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Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths

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Optimus Prime

in our own sources?

Furkan

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2015, 03:48:16 AM »
Yes, but very few since they were pretty young when Rasululah (saw) was still alive.
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Optimus Prime

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2015, 03:54:48 AM »
Yes, but very few since they were pretty young when Rasululah (saw) was still alive.

Example?

Hani

عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Optimus Prime

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2015, 09:53:43 PM »
Can someone post a narration from Fatima or Hussain? I've never come across any such in my life.

Khaled

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2015, 01:27:26 AM »
I don't know how good your Arabic is, but here is the Musnad of Ahl Al-Bayt in Musnad Ahmad, it has reports from Al-Hassan, Al-Hussayn, Aqeel, Ja'far, and Abdullah bin Ja'far رضي الله عنهم.

http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=1625&idto=1670&bk_no=6&ID=20
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Optimus Prime

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2015, 03:50:43 AM »
I don't know how good your Arabic is, but here is the Musnad of Ahl Al-Bayt in Musnad Ahmad, it has reports from Al-Hassan, Al-Hussayn, Aqeel, Ja'far, and Abdullah bin Ja'far رضي الله عنهم.

http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=1625&idto=1670&bk_no=6&ID=20

I don't know Arabic at all, but I guess I can always geddit translated. Thanks. :D

Any narrations Fatima narrated?

Farid

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2015, 09:32:49 AM »
Al Suyuti says in Al Thughoor Al Baasima that all of Fatima's narrations do not exceed ten.

The most famous one is the narration in which the Prophet peace be upon him tells her that he will soon die and that she is the Sayida of the women of heaven.

Optimus Prime

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2015, 09:49:07 PM »
Al Suyuti says in Al Thughoor Al Baasima that all of Fatima's narrations do not exceed ten.

The most famous one is the narration in which the Prophet peace be upon him tells her that he will soon die and that she is the Sayida of the women of heaven.

Brother, Farid. Can you post the actual narration, please?

Farid

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2015, 12:59:57 AM »
http://www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/muslim/031_smt.html

Saheeh Muslim 6003:

'A'isha reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) called his daughter Fatima (during his last illness). He said. to her something secretly and she wept. He again said to her something secretly and she laughed. 'A'isha further reported that she said to Fatima: What is that which Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to you secretly and you wept and then said to you something secretly and you laughed? Thereupon she said: He informed me secretly of his death and so I wept. He then again informed me secretly that I would be the first amongst the members of his family to follow him and so I laughed.

Also see 6004 and 6005.

Optimus Prime

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2015, 05:10:08 AM »
Jazak'Allah Farid.

Maybe, I'm getting confused, but that's narrated by Aisha isn't it?

Has Fatima not narrated a Hadith herself like Anas, Aisha, ibn Umar etc. have?

zaid_ibn_ali

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2015, 05:28:00 AM »
Fatima (may Allah be pleased with her) passed something like 6 months after rasoolallah (peace & blessings be upon him). So its likely that anyone who would of met her, would have met him too. I.e. a sahabi who would have narrated directly from him rather than her.
The tabaeen narrated from the sahaba, hence many narrations going through sahaba like Ibn Umar & Abu Huraira (may Allah be pleased with them) as they lived for many years after the passing of thr holy prophet (peace & blessings be upon him).
Unlikely many if even few tabaeen met fatima (may Allah tbe pleased with her) & hence why few narrations.

Muhammad Tazin

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2015, 11:51:40 AM »

I don't know Arabic at all, but I guess I can always geddit translated. Thanks. :D

Any narrations Fatima narrated?

As Salamu Alaikum,
here are Ahadith narrated by Fatima(r.a.), Hassan(r.a) & Hussain(r.a.) available in Siahah al sittah, with grading & translation -
1) Fatima(r.a.):
Sunan Abu Daud http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=2&Rows=1&SID=63&head=Sunan%20Abi%20Da%27ud%20[Narrated%20by%20Fatima%20bint%20Muhammad%20%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%85%D8%A9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1%20%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%AA%20%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87]

Sunan Nasai  http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=4&Rows=6&SID=63&head=Sunan%20an-Nasa%27i%20[Narrated%20by%20Fatima%20bint%20Muhammad%20%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%85%D8%A9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1%20%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%AA%20%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87]

Sunan ibn Majah  http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=5&Rows=2&SID=63&head=Sunan%20Ibn%20Majah%20[Narrated%20by%20Fatima%20bint%20Muhammad%20%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%85%D8%A9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1%20%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%AA%20%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87]

2) Hassan bin Ali(r.a.)

Bukharihttp://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=0&Rows=1&SID=30&head=Sahih%20Bukhari%20[Narrated%20by%20Hassan%20ibn%20Ali%20bin%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]   

Muslim http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=1&Rows=1&SID=30&head=Sahih%20Muslim%20[Narrated%20by%20Hassan%20ibn%20Ali%20bin%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]   

Sunan Abu Daud  http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=2&Rows=31&SID=30&head=Sunan%20Abi%20Da%27ud%20[Narrated%20by%20Hassan%20ibn%20Ali%20bin%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

Tirmidhi http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=3&Rows=8&SID=30&head=Jami%27%20al-Tirmidhi%20[Narrated%20by%20Hassan%20ibn%20Ali%20bin%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

Sunan Nasai  http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=4&Rows=3&SID=30&head=Sunan%20an-Nasa%27i%20[Narrated%20by%20Hassan%20ibn%20Ali%20bin%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

Ibn Majah http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=5&Rows=3&SID=30&head=Sunan%20Ibn%20Majah%20[Narrated%20by%20Hassan%20ibn%20Ali%20bin%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

3) Hussain bin Ali(r.a.) :

Bukhari http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=0&Rows=8&SID=31&head=Sahih%20Bukhari%20[Narrated%20by%20Hussain%20ibn%20%27Ali%20ibn%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

Muslim http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=1&Rows=1&SID=31&head=Sahih%20Muslim%20[Narrated%20by%20Hussain%20ibn%20%27Ali%20ibn%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

Abu Daud http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=2&Rows=20&SID=31&head=Sunan%20Abi%20Da%27ud%20[Narrated%20by%20Hussain%20ibn%20%27Ali%20ibn%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

Tirmidhi http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=3&Rows=1&SID=31&head=Jami%27%20al-Tirmidhi%20[Narrated%20by%20Hussain%20ibn%20%27Ali%20ibn%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

Sunan Nasai http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=4&Rows=1&SID=31&head=Sunan%20an-Nasa%27i%20[Narrated%20by%20Hussain%20ibn%20%27Ali%20ibn%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

Ibn MAjah http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=5&Rows=2&SID=31&head=Sunan%20Ibn%20Majah%20[Narrated%20by%20Hussain%20ibn%20%27Ali%20ibn%20Abi%20Talib%20%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%20%D8%A8%D9%86%20%D8%A3%EF%BA%91%EF%BB%B2%20%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8]

I think other brothers have explained quite well that, why they did not narrated scarce of Hadith.
There are much more,in other kitabs. but you barely can get English translation

Farid

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2015, 04:05:50 PM »
@ Imam Ali: It is a narration by A'isha from Fatima from the Prophet peace be upon him. A'isha did not hear from him directly, thus, it is not her hadith.

Optimus Prime

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2015, 05:22:52 PM »
@ Imam Ali: It is a narration by A'isha from Fatima from the Prophet peace be upon him. A'isha did not hear from him directly, thus, it is not her hadith.

What about narrations like these:

http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadith.php?ID=4&Rows=6&SID=63&head=Sunan%20an-Nasa%27i

Asmia bint Abi Bakr (RA) is narrating from the Prophet (SAW), but the brother above claims this is Fatima's (RA) Hadith.

Farid

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2015, 06:26:38 PM »
Fatima didn't narrate from Asma. Asma' died around sixty years after the Prophet peace be upon him.

If Fatima narrates from Asma' then she is Fatima bint Al Munthir the wife of Hisham bin Urwah.

Optimus Prime

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2015, 08:38:54 PM »
Farid, thanks for your patience.

Take a look at the link, it says Fatima bint Mohammed (RA).

 Chain: 'Abdah bin Sulaiman al-Klabi     ——»    Hisham bin 'Urwa     ——»    Fatima bint Muhammad     ——»    Asma' bint Abi Bakr   

Khaled

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2015, 09:01:59 PM »
Farid, thanks for your patience.

Take a look at the link, it says Fatima bint Mohammed (RA).

 Chain: 'Abdah bin Sulaiman al-Klabi     ——»    Hisham bin 'Urwa     ——»    Fatima bint Muhammad     ——»    Asma' bint Abi Bakr

If you notice the chain in Arabic just says Fatima, it doesn't say Fatima bint Muhammad.  According to the books of Jarh wa Tadeel, the Fatimah who narrated from Asma is named Fatima bint al Mundhir bin Zubayr bin al-Awam.   Asma was married to az-Zubayr, and Mundhir is one of their children, therefore, this Faitma is Asma's granddaughter.  She is considered Thiqah and has narrations in the Six Books
كلُّ سُلامى من الناس عليه صدقة كلَّ يوم تطلع فيه الشمس، تَعدلُ بين اثنين صدقة، وتعين الرَّجل في دابَّته فتحمله عليها أو ترفع له عليها متاعَه صدقة، والكلمةُ الطيِّبة صدقة، وبكلِّ خطوة تَمشيها إلى الصلاة صدقة، وتُميط الأذى عن الطريق صدقة

Farid

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2015, 12:28:55 AM »
@ Khaled: Well done.

@ Imam Ali: You gonna believe some random punks that run a hadith website or are you gonna believe me? ;)

Muhammad Tazin

Re: Has Al-Hassan (RA) and Al-Hussain (RA) ever narrated Ahadiths
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2015, 05:04:40 PM »
ohh, that's a grave mistake made by this website. 4 out of 6 are written Fatima bint Muhammad>Ama bin Abi Bakr !!
Sorry to brothers Imam Ali & Farid.
I took profiles of Fatima(r.a.), Hassan(r.a.) & Hussain(r.a.) from  www.muslimscholars.info , and there were links below(how many narrated in Sihah sittah) , as muslimscholars is prominent, I thought what they gave for Qalarasullah.com would be well-checked  :-\

 

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