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AliTheBalkanic

What Aqeedah is the best ?
« on: April 04, 2017, 06:45:34 AM »
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Salam Alaykoum wa rahmatullah

I am wondering now that i left shiism for good should i follow the salaf aqeedah ? i decided to follow Imam Shafiee (RAH) in fiqh but consider either Abul Hassan al Achari or The salaf madhab in aqeedah. I also think higly of Imam al Ghazali (RAH) and i find sufism very interessing (not the bid3ah one with dances etc). I heard bad about Salafis but i have to say it is the madhab i studied the least . Could a Salafi brother please explain the differences with the Acharis or the matuiridis ??\
JazakhAllah

zaid_ibn_ali

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 04:26:16 PM »
Personally I accept the premise that the aqida which many hanbali's followed (which salafis follow too), ashari, maturidi & athari all are under the spectrum of ahlus sunnah.
They may differ on secondary & rather trivial matters of aqida, but its the extremists from each side who blow it out of proportion.
Stay away from any cult inclined group aswell as extremists amongst each group i.e takfiri salafi's, wayward extreme sufi's etc.
Take the good & leave the bad from whatever sunni sources you have access too.

AliTheBalkanic

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 05:09:08 PM »
Personally I accept the premise that the aqida which many hanbali's followed (which salafis follow too), ashari, maturidi & athari all are under the spectrum of ahlus sunnah.
They may differ on secondary & rather trivial matters of aqida, but its the extremists from each side who blow it out of proportion.
Stay away from any cult inclined group aswell as extremists amongst each group i.e takfiri salafi's, wayward extreme sufi's etc.
Take the good & leave the bad from whatever sunni sources you have access too.
Thank you brother

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Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 06:58:17 PM »
The most  appropriate aqeedah is Athari aqeedah. Have you got twitter or any other social media? Perhaps, we could connect there
They asked how many will be with the one I hate. I said 313

Hani

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2017, 10:09:52 PM »
No group is exclusively upon truth, Ahlul-Sunnah is a combination of various Islamic schools with many great opinions. For a beginner, try a combination of Ash`ari/Athari and compare and contrast which opinions make more sense to you then follow. Make your MAIN book of `Aqidah the Qur'an, stick to it as much as possible.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Rationalist

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 05:11:07 AM »
Salaam brother

We offer classes in Aqeeda, fiqh and hadith. So far  we covered Aqeeda Tahawiyyah, and The  Daf' Shubah al-Tashbih bi-Akaff al-Tanzih by Ibn al-Jawzi.  This coming May 13th we are covered Usool al Fiqh of Imam Shafi.

Rationalist

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2017, 05:15:05 AM »


Right now we have a part time program, and anyone living in Canada is welcome to attend.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2017, 02:40:24 PM »
Well you left the correct aqeedah and therefore all the other options are the same, all batil.
محور المقاومة

kernel

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2017, 01:01:01 AM »
Personally I accept the premise that the aqida which many hanbali's followed (which salafis follow too), ashari, maturidi & athari all are under the spectrum of ahlus sunnah.
They may differ on secondary & rather trivial matters of aqida, but its the extremists from each side who blow it out of proportion.
Stay away from any cult inclined group aswell as extremists amongst each group i.e takfiri salafi's, wayward extreme sufi's etc.
Take the good & leave the bad from whatever sunni sources you have access too.
Thanks so much for this. I don't know much about the aqida but I do know a lot of fiqh.

whoaretheshia

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2019, 02:26:12 AM »
No group is exclusively upon truth, Ahlul-Sunnah is a combination of various Islamic schools with many great opinions. For a beginner, try a combination of Ash`ari/Athari and compare and contrast which opinions make more sense to you then follow. Make your MAIN book of `Aqidah the Qur'an, stick to it as much as possible.

Yet another piece of evidence that Hani tends to merely give what are his own views, irrespective if he is actually going against the vast majority of Sunni scholarship.

The majority of modern day Athari scholars and proper Salafis like Farid regard Asharis are deviants in Aqeedah and not part of the Ahlus-Sunnah wal Jamaah. So i wonder how he will take to his chief writer promoting deviant groups?

The majority of modern day Ashari Sunnis regard Salafis(our day's Athari) as deviants in Aqeedah.

So on what grounds are you advising this brother to choose a group as if it were just choosing a basic Fiqh group? Even in your articles, this very similar pattern of going against fair standards and major scholarship, and just opining can be found, which is very worrying for readers who may rely on TSN to be objective and by fair scholarship standards.
"I leave behind for you two weighty things, which if you hold onto, you will never go astray...the Quran and my Ahlulbayt" - Musnad Ibn Rawayh (al-Albani classes Isnaad *independently* as Hasan, and Matn as authentic, as does Al-Arnaut, Ibn Hajar and others.

Mustafa

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2019, 09:43:41 PM »
Wa alaikum asalam,

If you had recently left Shi'ism. I don't recommend that you jump right into the Ash'ari, Maturidi, and Athari controversies straight away because it's a giant headache filled with so many semantics, going around in circles, etc. What I do recommend though is to focus on learning about the Ibadaat (i.e. Prayer, fasting, Hajj, etc) based on the Shafi'i madhab. Focus on reading the Sirah of the prophet, purification of the heart, reading the Quran with a simple Tafsir on the side to reflect upon the meanings, etc.

As for Aqeedah, go through Aqeedah al Tahawiyyah with someone that can explain to you the book in detail, and just stick with that. The reason is that the information from Aqeedah al Tahawiyyah, as far as I know, is agreed upon by all of Ahl al-Sunnah. So I recommend you stick with that for now.




iceman

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2019, 10:11:14 PM »
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Salam Alaykoum wa rahmatullah

I am wondering now that i left shiism for good should i follow the salaf aqeedah ? i decided to follow Imam Shafiee (RAH) in fiqh but consider either Abul Hassan al Achari or The salaf madhab in aqeedah. I also think higly of Imam al Ghazali (RAH) and i find sufism very interessing (not the bid3ah one with dances etc). I heard bad about Salafis but i have to say it is the madhab i studied the least . Could a Salafi brother please explain the differences with the Acharis or the matuiridis ??\
JazakhAllah

What made you leave Shiaism 😊

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2019, 10:32:43 PM »
What made you leave Shiaism 😊
The Kufria beliefs may be. Example the one which we explained to you about Tahreef. etc

iceman

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2019, 10:53:06 PM »
The Kufria beliefs may be. Example the one which we explained to you about Tahreef. etc

Don't go on assumptions or may be or probably. Put forward facts. Otherwise you're talking wind.

If you're too hesitant, afraid or holding back on answering or explaining something then why is that labelled as Kufria belief.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2019, 10:55:26 PM by iceman »

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2019, 04:01:03 AM »
Don't go on assumptions or may be or probably. Put forward facts. Otherwise you're talking wind.

If you're too hesitant, afraid or holding back on answering or explaining something then why is that labelled as Kufria belief.
It was explained. If you don’t want to admit, that doesn’t mean the reality would change.

The other problematic belief is that belief of Imamate which is against Quran and an attack on finality of Prophethood.

iceman

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2019, 06:04:15 PM »
It was explained. If you don’t want to admit, that doesn’t mean the reality would change.

The other problematic belief is that belief of Imamate which is against Quran and an attack on finality of Prophethood.

HOW? Explain and discuss. If you can that is.

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: What Aqeedah is the best ?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2019, 01:40:27 AM »
HOW? Explain and discuss. If you can that is.
Re-read that discussion.

 

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