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Sunni hadith scholard weakened Imam Jafar & others?

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zaid_ibn_ali

Sunni hadith scholard weakened Imam Jafar & others?
« on: July 03, 2015, 11:28:57 PM »
As Salaam Aleykam


Can any of the brothers shed light on this:

http://www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/sunni-myth-love-adherence-ahlulbayt-as/blasphemous-views-on-ahlulbayt-as.html

Also is it true that Imam Ahmad said of Imam Jafar that he is nothing?


Farid

Re: Sunni hadith scholard weakened Imam Jafar & others?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2015, 12:43:32 AM »
Youpuncturedtheark website has responded to this, if I am not mistaken.

zaid_ibn_ali

Re: Sunni hadith scholard weakened Imam Jafar & others?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2015, 01:42:50 PM »
Jazakhallah khairan. The site is very useful indeed.


zaid_ibn_ali

Re: Sunni hadith scholard weakened Imam Jafar & others?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2015, 04:06:24 PM »
though not every report mentioned in the shia link is answered.

However is it true the shia site were deceiving when they allege that Imam Ahmed said of Imam Jafar Sadiq that he 'is nothing'. Rather what Imam Ahmad said was there is nothing wrong in him? Which is completely the opposite of what the shia claim & is a twisting of words. Is this true?

Aba AbdAllah

Re: Sunni hadith scholard weakened Imam Jafar & others?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2015, 10:37:28 PM »
though not every report mentioned in the shia link is answered.

I guess they didn't cover each and every argument because, those were regarding the weakening of some later Shi'i Imams, and they made a detailed refutation which covered this issue. What they established is that, weakening the narrating capability of a narrator doesn't necessarily mean that they hate those narrators. If that was true the one could argue that Ahl Sunnah scholars even authenticated some innovators like Shiah, or Khawarij and others, but no sane critic could argue that this indicates love for those innovators. Loving or respecting a person doesn't revolves around his credibility as narrator.

Also if weakening certain narrators from Ahlulbayt means Ahl sunnah doesn't love them, then Shiah have abandoned a large portion of Ahlulbayt, and they consider many of them to be deviants, so does it mean that Shiah don't love Ahlulbayt?

 

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