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Shiism and the reform of Islam

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scusemyenglish

Shiism and the reform of Islam
« on: February 19, 2016, 06:49:04 PM »
Sorry I hope my post is faithful with your rules...

I want to speak about the project of reform of Islam...

I don't know if you Know RALPH PETERS?

Ralph Peters is a strategist american who want remodeled the middle east...

Look this map made in 2006... It predicted the destruction of Islamic world.






But the most important that he says " after the destruction of the Islamic wold. we must propose a "New Islam" . A reform of Islam . He compare that with "Vatican 2" for christian...  He says " we must offer holy land "Mecca and Medina" to another muslims...

But the most important thing and when you show this map . We look that Shias has all the Oil.

Look the map of shia area and the map of Oil.


We can see Shia areas concure with the Oil... And Also Iran is not very touched by this "adjustement" And above all Shias they will have all the Oil contrary to sunnis countries like Saoudi and others... SHIAS ARE IN GREEN AND THE OIL IN BLACK OF COURSE.

I think it's clear. American and Israelian strategist want to give the power for shias.

For One main goal. Because the shia methodology allow a reform of Islam because if you want to call into question the Coran or the the real Islamic creed there is no better than Shiisme.

For conclude look Adnan Ibrahim. The man who used the, shia methodology, welcomed in Paris by the jew community for "The reform of Islam"

It's funny to see the man who is againt the power of Mouawiya but not againt the power of financial world...




For me the increase of Shiisme is also linked with a willpower, a wish of American strategist of destroye Islam  for the next years.



Sorry I hope I'am not in opposition with rules...
« Last Edit: February 19, 2016, 07:13:27 PM by scusemyenglish »
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

Ibn Yahya

Re: Shiism and the reform of Islam
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 08:02:35 PM »
Their recent gain of power will be short lived. Despite what the Ayatollahs want us to think, Shi'ism is a declining religion. For example in Iran the Sunni population is expected to grow hugely and the Shi'i population is going to decline because Iranian Shi'is have usually one or two kids while Sunnis have more.

Rationalist

Re: Shiism and the reform of Islam
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 05:40:49 AM »
In this scenario the extremist Sunnis and Shia will wipe each other out. They will most likely invade Saudi Arabia, but they won't be able to hold on to it for long.

scusemyenglish

Re: Shiism and the reform of Islam
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2016, 12:55:22 PM »
In this scenario the extremist Sunnis and Shia will wipe each other out.

Yes Ralph Peters call that. "borders of blood"...

It for that Saoudi are more demonized in mass media. Contrary to Iran. Iran they are introduce like more respectable now. And My personal opinion american strategist will give the project of reform of islam to Shias or to "muslims" like Adnan Ibrahim with an Shias methodology. If we can called that "methodology"...

For example in France or in the maghreb hear about shiism is a new thing...
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

Rationalist

Re: Shiism and the reform of Islam
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 02:13:19 AM »
The difference between the Sunni and the Shia extremist is Taqiyyah. The Sunni extremist will openly show his hatred toward his opponent. Whereas the Shia will equally hate, but will blame all the hate he feels toward his opponent.

So for example if a Sunni extremist kills someone he will broadcast it to the world. Whereas the Shia extremist will kill the Sunni, cover it up and tell the whole world he didn't kill anyone. On top of  that he will continue to propagate that Sunnis are killing Shias.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2016, 02:17:59 AM by Rationalist »

demmzy15

Re: Shiism and the reform of Islam
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 03:03:36 PM »
In this scenario the extremist Sunnis and Shia will wipe each other out. They will most likely invade Saudi Arabia, but they won't be able to hold on to it for long.
Exactly brother, the Khawarij vs Rawafid. When engaging each other, Ahl Sunnah would just sit and look from the sidelines.

scusemyenglish

Re: Shiism and the reform of Islam
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2016, 01:07:29 AM »
Abdallah Ibn Arm reports the messenger (pum) said.

" There will be a terrible war witch will decimate arabs peoples. Tongue will cause damage more than weapons..."


There are some weakness in this isnad.
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

scusemyenglish

Re: Shiism and the reform of Islam
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2016, 01:13:24 AM »
I don't know if you have noticed that but in far right web site. they are suddently become "pro-Ali" since 1,2 years.  :D
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

Rationalist

Re: Shiism and the reform of Islam
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2016, 07:38:06 AM »
The 12ers will reach Arabia and will find the real Mahdi. When they will see that he doesn't do tabarra against Abi Bakr and Umar, they will reject him like the Rafida did with Imam Zayd bin Ali.

 

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