we have an anti-Saudi thread on anti-12 site.  The reality is very simple, Sunnis constantly criticize the Saudis/Jordanians/Egyptians, but the Shi'as NEVER criticize Iran; this is hypocrisy that you guys dwell in.
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2015, 01:48:43 AM »
Brother Hani, this is what you said at the end,

"Also it's you who are sectarian and blind, we supported the Libyan revolution, the Tunisian revolution and the Egyptian revolution, do you see any Shia there? So stop assuming that Shiites are the main factor when it comes to people's political stances",

Did you mention and declare about your support for theses revolutions??? May be you did and I missed it. When it comes to you and your kind, Shiaism is the main factor concerning anything and everything. Start a thread on other Arab dictators just as the Assads and the Arab league countries just as Iran then, we have something. Otherwise you are exposed.

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2015, 01:51:39 AM »
I hate shiasm and I have a grudge against it. So what now? Call me a nasibi?

LOL. I know you can't do better than this. So what now??? Here is your answer, carry on grudging! Get and keep on with it. This is all I and the people care about you and your kind.

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2015, 02:01:15 AM »
Brother Khaled, you said,

"reality is very simple, Sunnis constantly criticize the Saudis/Jordanians/Egyptians",

And where have you exactly done this??? Show me the thread.

You said,

"but the Shi'as NEVER criticise Iran",

There are various groups and factions with in Iran. They criticise and condemn each other. Some Ayatullahs are extremists and some are modest. They even criticise and condemn each other, have even have difference in thought, opinion and point of view. Which world are you living in???? Come on, you can do better than this, can't you???

Khaled

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2015, 02:04:19 AM »
Did you mention and declare about your support for theses revolutions??? May be you did and I missed it. When it comes to you and your kind, Shiaism is the main factor concerning anything and everything. Start a thread on other Arab dictators just as the Assads and the Arab league countries just as Iran then, we have something. Otherwise you are exposed.

What is "his kind"?

Why would he declare his support for the anti-Lybian revolution from THREE FOUR YEARS AGO on a recent site dedicated to anti-Shia polemics???? Come on??? I know you can do better....
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Hadrami

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2015, 02:04:36 AM »
Blind shia thinks US see Iran's as their biggest threat? US knows very well now that Iran won't hurt them. That is why US policy from the last 25 years in the middle east have benefited Iran.

US has:
- removed Iran's biggest threat, Saddam
- funded, supported and trained Shia-centric government of Iraq creating new close ally for Iran
- didn't put shia militia which have been terrorising Iraqi Sunni in terrorist organisation list
- removed Hizbul lat & Iran from list of organisation/country which are considered threat to US
- let Iran have their nuclear program while Iraq was embargoed then invaded for something less
- etc

In conclusion, while shia see Iran is US' biggest threat, US think of Iran & Shia govt as more of annoyance not threats worthy to be destroyed. US know Iran's army won't & have never shot a single bullet at them anyway. Even the safawi dynasty was known as "ummah which does not join the jihad". Don't worry, it is in US interest to keep Iran status quo. That way US can keep benefiting from billion $$$$ weapon contracts with all those kingdoms.

Hani

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2015, 02:04:54 AM »
In reply to your long useless post,


You asked why would Yazid killing Husayn put him in bad light? I say: Gee I dunno, could be something to do with him being the grandson of the Prophet (saw).



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Why would his own Shia kill him??? And why would they blame it on Yazeed??? What would this achieve??? Propaganda on what basis???


See exactly!! You proved my point, your logic makes no sense, as you can see when I used ti against you.. you started asking questions just like above ^ So please don't bother us with this Asad no massacring his people nonsense because he feared for his "image" and didn't wish to be in a bad light, nor blame the protesters of making up propaganda against Asad, he's not innocent mate.



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Your next point, the Assad family. My question, why only the Assad family??? What about the other Arab dictators??? Why don't you mention them???


We always mentioned them, but those revolutions ended quite some time ago, now there's still the Syrian revolution and its the bloodiest one of all. I think we should mention it and not turn a blind eye to it, right?


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An ally and friend of Iran. A supporter and friend of Hizbullah and Hammas. A threat to Israel and a growing regional power. This is what Syria was and this bothered the Americans. You had an popular uprising in Syria which was an opportunity for the Americans to get rid of the Assad regime.


Hahaha... Yeah Asad is such a threat that since he became "king" of Syria he never laid a hand on Israel, wow real threat. Heck he prohibited any act of resistance from Syrian territories against Israel, not ONE Palestinian organisation is allowed to launch an offensive against Israel from Syrian land, Asad would massacre those who do this. Besides you say Asad is the ally of Hamas, didn't you hear that Hamas supports the revolution against Asad and condemn the regime's atrocities? Great allies you have there.



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This popular uprising was suddenly hijacked by the Americans and their Arab allies who sent in terrorists to topple the regime. These terrorists were supported and backed by America and its allies, with the excuse that Assad is killing his own people.


No, these terrorists are currently being bombed by America and its allies. The ones behind these terrorists are the Syrian regime who allowed them to roam free in Raqqah FOR TWO YEARS while the regime bombarded the moderate opposition factions, leaving this cancer called "ISIS" to grow, then threatening all surrounding nations that if their regime falls "ISIS" will dominate and threaten Israel and Saudi. ISIS of course went out of control and the regime itself invited the west to help them fight-off ISIS.



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Is the Iraqi prime minister killing people or I.S.I.S. in Iraq??? The same is happening in Syria. Who is fighting the government in Syria and where are they getting finance and weapons from??? Who is supporting and backing these terrorists???


Both are killing people because both are filthy scum. As for financing, don't worry about that, Syria and Iraq being in such a chaotic condition there's a lot of banks, oil fields and weapons storage facilities to loot.



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In Bahrain there are less deaths, why??? Because there was a popular uprising from and by the people. No one took up arms against the Bahrain government. And terrorists did not get involved here, otherwise there would have been more casualties.


Great, so you just answered yourself. Bahrain never massacred its people like the Syrian regime massacred its people, that's why the numbers are low.


Taken from the revolution's wiki page:


"The unrest began in the early spring of 2011 within the context of Arab Spring protests, with nationwide protests against President Bashar al-Assad's government, whose forces responded with violent crackdowns. The conflict gradually morphed from prominent protests to an armed rebellion after months of military sieges."


Meaning, there's a consensus among all followers, the Syrian revolution began peacefully, violent crackdowns are what led to people fighting back, and a prolonged struggle is what led to violent groups being formed.



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Syria, just Bashar Al Assad is to blame??? What about I.S.I.S. and the torturing of holy shrines??? You haven't mentioned the killings in Iraq by I.S.I.S. ??? You haven't said a word. If Iran is backing and supporting the Houthis then why didn't Iran back and support the Bahraini people??? Why didn't Iran get involved here???


Only a deranged individual such as yourself does not know that every single member of this forum condemns ISIS. But you view only what you wish to view, selective retention. Besides we're talking about people dying, who gives a damn about some fake temples and dumb shrines.



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Bro the Chinese and Russians do not support Syria but oppose the western agenda about the East and Asia. The world has seen Afghanistan, Iraq and Libiya. And the world knew Syria and Iran are next. This is where the Chinese opposed and the Russians directly challenged the Americans over Syria and have warned regarding Iran.


Doesn't matter what the reasons are, fact is they have support from Russia and China, making their position very solid internationally, they're covered by Veto. Therefore, they continue violently in their path to destroy all those who oppose them without caring about consequences.



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The Americans didn't directly get involved in Syria. They most certainly wanted to but this is what kept them, the Chinese opposing them and the Russians threatening that, any American interference and intervention in Syria then, the Russians will directly get involved themselves.


Dunno if you heard, but Americans are currently BOMBING Syrian territories directly. As for Russia, it most probably won't do anything if Syria is bombed, remember the biological weapons mess? When the US sent military fleets to the region to pressure Bachar, and everyone thought a war was going to break-out, suddenly Russia and Iran backed down and were simply reduced to "condemning" the hasty American decision, no one wanted to defend Syria when sh*t got real.














عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Khaled

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2015, 02:09:41 AM »
Brother Khaled, you said,

"reality is very simple, Sunnis constantly criticize the Saudis/Jordanians/Egyptians",

And where have you exactly done this??? Show me the thread.

You said,

"but the Shi'as NEVER criticise Iran",

There are various groups and factions with in Iran. They criticise and condemn each other. Some Ayatullahs are extremists and some are modest. They even criticise and condemn each other, have even have difference in thought, opinion and point of view. Which world are you living in???? Come on, you can do better than this, can't you???

Again, for the millionth time; WHY WOULD I CRITICIZE SECULAR GOVERNMENT RULING MUSLIM COUNTRIES ON AN ANTI-SHIA POLEMICS SITE??  We already do that on forums and places where that would be relevant.  I know you can do better than this, can't you???

There are various groups and factions in the Muslim world. They criticise and condemn each other. The Khawaarij amongst them are extremists while our scholars are modest. They even criticise and condemn each other, have even have difference in thought, opinion and point of view. Which world are you living in???? Come on, you can do better than this, can't you???
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Hani

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #76 on: April 04, 2015, 02:43:58 AM »
It seems after Iranian general Sulaymani and the Shiite militias failed in liberating Tikrit and ran into a wall, after Sulaymani withdrew, the Iraqi Haydar `Abadi officially asked USA to help the Iraqi army liberate Tikrit, which they did and now it's liberated.

What a beautiful alliance Haha... "Hayhat minna al-Dhillah" : p

Iraqi generals say the US airforce did a 115 airstrikes on Tikrit which "greatly helped" destroy ISIS.

But when the US politically approves of the Saudi offensive against Houthi rebels, they suddenly become enemies of the nation etc..ect...  What a bunch of hypocrites these Iranian stooges.

Then after al-`Abadi and the Iraqi generals praise the US for its help, we go back to what lies were being spread on Shiite TV channels during the battle, and the lying scum were accusing the united states of offering ISIS military aid and bombing the positions of the Shiite militias to slow them down :p
« Last Edit: April 04, 2015, 02:50:02 AM by Hani »
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2015, 09:35:04 AM »
Did you mention and declare about your support for theses revolutions??? May be you did and I missed it. When it comes to you and your kind, Shiaism is the main factor concerning anything and everything. Start a thread on other Arab dictators just as the Assads and the Arab league countries just as Iran then, we have something. Otherwise you are exposed.

What is "his kind"?

Why would he declare his support for the anti-Lybian revolution from THREE FOUR YEARS AGO on a recent site dedicated to anti-Shia polemics???? Come on??? I know you can do better....

Why don't you stick to the conversation you were having with me. Then by all means move on to this or anything else. It's always "Shia this or Shia that" when it comes to you. Well your life does evolve around this.

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #78 on: April 04, 2015, 10:13:31 AM »
Blind shia thinks US see Iran's as their biggest threat? US knows very well now that Iran won't hurt them. That is why US policy from the last 25 years in the middle east have benefited Iran.

US has:
- removed Iran's biggest threat, Saddam
- funded, supported and trained Shia-centric government of Iraq creating new close ally for Iran
- didn't put shia militia which have been terrorising Iraqi Sunni in terrorist organisation list
- removed Hizbul lat & Iran from list of organisation/country which are considered threat to US
- let Iran have their nuclear program while Iraq was embargoed then invaded for something less
- etc

In conclusion, while shia see Iran is US' biggest threat, US think of Iran & Shia govt as more of annoyance not threats worthy to be destroyed. US know Iran's army won't & have never shot a single bullet at them anyway. Even the safawi dynasty was known as "ummah which does not join the jihad". Don't worry, it is in US interest to keep Iran status quo. That way US can keep benefiting from billion $$$$ weapon contracts with all those kingdoms.

Either you are not familiar with reality and facts or you just don't give a damn. It's either one or the other. The USA didn't remove Iran's biggest threat, they removed Israel and Arab league's biggest threat. They removed America's allies biggest threat.

When Saddam became Iran's biggest threat, when it attacked Iran by the intention of invading it, America and its allies backed and supported Saddam for eight years my friend, for eight whole years. They stopped when they knew it wouldn't be possible to invade Iran.

In Iraq you have a mixed government and a government that came by fair and free elections. Try to shake off this Shia fever and make your life a lot easier by bringing it in to everything and start to see things a bit more clearer.

In Iraq they are dealing with a common threat, a common disease and that is I.S.I.S. You talk about funding and supporting groups, well America and its Arab allies funded and supported the Taliban in Afghanistan and Sipa e Sahaba in Pakistan, just to cause tension and make life difficult for Iran.

Just as they got rid of Saddam when he became a threat to them and their allies, they decided to get rid of the Afghan Taliban government when it became a threat to them.

No Shia militias have ever threatened any Sunnis, never mind about Iraqi Sunni. This has never been the way of Shias and never will. This is something you know but don't want to admit. It's you who are engaged in this sectarian nonsense and division. The Shias see things through a broader picture.

Why has America removed Hizbullah and Iran from the threat list, because they are engaged in discussion with Iran about its nuclear programme. The Obama admin wants to settle this without conflict. This is their aim and you give and take in such matters. It's called "negotiations". The Americans are only working towards their aim, goal and interest. So don't think they are doing Iran any favours.

If the Iranians haven't fired a single shot at America, the Americans also haven't fired a single shot at Iran. It's because of those Arab kingdoms that Americans are benefiting billions of dollars, not because of Iran. Take a look at Yemen, the world knew this was a hot bed for Alqaidah militants and this is where their training camps are. The Yemenies government was over thrown and America and the Arab league feared that Yemen would fall in to the hands of the terrorists, who would definitely threaten them and hold them at ransom by blocking the oil route.

This is where the Americans used Iran as an excuse to fool the Arab league and they got fooled and fell in to the trap. Alqaidah, Taliban, I.S.I.S., Sipa e Sahaba, Lashkar e Janghavi etc are not only enemies of Iran but also the west. And the west most certainly knows this.

The operation in Yemen is not because of Iran's involvement but because their own feet are about to burn. They are saving themselves by operating in Yemen against Alqaidah by using the name "Houthis" and Iran as an excuse.

Ameen

Re: Saudia Arabia stands against Shi'ite rebels
« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2015, 10:34:35 AM »
My dear brother Hani, what do we have here???

Here we have an immature response. Or the word "useless" exactly fits here. But you have to try and keep up the confrontational stance, don't you??? The Bahrain government massacred less people because there was no conflict, there was no civil war and no terror group was involved. No one took up arms against the Bahrain government and Iran did not support the people with such sick backing and support. This tells you the greatness of Iran and how civilised the Bahrain public is. I know you are finding this hard to digest. Why didn't any terror group get involved here??? Because they are backed and supported by these filthy rich kingdoms. So they are not going to bite the hand that funds and feeds them.

Your entire post is full of twists and turns but hey, I know you are struggling here. Just open your eyes and stick to and stand by unity amongst Muslims (Etihad bainal Muslimeen), which the Arab kingdoms and your ideology is threatening.



















 

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