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Title: The Imam ridicules a man and can't give a straight answer
Post by: Husayn on February 24, 2015, 09:50:03 PM
Al Kafi

H 595, Ch. 32, h 6

Muhammad has narrated from Ahmad from Ali ibn Nu‘man, in a marfu’ manner (rafa'ahu)
from abu Ja‘far (a.s.) who has said the following:

 "They try to absorb the little moisture but ignore the huge river." Someone asked him, "What is (this) huge river?" The Imams (a.s.)said, "It is the Messenger of Allah (s.a.) and the Knowledge that Allah gave to him. Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, combined in Muhammad (s.a.) the Sunnah (traditions) of the all the prophets from Adam onwards to Muhammad (s.a.)." Someone asked him, "What are those sunnah (traditions)?" The Imams (a.s.) said, "They are all the knowledge of the prophets (s.a.). The Messenger of Allah transferred all of them to Amir al-Mu’minin Ali (a.s.)." The man then said, "O son of the Messenger of Allah, is Amir al-Mu’minin Ali (a.s.) more knowledgeable or some of the prophets?" Abu Ja‘far (a.s.) replied, "Listen, everyone to what he just said. Allah opens the ears of whoever He wants. I said to him that Allah combined for
Muhammad (s.a.) the knowledge of the prophets and he combined all of it with Amir al- Mu’minin Ali (a.s.). He now asks me, "Was he (Ali (a.s.) more knowledgeable or some of the prophets?"
Title: Re: The Imam ridicules a man and can't give a straight answer
Post by: Rationalist on February 24, 2015, 10:31:56 PM
This is what happens when the extremist get involved in tampering a school so it can complete against the other schools.
Title: Re: The Imam ridicules a man and can't give a straight answer
Post by: Furkan on February 24, 2015, 10:50:45 PM
Yes, the shiites believe that imams have the same knowledge as rasullulah (saw).
Title: Re: The Imam ridicules a man and can't give a straight answer
Post by: Hani on February 24, 2015, 11:35:50 PM
Ghulaat want to attribute Zandaqah to their Imams.

They can only blame themselves for losing the true teachings of Ahlul-Bayt. At least the Zaydiyyah tried to represent more accurately the Madhab of their Imams (Who were extremists from Banu Hashim), yet the Twelvers completely distorted the Madhab of their own Imams.