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Title: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Farid on April 07, 2017, 06:17:20 AM
Discuss.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: MuslimAnswers on April 07, 2017, 07:47:32 AM
Salam Alaykum,

Unless if there is a concerted effort to remove the infrastructure of Al-Assad which leads through all major Shia strongholds in the Levant, Iraq and Iran, not much will ever change. As long as any opposition to this infrastructure is seen as 'Yazid' and Mr. Putin and Al-Assad are seen as the current-day 'Imam Hussain', there is a much bigger need than firing a few missiles.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 07, 2017, 10:10:18 AM
Subhanallah

Ok trump don't like the guy not very intelligent but I am confused to his 180 degree turnaround it's baffling really, he trump said "he saw beautiful babies dying" he saw the suffering of the effect of chemical attack it hit his conscience, hopefully a more saner president will eventually emerge

As for Assad, Iran and Russia it will stop them from making more bombings and killing innocents at least now they are as surprised as the world of the American retaliation

That being said I think the underline is Russia and Iran well Iran to be more precise, trump has hate for Iran and has been saying the biggest sponsor of terror is Iran

That one babies scream was heard in heavens and even touched a kafir president that retaliated because of it

Russia is confused Iran is fearful bang goes the Shiite crescent and hezbullah Shiite militias
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: MuslimAnswers on April 07, 2017, 10:48:41 AM
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The Russian connection is actually weak, it is the Twelvers who are totally invested in getting their 'Crescent' into full operation and they will take any and every ally they can in trying to achieve their goals. It is actually our (Sunni) failure to make the world powers understand this and mobilize quickly enough to stop our opponents; part of this could be that the world would have to realize that the 2003 Iraqi invasion has led to the installation of murderous gangs & terrorists supported by the Hawzas to run the region, and the relevant invading Western countries would lose too much face in admitting their huge mistake, but we Sunnis must start using organized, legal means to overthrow this catastrophe and foster a region and a world more to our interests.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 07, 2017, 12:19:54 PM
I think we are realising that with Islamic military alliance to counteract these ragtag Shiite militias like hezbullah as well as state players like Iran

We definitely are moving forward against the Iranian influence in the region, even our ex coas general Rachel shareef from Pakistan is heading the Islamic alliance and Iran is rattled and complaining about it.......( but they Iran will bypass Muslim Pakistan to do deals with Hindu India, they both are very close,hypocrites)

This alliance will inshallah trump the Shiite crescent
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: muslim720 on April 07, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
Whether there is a Shia crescent or not, I do not care!  I only wish to see people - Muslim or non-Muslim - live and be able to exert themselves positively to their full potential.  You are never independent; you are either living in "vertical independence" (disassociating yourself from the Creator and relying on dunya, therefore, picking your causes as per your own self-interest) or are experiencing "horizontal independence" (disassociating yourself from dunya and submitting to the Creator).  I struggle for the latter, for "horizontal independence", and as such, I strive for no worldly attachments.  An innocent human being harmed by another is wrong, no ifs or buts.

Having said that, Libya is not in a better position today post-Gadhafi; Iraq, under Saddam, relatively speaking, was heaven compared to now.  Therefore, Syria will never be where it was few years ago (under Assad) and for long the Syrians will lament and wish to go back to those days.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Rationalist on April 08, 2017, 05:40:02 PM
Firstly I do not believe Asad gassed the Syrians. However, for some reason nobody wants peace in Syria. A continuous war will just continue to wipe out the Muslim population.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Rationalist on April 08, 2017, 05:45:45 PM
Having said that, Libya is not in a better position today post-Gadhafi; Iraq, under Saddam, relatively speaking, was heaven compared to now.  Therefore, Syria will never be where it was few years ago (under Assad) and for long the Syrians will lament and wish to go back to those days.

That's sadly the reality. If Assad gets overthrown some extremist will get into power. Then the 12ers will get more mileage in their Imam Bargas  to cry. They will cry about how the the they are being killed. They will also say that they extremist are the representative of Abi Bakr and Umar.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: muslim720 on April 08, 2017, 08:08:12 PM
Having said that, Libya is not in a better position today post-Gadhafi; Iraq, under Saddam, relatively speaking, was heaven compared to now.  Therefore, Syria will never be where it was few years ago (under Assad) and for long the Syrians will lament and wish to go back to those days.

That's sadly the reality. If Assad gets overthrown some extremist will get into power. Then the 12ers will get more mileage in their Imam Bargas  to cry. They will cry about how the the they are being killed. They will also say that they extremist are the representative of Abi Bakr and Umar.

Shias using innocent deaths to further their agenda or "get more mileage" is as pathetic as Sunnis (not all but Saudi Arabia, Turkey, et cetera) using the current situation to call for the ousting of Assad.  If a certain paradigm is contingent upon deaths of others then it is quite safe to reject that paradigm altogether. 
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 08, 2017, 10:27:39 PM
The thing is everybody wants Assad out, if Assad wanted peace he would have let the opposition or let the people of Syria have a say who can lead them........unfortunately the dog didn't want to lose his grip on power like his father, they executed they tortured they murdered innocents, until its come to now, it's all Assads fault all he has to do is step down.....simple!!

But he won't he has Iran and Russia scratching his back and all the millions of refugees and hundreds of thousands innocents martyred yet he still won't step down

He is all about himself and the power he holds while his wife enjoys it up in London loving the high life

Assads and the majority Shiite line is........." we have no alternative you don't want Isis etc taking over"........but if you would have let the Syrian people choose their destiny then the above statement wouldn't have to be made

And yet after bombing his own country with barrel bombs, white phosphorous, depleted uranium as well as chemical bombs flattening his own cities and creating uninhabitable lands he is still in power

There is a bigger game out there hence Russia is in and doing same bombings killing civilians just to show power to outsiders like the west, Assad is in with Iran and Russia with a Shiite twist involved and rubbing it in to all the Sunni Muslims of Syria

We didn't start this quagmire the Syrian people wanted Assad out, but Assad turned nasty and now is trying to play a victim game

It's so so so easy in this day and age to blame it on the terrorists, jihadists, Muslim fighters any rebel group that is wanting freedom and that's what this murderous regime has been doing for years and killing innocents off as if they were terrorists, bombing civilian areas cos they believe terrorists are hiding amongst them, they the regime don't care and won't care

When Assad is gone it may not get back to normal but at least the Syrians can try........look at Iraq majority Shiite, it's not better than sadams days but they are trying to make it work
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Rationalist on April 08, 2017, 10:57:18 PM
Having said that, Libya is not in a better position today post-Gadhafi; Iraq, under Saddam, relatively speaking, was heaven compared to now.  Therefore, Syria will never be where it was few years ago (under Assad) and for long the Syrians will lament and wish to go back to those days.

That's sadly the reality. If Assad gets overthrown some extremist will get into power. Then the 12ers will get more mileage in their Imam Bargas  to cry. They will cry about how the the they are being killed. They will also say that they extremist are the representative of Abi Bakr and Umar.

Shias using innocent deaths to further their agenda or "get more mileage" is as pathetic as Sunnis (not all but Saudi Arabia, Turkey, et cetera) using the current situation to call for the ousting of Assad.  If a certain paradigm is contingent upon deaths of others then it is quite safe to reject that paradigm altogether. 

No its not pathetic. Its reality. Also, the blaming the gas attack on Assad and further winning support is wrong. This is exactly what Sunnis are doing. They are in fact behaving like the 12ers by playing the victim game.

Also, when ISIS came into Iraq, the 12er Shia soldiers were ordered to leave and allow ISIS to come in.
This further allowed Iran to play a bigger role in Iraq.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Rationalist on April 08, 2017, 10:59:29 PM

When Assad is gone it may not get back to normal but at least the Syrians can try........look at Iraq majority Shiite, it's not better than sadams days but they are trying to make it work

A 12er Shia told me they have less social services after Sadaam. The 12ers made a deal with the super power where they get to keep a smaller cut. Whereas Sadaam had full control of the wealth and was able to distribute much more wealth.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Link on April 09, 2017, 06:38:21 AM
The Quran talks about how were it not for the right people who God defends by,  Mosques, Synagogues, and Churches, and places of Worship are destroyed.

The fact is Satan and his forces are relentless. They are willing to manipulate the whole world to flames, just to achieve their plans, and delay the victory.

But I swear let Iblis and his forces come... I don't consider US or Israel or Europe a superpower,  they are houses built on a stack of cards, and when their foundations and their interior deceptions get exposed, all will come crumbling down.  They are like the arrogant nations before who say "Who is stronger than us" and could not see that God was stronger in power and has forces that can destroy them at any time and was involved in a world they wish to disconnect him from.

Remember the Lord who destroyed Pharaoh, remember the days of God in the past, when Aad and Thamood were destroyed.

The world will come to the family of the reminder and be reminded by the Quran of the truth and be lead by it to the true guides after they attempted to manipulate to justify their idols.

This is an excuse (the whole Syrian conflict was set up for this reason) and plan that was set to oppress the waiters of Imam Mahdi.  But Satan doesn't know how to hide truth no more.

The false recitations of Quran are being unbroken, the magic on the hearts regarding is being destroyed, and the truth is being unveiled.

He is panicking. And the head is confused and so is the whole body.

I am not distressed by the plan of Satan and his forces because I know God plans and his Champion Lion King is the best one fit to destroy their plans and turn it against them.

Everyone who wishes to rally around other than the flag God has set up, that is up to them.



Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Farid on April 09, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
Champion Lion King is the best one fit to destroy their plans and turn it against them.

Truly a befitting name for the fictional character that you believe in.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: MuslimAnswers on April 09, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
Champion Lion King is the best one fit to destroy their plans and turn it against them.

Truly a befitting name for the fictional character that you believe in.

Though not fully related to the above, it is interesting that Muqtada al-Sadr has come out against Bashar al-Assad. My guess is that at the end Muqtada will be marginalized and accused of being a 'Zionist spy' (and most Twelvers will buy it as they are very conspiracy-minded and don't value true techniques for achieving knowledge)... of course his followers were in any case poor Twelvers who could be easily bought over by Sistani, Hizbullah or Khamenei, so this is the real test to see how powerful Muqtada truly is, not any past or present confrontations with the US Army.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Link on April 09, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Champion Lion King is the best one fit to destroy their plans and turn it against them.

Truly a befitting name for the fictional character that you believe in.

Yes, it's befitting name as Quran does verify Sulaiman did build statues and the Bible has that as Twelve Lions, and one Imam Ali's nicknames is the name: "Haider". And they are true kings and those who think they are the super power who cannot be defeated on earth are deluded.

All nations will fall before the reminder and it will rule humanity through God's final representative, The Mahdi.

Then people will know who was always stronger and greater in forces.

Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: MuslimAnswers on April 09, 2017, 04:59:15 PM

When Assad is gone it may not get back to normal but at least the Syrians can try........look at Iraq majority Shiite, it's not better than sadams days but they are trying to make it work

A 12er Shia told me they have less social services after Sadaam. The 12ers made a deal with the super power where they get to keep a smaller cut. Whereas Sadaam had full control of the wealth and was able to distribute much more wealth.

It must be a really bad state of corruption and lack of services that anyone from among their sect would admit that; anyway, history will show, if it has not already done so, that a 12er-run Iraq is one of the worst mistakes in the history of humanity, and it will only get worse (even for the 12ers themselves) as the international community lets it run on. Whatever one may feel about the Turkish, Saudi, or other governments, the fact that they are trying to avoid falling into the same abyss is laudable.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Rationalist on April 09, 2017, 07:24:55 PM
I am sure the 12er Shia are talking about the emerge of the Sufyani.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Rationalist on April 09, 2017, 07:26:43 PM

All nations will fall before the reminder and it will rule humanity through God's final representative, The Mahdi.

Then people will know who was always stronger and greater in forces.



Actually hadith indicate Dajjal will overpower the Mahdi when he appears. 
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: muslim720 on April 10, 2017, 06:27:10 PM
No its not pathetic. Its reality. Also, the blaming the gas attack on Assad and further winning support is wrong. This is exactly what Sunnis are doing. They are in fact behaving like the 12ers by playing the victim game.

Also, when ISIS came into Iraq, the 12er Shia soldiers were ordered to leave and allow ISIS to come in.
This further allowed Iran to play a bigger role in Iraq.

Having spent time in Naqshbandi zawiya, I've often heard Shaykh Hisham Kabbani mention the following hadith narrated by Abu Hurayra (ra) who narrated from the Prophet (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) saying, "There will be tribulations during which one who sitting is better than one who is standing, and one who standing is better than one who is walking, and one who is walking is better than one who is running.  He who exposes himself to them will be drawn to them and whoever find a refuge from them, let him seek protection therein."

Many a times, when I'm with my Shia friends or at the Shia mosque, I hear brothers foam at the mouth by the mere mention of Saudi Arabia.  I always remind them of that hadith and inform them that I'd rather be "sitting" than to contribute to any of this mess.  I only care about innocent lives, Muslim or non-Muslim, Shia or Sunni.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: MuslimAnswers on April 11, 2017, 10:54:28 AM
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Many a times, when I'm with my Shia friends or at the Shia mosque, I hear brothers foam at the mouth by the mere mention of Saudi Arabia.  I always remind them of that hadith and inform them that I'd rather be "sitting" than to contribute to any of this mess.  I only care about innocent lives, Muslim or non-Muslim, Shia or Sunni.

Not the only problem in the whole equation of course, but if the Saudi Royal family were to be removed, what would be the substitute? The truth, whether one likes it or not, is that the majority of Saudi citizens are "Wahaabis" of various shades of conviction, the only way to remove them is by a decades-long occupation of Arabia and tens of millions of deaths, something that most sensible people would try to avoid if possible.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: muslim720 on April 11, 2017, 02:56:50 PM
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Not the only problem in the whole equation of course, but if the Saudi Royal family were to be removed, what would be the substitute?

Beautiful!  That is the same question I put forward to them but with a slightly different intention.  I ask them that if the family of Saud disappears, what happens then?  Saudi Arabia might end up like Iraq, Libya or Syria.  I ask them if they are propagating for widespread chaos in the birthplace of the Prophet (saw) and they have no satisfactory answer.

It is like what a wise Sunni brother said in ShiaChat.  Shia Islam cannot be authentic Islam because it does not give you anything on what life (or this world) would have been like had the 12 Imams (ra) actually held power (materialistically and spiritually).  Therefore, when Shia brothers talk about the collapse of the Saudi regime, they fail to offer a satisfactory solution (post-Saudi collapse) because in their paradigm, they only know how to revolt, not rebuild.  Hence, a Saudi collapse, suggested by Shias, is a dangerous proposition.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Hani on April 13, 2017, 02:43:10 AM
Salam,

US has no strategy when it comes to Syria, chemicals are still a no-no, Assad can obliterate his people any other way he chooses and if he manages to pull his stuff together the US will overlook him and he may remain in power.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Rationalist on April 13, 2017, 03:42:24 AM
The reason is Assad secular so the media can't blame Islam when it comes to his oppression. When a religious fanatic does it, everyone who is attached to deen is at fault.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: MuslimAnswers on April 13, 2017, 11:53:23 AM
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Beautiful!  That is the same question I put forward to them but with a slightly different intention.  I ask them that if the family of Saud disappears, what happens then?  Saudi Arabia might end up like Iraq, Libya or Syria.  I ask them if they are propagating for widespread chaos in the birthplace of the Prophet (saw) and they have no satisfactory answer.

It is like what a wise Sunni brother said in ShiaChat.  Shia Islam cannot be authentic Islam because it does not give you anything on what life (or this world) would have been like had the 12 Imams (ra) actually held power (materialistically and spiritually).  Therefore, when Shia brothers talk about the collapse of the Saudi regime, they fail to offer a satisfactory solution (post-Saudi collapse) because in their paradigm, they only know how to revolt, not rebuild.  Hence, a Saudi collapse, suggested by Shias, is a dangerous proposition.

What I gather is that, like Neo-cons about Iraq in 2003, many Shias truly believe that most Muslims will bow down prostrate before the 'Supreme Leader', etc., if only the 'current corrupt governments' could be removed and if they are still resisting they much be paid 'Zionist/Wahaabi Agents' who should be eliminated.

In fact almost all the violence in places like Syria is due to exactly this problem: They cannot comprehend that one can be against the Khameneist puppet governments and yet be anti-Zionist, even anti-Wahaabi, at the same time; in fact, Syrian and Iraqi Sunnis were quite liberal about religion before all these wars and violence visited them, and such views held by many Twelver Shias are extremely dangerous for the region and the world, especially due to the lack of nuance they manifest.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Sheikh on April 13, 2017, 08:31:47 PM
Slightly unrelated to bombing Assad, but the US just dropped a MOAB (mother of all bombs) on Afghanistan to target ISIS.


I'm thinking this regime (Trump) has even less of a strategy than Bush did.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Rationalist on April 14, 2017, 12:47:01 AM
During Bush's era they were getting rid of the 80's weapons. They were even using the F-16 in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now the time has come to start testing weapons which will be used for WW3.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 19, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 19, 2017, 12:07:09 PM
So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?

May Allah swt give that dog the worst death possible inshallah

350000 martyred over 4 million refugees and Syria bombed to dark ages

So yes anything that can get rid of Assad the dog while his wife laps it up in London enjoying the high life, even bombs yes I agree with

100%👍👍
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 19, 2017, 12:15:19 PM
So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?

May Allah swt give that dog the worst death possible inshallah

350000 martyred over 4 million refugees and Syria bombed to dark ages

So yes anything that can get rid of Assad the dog while his wife laps it up in London enjoying the high life, even bombs yes I agree with

100%👍👍

First of all I would like you to know that in Arabic, "Al-Assad" would translate to "The Lion". As we all know, a lion can't be a dog.

Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.

:)
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: mhmd on April 19, 2017, 02:55:42 PM


First of all I would like you to know that in Arabic, "Al-Assad" would translate to "The Lion". As we all know, a lion can't be a dog.
Nonsense! Here's another dog-lion (https://istheworldyouroyster.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/kaohsiung-love-river-lionhead-dog.jpg) to keep your friend company. Or another lyin' dog, if you like...  ;D



Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.

 :)
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.  8)
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 19, 2017, 02:58:28 PM


First of all I would like you to know that in Arabic, "Al-Assad" would translate to "The Lion". As we all know, a lion can't be a dog.
Nonsense! Here's another dog-lion (https://istheworldyouroyster.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/kaohsiung-love-river-lionhead-dog.jpg) to keep your friend company. Or another lyin' dog, if you like...  ;D



Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.

 :)
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.  8)

Lol. It's not my opinion, it's facts. America openly backs the "rebels" and Hillary Clinton revealed in her e-mails this is all about Israel. This whole thing was a lie, there's no revolution or anything.

Hehehehe.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: mhmd on April 19, 2017, 04:34:02 PM



First of all I would like you to know that in Arabic, "Al-Assad" would translate to "The Lion". As we all know, a lion can't be a dog.
Nonsense! Here's another dog-lion (https://istheworldyouroyster.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/kaohsiung-love-river-lionhead-dog.jpg) to keep your friend company. Or another lyin' dog, if you like...  ;D



Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.

 :)
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.  8)

Lol. It's not my opinion, it's facts. America openly backs the "rebels" and Hillary Clinton revealed in her e-mails this is all about Israel. This whole thing was a lie, there's no revolution or anything.

Hehehehe.


Ah, but it is, like, your opinion, man. You've promoted it to 'fact' without having seen any of it firsthand because it supports what you want to believe. But, then, we all fall into that, probably more than we'd like to admit.


Point is, being 'mindful' of why we think, say and do stuff can't hurt and, indeed, can be quite helpful, if we are among those who are aware that we are in need of it.


Is that "Hehehehe" in regards to the lion-dog? Weird-looking, innit?  ;)
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 19, 2017, 04:57:24 PM



First of all I would like you to know that in Arabic, "Al-Assad" would translate to "The Lion". As we all know, a lion can't be a dog.
Nonsense! Here's another dog-lion (https://istheworldyouroyster.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/kaohsiung-love-river-lionhead-dog.jpg) to keep your friend company. Or another lyin' dog, if you like...  ;D



Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.

 :)
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.  8)

Lol. It's not my opinion, it's facts. America openly backs the "rebels" and Hillary Clinton revealed in her e-mails this is all about Israel. This whole thing was a lie, there's no revolution or anything.

Hehehehe.


Ah, but it is, like, your opinion, man. You've promoted it to 'fact' without having seen any of it firsthand because it supports what you want to believe. But, then, we all fall into that, probably more than we'd like to admit.


Point is, being 'mindful' of why we think, say and do stuff can't hurt and, indeed, can be quite helpful, if we are among those who are aware that we are in need of it.


Is that "Hehehehe" in regards to the lion-dog? Weird-looking, innit?  ;)

If you wanted proof you could just ask. Do you want proof or not? If you say yes, it's coming your way.

That dog-lion was new, I must admit.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Hani on April 19, 2017, 05:30:50 PM
According to his wife's e-mails though, she calls him a "duck", maybe you're confused about which ANIMAL he is? "lion" is still a dumb animal no?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 19, 2017, 05:42:59 PM
According to his wife's e-mails though, she calls him a "duck", maybe you're confused about which ANIMAL he is? "lion" is still a dumb animal no?

His wife can call him whatever, it's his wife. It's called dala3. You wouldn't wanr another man calling you "halawti" or whatever wives call husbands. Dala3 is only between man and woman.

And I'm not sure if it's true, might he a zionist inspired attempt at defamation.

Furthermore, you probably know that Arabs like to call "Fahad, Assad, Nimr". This is nothing new. This animals represent many attributes.

As for "dog", most cultures I know would see that insulting. If someone called me a lion, I wouldn't be angry. If someone called me a dog, I'd be angry.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Hani on April 19, 2017, 05:45:23 PM
I'll stick to duck, because his wife is a part of his Ahlul-Bayt, she knows his character better.

Anyway, this is a useless topic, feel free to not waste time here.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 19, 2017, 06:06:58 PM
So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?

May Allah swt give that dog the worst death possible inshallah

350000 martyred over 4 million refugees and Syria bombed to dark ages

So yes anything that can get rid of Assad the dog while his wife laps it up in London enjoying the high life, even bombs yes I agree with

100%👍👍

First of all I would like you to know that in Arabic, "Al-Assad" would translate to "The Lion". As we all know, a lion can't be a dog.

Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.

:)

First of all Thankyou for changing your pic to something so soothing

Forget the lion part......he is you have to admit acting like a filthy dog, he STARTED the first killings and kept on at them got his army involved then got his special forces and snipers to take anyone out then he went on to kill from the air the barrel bombs the chemical bombs any bombs a dog can get his paws on
You don't see the suffering no you see is a shitite crescent and all the hyperbole that goes with this sect
Dog started it and Russia is well well known for fake news and Iran is latching on to it too

Remember the Syrians wanted dog to be gone but what did the dog do?

The rest is BS blame him blame them it's politics it's this it's that

Dog goes and no doubt it will be peace, no Isis will takeover once there is peace and stability it's simple for everyone to digest.......except for mother Russian and the shitites
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 19, 2017, 06:15:58 PM
So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?

May Allah swt give that dog the worst death possible inshallah

350000 martyred over 4 million refugees and Syria bombed to dark ages

So yes anything that can get rid of Assad the dog while his wife laps it up in London enjoying the high life, even bombs yes I agree with

100%👍👍

First of all I would like you to know that in Arabic, "Al-Assad" would translate to "The Lion". As we all know, a lion can't be a dog.

Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.

:)

First of all Thankyou for changing your pic to something so soothing

Forget the lion part......he is you have to admit acting like a filthy dog, he STARTED the first killings and kept on at them got his army involved then got his special forces and snipers to take anyone out then he went on to kill from the air the barrel bombs the chemical bombs any bombs a dog can get his paws on
You don't see the suffering no you see is a shitite crescent and all the hyperbole that goes with this sect
Dog started it and Russia is well well known for fake news and Iran is latching on to it too

Remember the Syrians wanted dog to be gone but what did the dog do?

The rest is BS blame him blame them it's politics it's this it's that

Dog goes and no doubt it will be peace, no Isis will takeover once there is peace and stability it's simple for everyone to digest.......except for mother Russian and the shitites

Have a cold drink, and re-write that entire post again.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 19, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?

May Allah swt give that dog the worst death possible inshallah

350000 martyred over 4 million refugees and Syria bombed to dark ages

So yes anything that can get rid of Assad the dog while his wife laps it up in London enjoying the high life, even bombs yes I agree with

100%👍👍

First of all I would like you to know that in Arabic, "Al-Assad" would translate to "The Lion". As we all know, a lion can't be a dog.

Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.

:)

First of all Thankyou for changing your pic to something so soothing

Forget the lion part......he is you have to admit acting like a filthy dog, he STARTED the first killings and kept on at them got his army involved then got his special forces and snipers to take anyone out then he went on to kill from the air the barrel bombs the chemical bombs any bombs a dog can get his paws on
You don't see the suffering no you see is a shitite crescent and all the hyperbole that goes with this sect
Dog started it and Russia is well well known for fake news and Iran is latching on to it too

Remember the Syrians wanted dog to be gone but what did the dog do?

The rest is BS blame him blame them it's politics it's this it's that

Dog goes and no doubt it will be peace, no Isis will takeover once there is peace and stability it's simple for everyone to digest.......except for mother Russian and the shitites

Have a cold drink, and re-write that entire post again.


Don't talk the talk if you can't walk
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Hadrami on April 19, 2017, 11:19:12 PM
I am not distressed by the plan of Satan and his forces because I know God plans and his Champion Lion King is the best one fit to destroy their plans and turn it against them.

HAKUNA MATATA!!!! says the stinkin mud rolling pig
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Sheikh on April 20, 2017, 05:30:22 AM

So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
No, I do not.  The missiles bounced of the runway and didn't make a dent in the Syrian forces.  Trump only did it so he could say to his own people, "See?  I am not helping Russia, I just bombed their allies!"


I would support a much larger attack against the Syrian Government.


Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.
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There wouldn't be any terrorists in the opposition groups if Al-Assad didn't release all of them from prison and tell them to go join the opposition.  ::)
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 20, 2017, 07:52:08 AM

So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
No, I do not.  The missiles bounced of the runway and didn't make a dent in the Syrian forces.  Trump only did it so he could say to his own people, "See?  I am not helping Russia, I just bombed their allies!"


I would support a much larger attack against the Syrian Government.


Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.
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There wouldn't be any terrorists in the opposition groups if Al-Assad didn't release all of them from prison and tell them to go join the opposition.  ::)


So you support a foreign country attacking Syria? Neat.

The opposition were terrorists from the beginning, since the beginning there was sectarian coverage of the conflict and you had mashayikh all over the Gulf calling people to go to Syria to help their "brothers".

I assume those non-Syrians that are fighting were not in "Assad prisons". Or were they? Does Assad have a prison everywhere in the world?

Oh yeah Assad let out the prisoners, do you remember how Assad was told by the terrorists (or those you call rebels) that he should let out the prisoners? Well he did just that, and that's their fault.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 20, 2017, 08:36:38 AM

So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
No, I do not.  The missiles bounced of the runway and didn't make a dent in the Syrian forces.  Trump only did it so he could say to his own people, "See?  I am not helping Russia, I just bombed their allies!"


I would support a much larger attack against the Syrian Government.


Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.
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There wouldn't be any terrorists in the opposition groups if Al-Assad didn't release all of them from prison and tell them to go join the opposition.  ::)


So you support a foreign country attacking Syria? Neat.

The opposition were terrorists from the beginning, since the beginning there was sectarian coverage of the conflict and you had mashayikh all over the Gulf calling people to go to Syria to help their "brothers".

I assume those non-Syrians that are fighting were not in "Assad prisons". Or were they? Does Assad have a prison everywhere in the world?

Oh yeah Assad let out the prisoners, do you remember how Assad was told by the terrorists (or those you call rebels) that he should let out the prisoners? Well he did just that, and that's their fault.

Stop waffling on and defending a dog by propaganda and lies that you have been fed

Russia's been caught lying, and you dumb shitites are still carrying on and crying over fake made up stories.......hell its in your sect to follow LIES, who am I kidding

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 20, 2017, 09:20:36 AM

So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
No, I do not.  The missiles bounced of the runway and didn't make a dent in the Syrian forces.  Trump only did it so he could say to his own people, "See?  I am not helping Russia, I just bombed their allies!"


I would support a much larger attack against the Syrian Government.


Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.
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There wouldn't be any terrorists in the opposition groups if Al-Assad didn't release all of them from prison and tell them to go join the opposition.  ::)


So you support a foreign country attacking Syria? Neat.

The opposition were terrorists from the beginning, since the beginning there was sectarian coverage of the conflict and you had mashayikh all over the Gulf calling people to go to Syria to help their "brothers".

I assume those non-Syrians that are fighting were not in "Assad prisons". Or were they? Does Assad have a prison everywhere in the world?

Oh yeah Assad let out the prisoners, do you remember how Assad was told by the terrorists (or those you call rebels) that he should let out the prisoners? Well he did just that, and that's their fault.

Stop waffling on and defending a dog by propaganda and lies that you have been fed

Russia's been caught lying, and you dumb shitites are still carrying on and crying over fake made up stories.......hell its in your sect to follow LIES, who am I kidding

😂😂😂

Lol I thought I told you to have a nice cold drink.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 20, 2017, 10:54:06 AM

So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
No, I do not.  The missiles bounced of the runway and didn't make a dent in the Syrian forces.  Trump only did it so he could say to his own people, "See?  I am not helping Russia, I just bombed their allies!"


I would support a much larger attack against the Syrian Government.


Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.
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There wouldn't be any terrorists in the opposition groups if Al-Assad didn't release all of them from prison and tell them to go join the opposition.  ::)


So you support a foreign country attacking Syria? Neat.

The opposition were terrorists from the beginning, since the beginning there was sectarian coverage of the conflict and you had mashayikh all over the Gulf calling people to go to Syria to help their "brothers".

I assume those non-Syrians that are fighting were not in "Assad prisons". Or were they? Does Assad have a prison everywhere in the world?

Oh yeah Assad let out the prisoners, do you remember how Assad was told by the terrorists (or those you call rebels) that he should let out the prisoners? Well he did just that, and that's their fault.

Stop waffling on and defending a dog by propaganda and lies that you have been fed

Russia's been caught lying, and you dumb shitites are still carrying on and crying over fake made up stories.......hell its in your sect to follow LIES, who am I kidding

😂😂😂

Lol I thought I told you to have a nice cold drink.

lol I ain't the one with knives slicing my head and body

Try pouring some over your head......maybe you will see the truth😂
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 20, 2017, 12:00:28 PM

So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
No, I do not.  The missiles bounced of the runway and didn't make a dent in the Syrian forces.  Trump only did it so he could say to his own people, "See?  I am not helping Russia, I just bombed their allies!"


I would support a much larger attack against the Syrian Government.


Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.
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There wouldn't be any terrorists in the opposition groups if Al-Assad didn't release all of them from prison and tell them to go join the opposition.  ::)


So you support a foreign country attacking Syria? Neat.

The opposition were terrorists from the beginning, since the beginning there was sectarian coverage of the conflict and you had mashayikh all over the Gulf calling people to go to Syria to help their "brothers".

I assume those non-Syrians that are fighting were not in "Assad prisons". Or were they? Does Assad have a prison everywhere in the world?

Oh yeah Assad let out the prisoners, do you remember how Assad was told by the terrorists (or those you call rebels) that he should let out the prisoners? Well he did just that, and that's their fault.

Stop waffling on and defending a dog by propaganda and lies that you have been fed

Russia's been caught lying, and you dumb shitites are still carrying on and crying over fake made up stories.......hell its in your sect to follow LIES, who am I kidding

😂😂😂

Lol I thought I told you to have a nice cold drink.

lol I ain't the one with knives slicing my head and body

Try pouring some over your head......maybe you will see the truth😂

Lol the truth is as clear as a whistle. This whole Syria thing is an American-led coup against the Syrian Government.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 20, 2017, 01:21:55 PM

So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
No, I do not.  The missiles bounced of the runway and didn't make a dent in the Syrian forces.  Trump only did it so he could say to his own people, "See?  I am not helping Russia, I just bombed their allies!"


I would support a much larger attack against the Syrian Government.


Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.
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There wouldn't be any terrorists in the opposition groups if Al-Assad didn't release all of them from prison and tell them to go join the opposition.  ::)


So you support a foreign country attacking Syria? Neat.

The opposition were terrorists from the beginning, since the beginning there was sectarian coverage of the conflict and you had mashayikh all over the Gulf calling people to go to Syria to help their "brothers".

I assume those non-Syrians that are fighting were not in "Assad prisons". Or were they? Does Assad have a prison everywhere in the world?

Oh yeah Assad let out the prisoners, do you remember how Assad was told by the terrorists (or those you call rebels) that he should let out the prisoners? Well he did just that, and that's their fault.

Stop waffling on and defending a dog by propaganda and lies that you have been fed

Russia's been caught lying, and you dumb shitites are still carrying on and crying over fake made up stories.......hell its in your sect to follow LIES, who am I kidding

😂😂😂

Lol I thought I told you to have a nice cold drink.

lol I ain't the one with knives slicing my head and body

Try pouring some over your head......maybe you will see the truth😂

Lol the truth is as clear as a whistle. This whole Syria thing is an American-led coup against the Syrian Government.


Not your whistle, it's filthy and all your doing is blowing filth out.
Yea UNELECTED Syrian government whom the Syrian people wanted out, wether amreeka was involved or not.
We care for the INNOCENTS not the dogs in power

Now go clean your whistle Chop chop😜
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 20, 2017, 01:30:01 PM

So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?
No, I do not.  The missiles bounced of the runway and didn't make a dent in the Syrian forces.  Trump only did it so he could say to his own people, "See?  I am not helping Russia, I just bombed their allies!"


I would support a much larger attack against the Syrian Government.


Secondly Assad is fighting Zionist/Imperialist-backed takfiri terrorists in the form of the "Syrian Opposition groups". They are not "martyrs". Most of the fault falls upon the terrorists, and not Bashar Al-Assad.
[/size]
There wouldn't be any terrorists in the opposition groups if Al-Assad didn't release all of them from prison and tell them to go join the opposition.  ::)


So you support a foreign country attacking Syria? Neat.

The opposition were terrorists from the beginning, since the beginning there was sectarian coverage of the conflict and you had mashayikh all over the Gulf calling people to go to Syria to help their "brothers".

I assume those non-Syrians that are fighting were not in "Assad prisons". Or were they? Does Assad have a prison everywhere in the world?

Oh yeah Assad let out the prisoners, do you remember how Assad was told by the terrorists (or those you call rebels) that he should let out the prisoners? Well he did just that, and that's their fault.

Stop waffling on and defending a dog by propaganda and lies that you have been fed

Russia's been caught lying, and you dumb shitites are still carrying on and crying over fake made up stories.......hell its in your sect to follow LIES, who am I kidding

😂😂😂

Lol I thought I told you to have a nice cold drink.

lol I ain't the one with knives slicing my head and body

Try pouring some over your head......maybe you will see the truth😂

Lol the truth is as clear as a whistle. This whole Syria thing is an American-led coup against the Syrian Government.


Not your whistle, it's filthy and all your doing is blowing filth out.
Yea UNELECTED Syrian government whom the Syrian people wanted out, wether amreeka was involved or not.
We care for the INNOCENTS not the dogs in power

Now go clean your whistle Chop chop😜

We have a spokesperson for the Syrians over here.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 20, 2017, 01:53:17 PM
over here? lol dry!, the here in the forum ALL speak for innocent Syrians.

While there is only one in here speaking for the great dog of Syria.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 20, 2017, 03:31:19 PM
over here? lol dry!, the here in the forum ALL speak for innocent Syrians.

While there is only one in here speaking for the great dog of Syria.

Lol. Innocent Syrians, you mean the ones who are under the terrorists control? I'll agree for sure with that one :p
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 20, 2017, 03:50:20 PM
over here? lol dry!, the here in the forum ALL speak for innocent Syrians.

While there is only one in here speaking for the great dog of Syria.

Lol. Innocent Syrians, you mean the ones who are under the terrorists control? I'll agree for sure with that one :p

No the ones under oppression of the dog and the shitite militias as well as Iran 😊
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 20, 2017, 04:29:50 PM
over here? lol dry!, the here in the forum ALL speak for innocent Syrians.

While there is only one in here speaking for the great dog of Syria.

Lol. Innocent Syrians, you mean the ones who are under the terrorists control? I'll agree for sure with that one :p

No the ones under oppression of the dog and the shitite militias as well as Iran 😊

Okay boss
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 20, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
By the way I find it amazing you keep saying "shitites". The akhlaq of "Ahlul Sunnati wal Jama'ah" on display? Or?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: muslim720 on April 20, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?

Salaam alaykum wa rahmatullah,
To answer your question in one word, NO!  I condemn the attacks against the Syrian government.  I condemn everyone fighting against the Syrian government not because of allegiance (to the Syrian government) but because I am a rational human being.  I have met Christian Syrians here in USA who have family members in Syria who tell me that the days of Bashar Al-Assad were much preferred over the status quo (and the barbarity that these "jihadists" have unleashed) not because there is mass killing and the country's infrastructure has collapsed but because Bashar Al-Assad had maintained religious order (among Muslims and Christians) while protected the minorities (such as Christians).

I know our Shia brothers (like yourself) are vested in personalities whether it be Imams (ra) or leaders like Assad, et cetera.  Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah is vested in the truth.  Every person I consider to be my teacher is against what is happening in Syria and they are all Sunnis except one who is a Shia.  All my teachers, except the Shia one, are involved in weekly seminars and halaqas, open to both Muslims and non-Muslims, to educate people and introduce them to authentic Islamic beliefs and Islam's stance on current world events.  They unequivocally condemn Al-Nusra, ISIS, whatever other names these barbaric degenerates use - may Allah (swt) hasten their destruction.

What I find appalling is that when I was not too happy with bringing down Saddam, my Shia brothers were rejoicing.  Now that it is Assad's turn, they are quite troubled by it.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on April 20, 2017, 07:32:47 PM
By the way I find it amazing you keep saying "shitites". The akhlaq of "Ahlul Sunnati wal Jama'ah" on display? Or?

Yea don't be acting all noble when your intentions are something else.

The reason I behave like this with you is coz of your love for a killer of innocents and yet you call them martyrs as terrorists........nothing else to it


Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 20, 2017, 07:41:31 PM
By the way I find it amazing you keep saying "shitites". The akhlaq of "Ahlul Sunnati wal Jama'ah" on display? Or?

Yea don't be acting all noble when your intentions are something else.

The reason I behave like this with you is coz of your love for a killer of innocents and yet you call them martyrs as terrorists........nothing else to it

Guess I touched a nerve. My apologies then.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: muslim720 on April 26, 2017, 09:54:44 PM
Guess I touched a nerve. My apologies then.

...and you totally ignored my post.  Guess it wasn't good enough.  Took away your chance for a counter.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 27, 2017, 04:55:50 PM
So what do you people think? Do you support the attack against the Syrian Government or not?

Salaam alaykum wa rahmatullah,
To answer your question in one word, NO!  I condemn the attacks against the Syrian government.  I condemn everyone fighting against the Syrian government not because of allegiance (to the Syrian government) but because I am a rational human being.  I have met Christian Syrians here in USA who have family members in Syria who tell me that the days of Bashar Al-Assad were much preferred over the status quo (and the barbarity that these "jihadists" have unleashed) not because there is mass killing and the country's infrastructure has collapsed but because Bashar Al-Assad had maintained religious order (among Muslims and Christians) while protected the minorities (such as Christians).

I know our Shia brothers (like yourself) are vested in personalities whether it be Imams (ra) or leaders like Assad, et cetera.  Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah is vested in the truth.  Every person I consider to be my teacher is against what is happening in Syria and they are all Sunnis except one who is a Shia.  All my teachers, except the Shia one, are involved in weekly seminars and halaqas, open to both Muslims and non-Muslims, to educate people and introduce them to authentic Islamic beliefs and Islam's stance on current world events.  They unequivocally condemn Al-Nusra, ISIS, whatever other names these barbaric degenerates use - may Allah (swt) hasten their destruction.

What I find appalling is that when I was not too happy with bringing down Saddam, my Shia brothers were rejoicing.  Now that it is Assad's turn, they are quite troubled by it.

Sorry friend, I can't reply to the entire Ummah at once. I have a life you know.

But I don't know what should I reply to in this post, do you have a question/statement that you want me to address/discuss?

Is it about Saddam? Any Shi'i should condemn all invasions everywhere, and the US invasion was obviously about oil and special interests and helping Israel and not to liberate people.

So if that was the point you want me to address, then that's my answer.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: muslim720 on April 27, 2017, 06:41:23 PM
I have a life you know.

No doubt!

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But I don't know what should I reply to in this post, do you have a question/statement that you want me to address/discuss?

Yes, you should address why it was okay to dispose of Saddam, Mubaarak, Gadhafi, et cetera - and almost all of these were seen as positive developments among Shias - but now that it is Assad's turn, why are the Shias so worked up?  Keep in mind that I stand neutral; I want people to live and prosper whether it be Iraq, Egypt, Libya or anywhere else for that matter.

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Any Shi'i should condemn all invasions everywhere

Not until the same fate befell Assad and I checked your double-standards.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Link on April 27, 2017, 07:20:55 PM
I posted this before:

I have been from the start against him and still am. And I didn't believe in the false dichotomy that either 1. ISIS rules 2. Asad stays.

There is alternatives way of going about this.  But both the west and Iran way of dealing with it was not the way. Supporting militants that were chained to Al-Qaeda who was chained to ISIS was not the way. Supplying weapons that you know will eventually get into the hands of ISIS was not right either.

Assad doesn't justify doing such things and neither does the presences of such militants justify the stance Iran took.

I am without a community that I see officially, my anti-taqleed stance (not to blindly follow scholars) has left me without a community to be part of.

The fact the end has been bad and the solution people sought has not worked,  is telling of our state.

We are hard headed and not willing to compromise, while we have an example of Imam Hassan who gave up power though those given power by that treaty, continued to oppress his followers, the damage would be no way as close as if he continued to fight.

Israel was an and is an oppressive stated founded on oppression. But we got to give it up, Palestinian won't get it back, at least not by our hands through confortation. Really. It's not worth the whole world being turned to flames. The only way it will happen is there is a healing process by which they are integrated back to their homeland and the apartheid state ends to be what it is, but comprehensive of embracing Palestinians.  I don't know if this will happen or won't but it's time to heal and move on.

Compromise doesn't mean you are saying you are wrong.  It's to move on. This is not the first time land was conquered wrongly and probably won't be the last time.

The fact is West wants to stop Hezbollah, because it's last stance resistance that keeps their agenda from taking place.   This whole conflict in Syria they tried to hijack it by supporting groups that would be against Hezbollah, but that has backfired to everyone.

Dangerous game they played and they pigeoned hole Iran and Hezbollah to either watch as their link get's severed or play a dangerous game themselves and support Asaad.

All played the cards wrong, and the outcome is a loss for everyone. A beautiful country destroyed and no good outcome in the long road.

What could have been done differently? The west should of kept their noses out and not try to hijack and support the wrong groups like they always do. The groups that are hostile to Shiites.   And Iran should of just pushed Asad to have elections and step down despite the chaos.  They could of had limited elections, true, but it would be better. 

If Syrian people would have chosen to be hostile towards Hezbollah and Iran, that's a sacrifice we have to make. The reason being is that this is what the west does, they support every dictator that supports their interest?

We here should have made the sacrifice...and even if it would be very difficult to strengthen hezbollah without Syria as an ally,  it can still be done though yes, it would detriment the flow big time.

And it would be easier to have tried to negotiate with even Al-Nusra in government, than to endlessly fight.....  And perhaps another revolution after giving power to Al-Nusra could of have been pushed, that would be non-violent.

The point is, there were many more options.

Both played their hands wrong.... but I hope if anything, a lesson will be learned.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Hani on April 27, 2017, 10:31:25 PM
I posted this before:

I have been from the start against him and still am. And I didn't believe in the false dichotomy that either 1. ISIS rules 2. Asad stays.

There is alternatives way of going about this.  But both the west and Iran way of dealing with it was not the way. Supporting militants that were chained to Al-Qaeda who was chained to ISIS was not the way. Supplying weapons that you know will eventually get into the hands of ISIS was not right either.

Assad doesn't justify doing such things and neither does the presences of such militants justify the stance Iran took.

I am without a community that I see officially, my anti-taqleed stance (not to blindly follow scholars) has left me without a community to be part of.

The fact the end has been bad and the solution people sought has not worked,  is telling of our state.

We are hard headed and not willing to compromise, while we have an example of Imam Hassan who gave up power though those given power by that treaty, continued to oppress his followers, the damage would be no way as close as if he continued to fight.

Israel was an and is an oppressive stated founded on oppression. But we got to give it up, Palestinian won't get it back, at least not by our hands through confortation. Really. It's not worth the whole world being turned to flames. The only way it will happen is there is a healing process by which they are integrated back to their homeland and the apartheid state ends to be what it is, but comprehensive of embracing Palestinians.  I don't know if this will happen or won't but it's time to heal and move on.

Compromise doesn't mean you are saying you are wrong.  It's to move on. This is not the first time land was conquered wrongly and probably won't be the last time.

The fact is West wants to stop Hezbollah, because it's last stance resistance that keeps their agenda from taking place.   This whole conflict in Syria they tried to hijack it by supporting groups that would be against Hezbollah, but that has backfired to everyone.

Dangerous game they played and they pigeoned hole Iran and Hezbollah to either watch as their link get's severed or play a dangerous game themselves and support Asaad.

All played the cards wrong, and the outcome is a loss for everyone. A beautiful country destroyed and no good outcome in the long road.

What could have been done differently? The west should of kept their noses out and not try to hijack and support the wrong groups like they always do. The groups that are hostile to Shiites.   And Iran should of just pushed Asad to have elections and step down despite the chaos.  They could of had limited elections, true, but it would be better. 

If Syrian people would have chosen to be hostile towards Hezbollah and Iran, that's a sacrifice we have to make. The reason being is that this is what the west does, they support every dictator that supports their interest?

We here should have made the sacrifice...and even if it would be very difficult to strengthen hezbollah without Syria as an ally,  it can still be done though yes, it would detriment the flow big time.

And it would be easier to have tried to negotiate with even Al-Nusra in government, than to endlessly fight.....  And perhaps another revolution after giving power to Al-Nusra could of have been pushed, that would be non-violent.

The point is, there were many more options.

Both played their hands wrong.... but I hope if anything, a lesson will be learned.


I agree with most of the above except the part about Hezbulla, as a Shia I can see where you were coming from, I was a big fan years ago. However, the biggest evidence that Hezbulla is not a resistance against western "Imperialism" and is no more than an Iranian tool, controlled and funded by them, is that the West and Israel can do WHATEVER they heck they want, like Israel can literally bomb the west bank tomorrow, kick Palestinians out of Jerusalem, bomb Syria (like they've been doing regularly for the past couple of years) and they will get absolutely ZERO resistance from Hezbulla/Iran. If the US tomorrow decides to invade Afghanistan all over again, ZERO resistance from Iran and Hezb, that I guarantee you. You take them as people of honor and principals, they're not, it's a oil producing aggressive state and a puppet militia, end of story.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Link on April 28, 2017, 12:28:27 AM
I am not in the position to know what Hezbollah and Iran can do resist Israel and US, all I know is this time they played their hands wrong and the sought unity with Muslims and heightening stance they had, was lost as well.

It was a bad move. 

We are going to go through rough times ahead perhaps, like believers in the past, as they await the savior and help from God.

I hope we can make the transition to a victory an easy means and hasten the victory, but the way we all are foolishly playing in the hands of Satan, it seems the victory will be more delayed than hastened by the actions we are taking.

It is like Nasrallah said, they are the last stance, and the umma, if the resistance is lost, will face a dark period.

I don't know what we will face, but we got to calm our minds and begin to resist and plan smartly.

No more just resisting with harsh words and no action is ever put to the promises.

I got to figure out what I can do as well. What can I do to hasten the victory of God and his Messenger?

Quran and Ahlulbayt are the greatest favor one can be given since they are perfect means towards God and lead to an honorable relationship with God.

I will do my best to help spread the truth and awaken a culture of enjoining truth, till the world unites on it and clings to the rope from God and rope from humans which is the rope of God.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on April 28, 2017, 11:58:46 AM
I have a life you know.

No doubt!

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But I don't know what should I reply to in this post, do you have a question/statement that you want me to address/discuss?

Yes, you should address why it was okay to dispose of Saddam, Mubaarak, Gadhafi, et cetera - and almost all of these were seen as positive developments among Shias - but now that it is Assad's turn, why are the Shias so worked up?  Keep in mind that I stand neutral; I want people to live and prosper whether it be Iraq, Egypt, Libya or anywhere else for that matter.

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Any Shi'i should condemn all invasions everywhere

Not until the same fate befell Assad and I checked your double-standards.

Let me make myself clear, I oppose any foreign invasion and foreign attempts to change governments, even if that means getting rid of the enemies of the Shi'a (Saddam Hussein) or the allies of the Shi'a (Bashar Al-Assad).
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Kaveh Darius on June 09, 2017, 12:30:25 AM
Anyone with primary  comprehension of Middle-east, are able to see that youre all a bunch of loathful Wahabi working for your overlords in Riyadh. And no, you are not restricted to be from Saudi Barbaria to be their wahabi instrument. And to those who claim to oppose all dictators including the Saudis, and assert these regimes do not represent the Arab majority aspiration, as these regimes have been supporting dictators like Sissi ( supported by gulf countries) or other dictators to be in power rather than the general majority made of MB and other moderate Islamists working for better political alternative than the regimes in the region, ill say you are still a wahhabi and a Saudi puppet.

Whats more notably, must of you often focus on Syria, and hypocriticaly assert to be against all dictators. In spite of frequently posting of false news like the  orchestrated fake toxic attack in Syria, so the terrorist could buy themselves more time,  Still Yemen, in comparison to Syria, are less talked about and are more of a shadow of Syria. The largest terrorist and despot in the globe, the Saudi barbaria,  are orchestrating the must EXTENSIVE MASS MURDER in the world right now in Yemen, starving and murdering 100 000 of innocent people .You're all a bunch of wahabi cowards, HYPOCRITES and PHONIES, like your pimps in Saudi barbaria.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Hadrami on June 09, 2017, 08:30:20 AM
If only saudi barbaria regime has 1/10 of the brain of iran neo majoosi regime, we wont have this much of a mess in the middle east. ME need another king faisal who didnt care what USA&Israel think. He did more for palestine in his few years than 38 years of iranian neo majoosi regime with their empty "death to israel" slogan & current spineless arab royals could ever dream of
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on June 09, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Anyone with primary  comprehension of Middle-east, are able to see that youre all a bunch of loathful Wahabi working for your overlords in Riyadh. And no, you are not restricted to be from Saudi Barbaria to be their wahabi instrument. And to those who claim to oppose all dictators including the Saudis, and assert these regimes do not represent the Arab majority aspiration, as these regimes have been supporting dictators like Sissi ( supported by gulf countries) or other dictators to be in power rather than the general majority made of MB and other moderate Islamists working for better political alternative than the regimes in the region, ill say you are still a wahhabi and a Saudi puppet.

Whats more notably, must of you often focus on Syria, and hypocriticaly assert to be against all dictators. In spite of frequently posting of false news like the  orchestrated fake toxic attack in Syria, so the terrorist could buy themselves more time,  Still Yemen, in comparison to Syria, are less talked about and are more of a shadow of Syria. The largest terrorist and despot in the globe, the Saudi barbaria,  are orchestrating the must EXTENSIVE MASS MURDER in the world right now in Yemen, starving and murdering 100 000 of innocent people .You're all a bunch of wahabi cowards, HYPOCRITES and PHONIES, like your pimps in Saudi barbaria.

lol another brainwashed Shiite with a Russian finger up the part where the sun don't shine

I ain't wahabi you brain dead JOEY,and there are a few in here that aren't, our unity is Islam, this is the reality if SHITISM your ancestors LIED your PARENTS LIED and now your throwing LIES in here......wahabi this wahabi that......you got screwed by a bunch of thugs in Iraq and you asked amreeka to bail you out ( Mosul Iraqi army ran away from a few thugs), the same 3/4 thugs took over your SHITTY parliament your secret agents lol shitite agents couldn't do squat your police your army couldn't even prevent it or stop it YOU COWARDS, your nothing Iran is a nation of shits who follow shitism

We detest the the royals the leaders of Saudi Arabia you brainwashed turd of ibn Saba, your ayatollahs are WORSE, worse than the filth of dogs your hizbushaitaan is a faggot militia than can only attack weak Muslims, heck you need help either from France for Khomeini or you need Russia for Syrian war (cos you were losing and dying like dogs ) or amreeka to help you in Iraq

Your the FILTH of the Middle East it's you shitites who are adding fuel to the fire and believe in a shiity Shiite crescent, it's you who are invading Sunni villages with sectarian tendencies and flying a flag with a picture of some DICK WITH A BEARD and selling it off as a picture of you know who, it's your Iranian shitite government siding with cow piss drinker Hindus and attacking Pakistan and killing on borders

Your full of taqiyya never to be trusted and always against Muslim brotherhood we can see it from tusi till today

Now crawl back up that cretin putins crack and see if the hidden one is still hiding there coz you sure do need him right now all 313 of ya
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Zlatan Ibrahimovic on January 19, 2018, 04:57:28 PM
I return to this thread when ever I need a good laugh. The last comments are quite telling, masha Allah.

I swear this, and angry Arab Sunni political TV talkshow show hosts, best place for a good laugh.

Pssst everyone, in other news, Assad is still in power. More powerful than ever. Saudi is still failing everywhere. And the Sunni world is going to burst any minute now, as if it already hasn't...

Sunnis would be wise to align themselves with Iran politically, 😎
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Khaled on January 19, 2018, 05:53:32 PM
Pssst everyone, in other news, Assad is still in power. More powerful than ever. Saudi is still failing everywhere. And the Sunni world is going to burst any minute now, as if it already hasn't...

Sunnis would be wise to align themselves with Iran politically, 😎

It might be "wise", but just like we didn't align ourselves with Saudi Arabia (US puppet), we won't with Iran (Russian puppet).  The fact that you are happy that Bashar is still in power just shows why there isn't any sort of feeling of brotherhood that the Muslims ever feel with 12ers.  It's ironic that 12ers harp on and on about Karbala, but are the first people to align themselves with the oppressors.

May Allah protect us from the evil of Saudi Arabia and Iran and bring peace back to our lands without the need to rely on the US or Russia.  Inshallah our youth (such as yourself) will wake up from being willing soldiers in this current cold war between the US and Russia.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs Syrian Base
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 19, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
I return to this thread when ever I need a good laugh. The last comments are quite telling, masha Allah.

I swear this, and angry Arab Sunni political TV talkshow show hosts, best place for a good laugh.

Pssst everyone, in other news, Assad is still in power. More powerful than ever. Saudi is still failing everywhere. And the Sunni world is going to burst any minute now, as if it already hasn't...

Sunnis would be wise to align themselves with Iran politically, 😎

Good luck with your Shia crescent alliance with Russia.
Be careful whom you choose as friends my friend.
In the long term, Russia and Iran diverge somewhat on Syria. Iran perceives Syria as within its sphere of influence, which is not very different from how Putin views the former Soviet Union countries that he does not consider real states. Iran is interested in exacerbating sectarian divisions in Syria so that the Assad regime becomes an Iranian client-state with no independent decision-making. Iran is also closer to Assad himself than Putin, who simply wants Assad or someone else like him to ensure his interests in Syria. He cares more about how he can leverage Syria in his relations with the West than Syria itself. At the same time, Putin also increasingly perceives the Middle East as falling within the Russian sphere of influence, albeit differently than Iran. Historically, Moscow always looked for buffer zones out of its sense of insecurity, and this is precisely how it feels now.

Shias would be wise to not align themselves with insecure Russians.😜