Was Mu'awiyah a Nasibi?

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Was Mu'awiyah a Nasibi?
« on: October 03, 2017, 07:04:45 PM »
As Salamu Alaikum,

I was following a discussion between a Sunni and a Shi'i, one of the points the Shi'i brought up from ibn kathir was concerning Mu'awiyah being a Nasibi. How true is this:

# Ibn Kathir summarised the Khulafah of Banu Umayyad as Nasibiyyun:

The Khalifas from Banu Umayyah were like this … ALL OF THEM were Nasibis, except Imam ‘Umar the Pious: Mu'awiyah,
then his son Yazid , then his grandson Mu’awiyah al-Sadid; Marwan, then his son ‘Abd Al-Malik ….

Source: Abu al-Fida ‘Imad al-Din b. Kathir al-Qurshi al-Dimashqi, al-Bidayah wa al-NIhayah (1st edition, 1419 H) vol. 17, p. 375.


Re: Was Mu'awiyah a Nasibi?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 03:57:06 AM »
He had a war with Ali, of course he's classed as Nasibi. I wouldn't generalize and say they were all like this without proof.

Before this, you need to define the word Nasibi, please ask this Shia to define Nasb.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear


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