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Bolani Muslim

Life after Shia questions
« on: December 12, 2014, 01:31:25 AM »
سلام علیک
For all the fellow ex-shias, I have been wondering.
How did your family/friends/community take it?
Are you the only ex-shia you know of?
Do you eat from shias (since they believe in kufr)?
Are you a specific madhab?


Currently I'm planning to tell my family I'm not Shia after I'm married.  :P
Thanks for reading, Allah Hafiz

Ameen

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2014, 01:44:22 AM »
سلام علیک
For all the fellow ex-shias, I have been wondering.
How did your family/friends/community take it?
Are you the only ex-shia you know of?
Do you eat from shias (since they believe in kufr)?
Are you a specific madhab?


Currently I'm planning to tell my family I'm not Shia after I'm married.  :P
Thanks for reading, Allah Hafiz

Are you also going to take the opinion of Ex Sunnis??? How they must feel??? I'm sure their feelings must also be brought in to consideration. Since they believe in Kufar??? Wow! A big statement but I'm sure it can't be backed by anything. So tell me what made you become an Ex Shia??? Congratulations on becoming a Sunni. Would you mind telling me which Sunni have you become and why??? They have four schools of thought so which one have you taken on and why??? I don't think I'm going to here from you now. If I do I'm sure it wont be positive but lets see.

Ebn Hussein

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2014, 02:07:17 AM »
Brother Bolani, Salam Alaykum.

There are a number of Ex-Shias on this board. Brother Husayn, Efendi (owner of gift2shias.com) and myself. There are some threads about Ex-Shias on this forum:

The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]: http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/the-rise-of-the-sunnais-ex-shias-%28video%29/

Why I left Shiasm (by Husayn. A Rafidi  member from the old forum whom I debated myself for literally TEN years till he became Muslim!!!): http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/why-i-left-shiaism/

As for my story, well It's a bit long, maybe I write something about it one day, as for now here is ONE of MANY main reasons why I believe that Shiism is the religion of satan and the unholy progeny of satan (it's written by myself but from brother Ibn Al-Hindi's aka swords of sunnah's amazing blog) and not the religion and school of the Ahl Al-Bayt:

http://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/from-whom-do-you-take-your-religion/

As for our families, well, it's kinda private question, but those who like can answer of course. May Allah bless you for leaving the religion of shirk for Islam, Tawhid and Sunnah.

As for schools of thought. These are Fiqhi schools, ever rotten Marja' is a fiqhi school (they differ on tons of issues, from najasat, to the ruling of the jumu3a prayer), so don't be bothered by the cheap shots of the Rawafid. What is important is that you are a Muslim now (whatever fiqh you follow) and not an Imamite Mushrik.
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Ebn Hussein

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2014, 02:08:50 AM »
I don't think I'm going to here from you now. If I do I'm sure it wont be positive but lets see.

Clear sign of ta3assub/bias. Zindiqs like you will only get impressed by zandaqah, not by tawhid and iman, so get out of here if you have already made up your mind.
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Taha

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2014, 04:36:07 AM »
I'm an ex-Sunni and my family took it fabulously.  They got worried when I got religious, thought I would go join al-Qa'idah.  So when I became a Shia they were happy because they knew I wouldn't blow people up.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


To be fair though, 99.9999999% of my family isn't religious at all.  Just my grandma.  And my aunt.  And my gay cousin  :-\

Farid

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2014, 01:55:17 PM »
To be fair though, 99.9999999% of my family isn't religious at all.  Just my grandma.  And my aunt.  And my gay cousin  :-\

I lol'ed @ gay cousin being religious.  =))

Hani

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2014, 06:06:20 PM »
Are you a specific madhab?
Do you eat from shias (since they believe in kufr)?


You can pick any Madhab you like, they're all the same.


And we eat from Shia yes.

عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Hani

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2014, 06:09:21 PM »
I lol'ed @ gay cousin being religious.  =))


It makes things a lot spicier.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ameen

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2014, 07:16:38 PM »
Brother Bolani, Salam Alaykum.

There are a number of Ex-Shias on this board. Brother Husayn, Efendi (owner of gift2shias.com) and myself. There are some threads about Ex-Shias on this forum:

The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]: http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/the-rise-of-the-sunnais-ex-shias-%28video%29/

Why I left Shiasm (by Husayn. A Rafidi  member from the old forum whom I debated myself for literally TEN years till he became Muslim!!!): http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/why-i-left-shiaism/

As for my story, well It's a bit long, maybe I write something about it one day, as for now here is ONE of MANY main reasons why I believe that Shiism is the religion of satan and the unholy progeny of satan (it's written by myself but from brother Ibn Al-Hindi's aka swords of sunnah's amazing blog) and not the religion and school of the Ahl Al-Bayt:

http://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/from-whom-do-you-take-your-religion/

As for our families, well, it's kinda private question, but those who like can answer of course. May Allah bless you for leaving the religion of shirk for Islam, Tawhid and Sunnah.

As for schools of thought. These are Fiqhi schools, ever rotten Marja' is a fiqhi school (they differ on tons of issues, from najasat, to the ruling of the jumu3a prayer), so don't be bothered by the cheap shots of the Rawafid. What is important is that you are a Muslim now (whatever fiqh you follow) and not an Imamite Mushrik.

Big talk we have here from you as usual. But I'm afraid that's all it is. Nothing positive and nothing constructive. There never has been. Just slander and attacks. You can't declare and introduce yourself, who, why and what you are and this is for sure, never mind about promoting your belief and faith. This is out of the question. This is your misfortune. Hey you can't even discuss and debate on Shiasim on fair and just terms with a balanced approach, never mind about proving it wrong. So tell me what is your alternative???  Or what is the alternative??? You slandered and attacked Shiaism for ten years and then he finally became a Muslim??? Is that it??? Is that the alternative??? So how did he become a Muslim??? By saying the two Shahadas??? By giving the two testimonies??? Well my friend if you're Shia, you still say and believe in the two Shahadas. So what seems to be the difference here??? If you're a Shia you say and believe in the two Shahadas and if you're a Sunni you're the same to begin with. Both are Muslims, so how was he Kafir to begin with??? And then what different did he have to say and do, to become a Sunni??? After a ten year debate with you he didn't become a Muslim, since he already was one. And if you can prove me wrong then I would like to see that. So which Sunni did he become??? There is a hell of a lot of difference between the four schools of thought. And if there isn't then which Sunni did he become and why not the other??? Or do you need another ten years to sort this out as well. Get out of here if i haven't already made up my mind??? Rather than asking me to get out of here why don'y you GET IN HERE and start do discuss all your grievances with me, one by one like a MATURE individual and a TRUE gentlemen. Or are you going to look for the easy route AGAIN and look for a cheap and lame excuse to ban me. So what's it going to be??? Are you finally going to step up to me??? Bring it on one by one! And you know from me it has always been a humble request. Your agents on Shia chat have issued challenges. Well lets see what you got!

Ameen

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2014, 07:20:12 PM »
Are you a specific madhab?
Do you eat from shias (since they believe in kufr)?


You can pick any Madhab you like, they're all the same.


And we eat from Shia yes.
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And you eat from Shias??? Really??? I thought Shias were Kafir according to you boys. Is a Kafir not najas according to you??? May be you can enlighten me about najaasath according to you.

Ameen

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2014, 07:24:59 PM »
I don't think I'm going to here from you now. If I do I'm sure it wont be positive but lets see.

Clear sign of ta3assub/bias. Zindiqs like you will only get impressed by zandaqah, not by tawhid and iman, so get out of here if you have already made up your mind.

I see that you still haven't grown out of your childish behaviour. But come on, you can do better than that! Why don't you bring this Tawheed and Eemaan to begin with rather than the childish behaviour. I'm here and I would like to here your version of Tawheed and Eemaan.

Hani

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2014, 08:18:00 PM »

And you eat from Shias??? Really??? I thought Shias were Kafir according to you boys. Is a Kafir not najas according to you??? May be you can enlighten me about najaasath according to you.


You're the boy, have some self respect.




Quote
There is a hell of a lot of difference between the four schools of thought. And if there isn't then which Sunni did he become and why not the other???


If you bothered to open one book of Fiqh in your life, you'd know that what you said is false.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2014, 08:36:41 PM by Hani »
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Taha

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2014, 08:24:44 PM »
I lol'ed @ gay cousin being religious.  =))

Yeah lol. He is the only one in my family that has a problem with Shias. Said I was going to hell.

On the other hand, he just recently gay married his long time boyfriend that he lives with. So I'm not sure how serious to take him.

Hani

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2014, 08:33:43 PM »
Yeah lol. He is the only one in my family that has a problem with Shias. Said I was going to hell.

On the other hand, he just recently gay married his long time boyfriend that he lives with. So I'm not sure how serious to take him.


Your gay relatives aside, do you want to remain upon this path that you are on? Or don't you see any problems at all with Tashayyu`?
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Farid

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2014, 08:55:15 PM »


On the other hand, he just recently gay married his long time boyfriend that he lives with. So I'm not sure how serious to take him.

Oh, you're just upset you weren't invited to the wedding. ;p

Ebn Hussein

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2014, 09:08:50 PM »


Quote
Oh, you're just upset you weren't invited to the wedding. ;p

^ ;D
« Last Edit: December 12, 2014, 09:11:01 PM by Hani »
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Ameen

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2014, 09:59:06 PM »


Quote
Oh, you're just upset you weren't invited to the wedding. ;p

^ ;D

I didn't know you were in to weddings as well, apart from Shia bitterness, hatred and envy. So who's getting married??? Once you tell me then the question of getting upset or not can arise.

Hadrami

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2014, 01:16:14 AM »
I lol'ed @ gay cousin being religious.  =))

Yeah lol. He is the only one in my family that has a problem with Shias. Said I was going to hell.

On the other hand, he just recently gay married his long time boyfriend that he lives with. So I'm not sure how serious to take him.

yuck i shiver just thinking about it...but you do know that in the end of the day, a gay is still much much "better" or less evil than a musyrik right?

Bolani Muslim

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2014, 03:13:57 AM »
Brother Bolani, Salam Alaykum.

There are a number of Ex-Shias on this board. Brother Husayn, Efendi (owner of gift2shias.com) and myself. There are some threads about Ex-Shias on this forum:

...

As for schools of thought. These are Fiqhi schools, ever rotten Marja' is a fiqhi school (they differ on tons of issues, from najasat, to the ruling of the jumu3a prayer), so don't be bothered by the cheap shots of the Rawafid. What is important is that you are a Muslim now (whatever fiqh you follow) and not an Imamite Mushrik.
The article you wrote was really good, a lot better than the posts I've read from ex-sunnis (who are usually ignorant about their faith)

To be fair though, 99.9999999% of my family isn't religious at all.  Just my grandma.  And my aunt.  And my gay cousin  :-\
How can your cousin call himself religious and practice sodomy, then tell you you're going to hell? Did he do a 'nikah' or no? This is too weird  :o

Hani

Re: Life after Shia questions
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2014, 02:06:01 PM »
How can your cousin call himself religious and practice sodomy, then tell you you're going to hell? Did he do a 'nikah' or no? This is too weird  :o


Don't believe people's random stories online brother.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

 

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