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Mutah fatwas pdf
« on: March 21, 2020, 10:34:06 AM »
Aslamo alaikum
The pdf link , under brother Hani's video 'shia mutah marraige rulings' isn't working. If anybody has an alternate link or a pdf for that matter please share.
Jazakallaha khyran

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Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2020, 04:00:27 PM »
Aslamo alaikum
The pdf link , under brother Hani's video 'shia mutah marraige rulings' isn't working. If anybody has an alternate link or a pdf for that matter please share.
Jazakallaha khyran

Walaikum Salam,

This link under the video is working:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/0ekta97o2eo2ye8/Mutah_Fatwas.txt/file

The above is only in Arabic, I will share with you the translations later.
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Soccer

Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2020, 05:35:06 PM »
Muta is neither forbidden nor is it allowed they way Shiites have allowed it.

The Quran reveals it but with explicit conditions. And Malakat aymanihim has two forms, marriage and muta, and so in most places refers to Muta, but the "except who malakat aymanihim" in verse of Muta refers their to the ones they are married to and not slaves. It's a way of saying you can have sex with who you are married to of course, but also, saying it's a form of who their oath give reign over (sexually).

And it's oath to God and the Messenger and those who hold authority from us, as well, to all believers, as well, to your society, and to all humanity.

And there is two forms, according to the verse of Muta of this. The first is marriage, the 2nd is Muta. Then the following verse explains and emphasizes the terms of Muta and why to do it.

The only hadith that has it right really is from Ibn Abbas, it's allowed it certain conditions.  These days, as career and prime strength financially and mentally is way later, we ought to see that a lot of people fall under those conditions and it's too much to ask all humans to forbid their sexual drive.

And Prophet doing it would be only for relief of haraj on it for believers and also showing a way of getting to know women before marrying them is a possible intention.

But marriage is the prime and mode most people ought to adopt, and the verse after shows, the primary reason and conditions for Muta.

Slavery was never and will never be allowed in Islam.
"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

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Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2020, 05:40:27 PM »
There are of course ahadith that confirm the one from Ibn Abbas in Shiites sources, but Fuqaha don't rely on them.

The problem is referring to Quran is just a theory, in practice it doesn't happen.

Hadiths that outright permit contradict Quran and hadiths that outright forbid it contradict Quran.

The Quran allows it but with specific conditions.

"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

TAHIR

Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2020, 07:50:36 AM »
Walaikum Salam,

This link under the video is working:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/0ekta97o2eo2ye8/Mutah_Fatwas.txt/file

The above is only in Arabic, I will share with you the translations later.

You have been a blessing
Alllah bless you more aameen

TAHIR

Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2020, 07:53:45 AM »
Muta is neither forbidden nor is it allowed they way Shiites have allowed it.

The Quran reveals it but with explicit conditions. And Malakat aymanihim has two forms, marriage and muta, and so in most places refers to Muta, but the "except who malakat aymanihim" in verse of Muta refers their to the ones they are married to and not slaves. It's a way of saying you can have sex with who you are married to of course, but also, saying it's a form of who their oath give reign over (sexually).

And it's oath to God and the Messenger and those who hold authority from us, as well, to all believers, as well, to your society, and to all humanity.

And there is two forms, according to the verse of Muta of this. The first is marriage, the 2nd is Muta. Then the following verse explains and emphasizes the terms of Muta and why to do it.

The only hadith that has it right really is from Ibn Abbas, it's allowed it certain conditions.  These days, as career and prime strength financially and mentally is way later, we ought to see that a lot of people fall under those conditions and it's too much to ask all humans to forbid their sexual drive.

And Prophet doing it would be only for relief of haraj on it for believers and also showing a way of getting to know women before marrying them is a possible intention.

But marriage is the prime and mode most people ought to adopt, and the verse after shows, the primary reason and conditions for Muta.

Slavery was never and will never be allowed in Islam.

Without getting into details , you have to identify , what group you belong to .
All sunnis are wrong in banning it and likewise all shias are wrong in allowing it generally, you can't be the lone upholder of truth identify yourself and we may proceed

Soccer

Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2020, 05:42:10 AM »
No group upholds the truth in the open today. 
"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

TAHIR

Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2020, 10:17:08 AM »
No group upholds the truth in the open today. 
Do you claim truth disappeared for 1400 years and all of a sudden you rediscovered it ?
Allah promises to preserve his religion and any ruling all of a sudden, from the blues is rejected

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Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2020, 05:23:49 PM »
Compilation of Mutah Fatwas by Shia scholars translated into English:
https://twitter.com/bu_noor89/status/1214482094887514112
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2020, 04:13:46 PM »
There are of course ahadith that confirm the one from Ibn Abbas in Shiites sources, but Fuqaha don't rely on them.

The problem is referring to Quran is just a theory, in practice it doesn't happen.

Hadiths that outright permit contradict Quran and hadiths that outright forbid it contradict Quran.

The Quran allows it but with specific conditions.

They know the score. Their aim and purpose is just to paint a picture about the Shia community and its belief on it. That's their prime concern just about in every matter. They want to tell about the Shia belief and faith but in their words and they want to show a picture by their painting.

Soccer

Re: Mutah fatwas pdf
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2020, 05:04:18 PM »
They know the score. Their aim and purpose is just to paint a picture about the Shia community and its belief on it. That's their prime concern just about in every matter. They want to tell about the Shia belief and faith but in their words and they want to show a picture by their painting.

What these people don't understand is that Islam, Shiism, Sunnism, Wahabism/Salafism, etc, is all undefined.

They mean sort of something but at the same sort of nothing. 

We fight over what to attribute the label whether from insider or outsider perspective, it's not a reality, and is undefined.

Islam like all other religions are false.  Mohammad (s) is a true Messenger of God and the Quran is a direct revelation from God to Gabriel (a) to Mohammad (s) but Islam is a false religion.

Islam doesn't mean what it meant during Mohammad (s) time, and Mohammad (s) was neither Shiite or Sunni, despite the creed of twelve Navigating successors a firmly established truth in both the Quran and Sunnah.

These titles don't apply to Abraham (a) or Moses (a) or Mohamad (s). Mohammad (s) was not a Muslim, but it's true he submitted to God fully and was upright.

Till people understand titles have become meaningless in this age as titles became meaningless in the past, and most of those claiming it falsely representing it,  then we can't unite and move forward.

There is Islam as is, and submission to God as it's meant to be, and the difference between these two today, is the difference between sky and earth, night and day.

"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

 

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