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Belief of Imam Ali VS Belief of Shias (About secret book & Imamat)

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Assalam O Alaikum,

Sahih Muslim, Hadith # 1370.
Source: http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/15/531


Ibrahim al-Taimi reported on the authority of his father:


'Ali b. Abi Talib (Allah be pleased with him) addressed us and said: He who thought that we have besides the Holy Qur'an anything else that we recite, he told a lie. And this document which is hanging by the sheath of the sword contains but the ages of the camels, and the nature of the wounds. He (Hadrat 'Ali) reported Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) as saying: Medina is sacred from 'Air to Thaur; So if anyone makes an innovation or accommodates an innovator, the curse of Allah, the angels, and all persons will fall upon him, and Allah will not accept any obligatory or supererogatory act as recompense from them. And the protection granted by the Muslims is one and must be respected by the humblest of them. If anyone makes a false claim to paternity, or being a client of other than his own masters, there is upon him the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people. Allah will not accept from him any recompense in the form of obligatory acts or supererogatory acts.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2016, 06:04:37 AM by Fahad Sani »
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

ShiaMan

Re: Belief of Imam Ali VS Belief of Shias (About secret book & Imamat)
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2016, 08:36:58 PM »
Assalam O Alaikum,

Sahih Muslim, Hadith # 1370.
Source: http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/15/531


Ibrahim al-Taimi reported on the authority of his father:


'Ali b. Abi Talib (Allah be pleased with him) addressed us and said: He who thought that we have besides the Holy Qur'an anything else that we recite, he told a lie. And this document which is hanging by the sheath of the sword contains but the ages of the camels, and the nature of the wounds. He (Hadrat 'Ali) reported Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) as saying: Medina is sacred from 'Air to Thaur; So if anyone makes an innovation or accommodates an innovator, the curse of Allah, the angels, and all persons will fall upon him, and Allah will not accept any obligatory or supererogatory act as recompense from them. And the protection granted by the Muslims is one and must be respected by the humblest of them. If anyone makes a false claim to paternity, or being a client of other than his own masters, there is upon him the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people. Allah will not accept from him any recompense in the form of obligatory acts or supererogatory acts.


What is the point of this? I am missing it.

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Re: Belief of Imam Ali VS Belief of Shias (About secret book & Imamat)
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 04:41:59 PM »

What is the point of this? I am missing it.

Here Maula Ali a.s is clarifying some doubts.

That we (Ahlul Bayt) dont possess any other book besides Quran. Because there were some people who were propagating this idea during caliphate of Maula Ali a.s. Many shias also believe the same today. Based on weak narrations in their books.

Also teaching them virtues of Madina through Prophet's words. Which are somehow similiar to letter 6 of nahjul Balagha, I think.
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

 

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