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What should our belief be about yazeed?

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Optimus Prime

Re: What should our belief be about yazeed?
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2015, 03:05:50 AM »
& here is a very interesting hadith for all those who represent the Ahlus sunnah:


Narrated Ibn AN Nu' aim : A person
asked 'AbdullAh bin 'Umar whether a
Muhrim (a person in the state of Ihram)
could kill flies. I heard him saying (in reply),
"The people of Iraq are asking about the
killing of flies while they themselves
murdered the son of the daughter of Allah's
Messenger ;. And the Prophet 40 said,
'They (i.e., Al-klasan and A]-Husain) are my
two sweet basils 1 in this world.'"


http://sunnah.com/bukhari/62/100

Yeah, I've come across this narration before.

Regarding your last minute edit. That's a neat interpretation except the Kufans didn't actually deliver the final blow, but it was certain members from Umar ibn Sa'd's army.

Did ibn Umar (RA) forget that or perhaps he means they're one of the parties responsible for not coming out to defend him?
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 03:12:06 AM by Imam Ali »

Invoker

Re: What should our belief be about yazeed?
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2015, 03:11:06 AM »
& here is a very interesting hadith for all those who represent the Ahlus sunnah:


Narrated Ibn AN Nu' aim : A person
asked 'AbdullAh bin 'Umar whether a
Muhrim (a person in the state of Ihram)
could kill flies. I heard him saying (in reply),
"The people of Iraq are asking about the
killing of flies while they themselves
murdered the son of the daughter of Allah's
Messenger ;. And the Prophet 40 said,
'They (i.e., Al-klasan and A]-Husain) are my
two sweet basils 1 in this world.'"


http://sunnah.com/bukhari/62/100

Yeah, I've come across this narration before.


& yet u r going against Abdullah ibn Umar's view.

Optimus Prime

Re: What should our belief be about yazeed?
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2015, 03:14:30 AM »
& here is a very interesting hadith for all those who represent the Ahlus sunnah:


Narrated Ibn AN Nu' aim : A person
asked 'AbdullAh bin 'Umar whether a
Muhrim (a person in the state of Ihram)
could kill flies. I heard him saying (in reply),
"The people of Iraq are asking about the
killing of flies while they themselves
murdered the son of the daughter of Allah's
Messenger ;. And the Prophet 40 said,
'They (i.e., Al-klasan and A]-Husain) are my
two sweet basils 1 in this world.'"


http://sunnah.com/bukhari/62/100

Yeah, I've come across this narration before.


& yet u r going against Abdullah ibn Umar's view.

Read my last post.

I think your understanding of the entire thing is a little skewed, brother. You've not addresed cetain points with regards who killed Muslim ibm Aqeel and who was to blame, and again I believe there were many people to who were blameworthy. Yazid is the least of them and I do not believe he outirght intended to remove Hussain (RA) from the picture.

We'll just have to agree or disagree.

I suggest you watch this in your spare time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN1tPyHAgAo
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 03:16:05 AM by Imam Ali »

Suleiman

Re: What should our belief be about yazeed?
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2015, 03:14:51 AM »
The Kufan shia were definitely to blame.

Yazeed shares the blame indirectly. He's dead and Allah will judge him and He's the best of Judges. It doesn't make any difference to our theology.

Unlike the shia our religion comes from Allah and his Messenger not political disputes.

Optimus Prime

Re: What should our belief be about yazeed?
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2015, 03:16:44 AM »
The Kufan shia were definitely to blame.

Yazeed shares the blame indirectly. He's dead and Allah will judge him and He's the best of Judges. It doesn't make any difference to our theology.

Unlike the shia our religion comes from Allah and his Messenger not political disputes.

Agreed, and exactly my point.

Ibn Al Qayyim

Re: What should our belief be about yazeed?
« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2016, 02:32:36 PM »
I am a Sunni Muslim, I am very confused regarding the issue of yazeed!, was he a Muslim or a kaafir?

Can I have evidence aswell please?

 we ahlul sunnah say yazeed was a muslim but a fasiq. we the ahlul sunnah dont like yazeed but we dont hate yazeed either. The ahlul sunnah dont curse yazeed either.

al-Habib

Re: What should our belief be about yazeed?
« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2016, 11:15:57 PM »
Someone asked why Yazeed wasn't a Tabi'ee. 

The Tabi'een are the second of the three generations of the Salaf.  The Salaf are:

- Sahaba generation
- The generation of those who learned from the sahaba (Tabi'een)
- The generation of those who learned from the tabi'een (Atba' Tabi'een)

Yazid wasn't a tabi'ee because he wasn't from the ahl al 'ilm who learnt from the sahaba.  And Allah knows best.

 

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