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One verse in the Qur'an completely destroys the shia imamate belief

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As the active Members on this group know that, in any of previous post the Shias miserably failed to prove their fundamental belief of Imamate after Prophet(SAWS) from any CLEAR verse of Quran WITHOUT the help of any Tawil or ahadeeth, as they themselves admitted, hence which proved them to be a deviant sect as per Quranic verse (3:7).

Now in this post let us see that how a CLEAR verse of Quran destroys the whole concept of Imamate after Prophet(SAWS). The verse is So deadly for the Shias that, they attributed reports to their Imams where they suggested additional wordings in the verse, claiming that this is how it was revealed. And the Shia Scholar like Majlisi went ahead to explain this hadeeth by saying that the wordings HAS BEEN REMOVED from Quran. So this verse was so deadly for their belief that they had to claim Tahreef of this verse in order to save their belief.

Here is the Quranic verse:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ فَإِن تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ وَالرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا
O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.(4:59).

(I). In this clear verse, we find that in matters of disagreement between those in authority and those under authority, we need to refer back to Allah and the Messenger. Had it been that, those in authority were divinely appointed then, Allah wouldn't have given any scope to disagree with them.

(ii). If those in authority were divinely appointed then, Allah would have asked the believers to refer them along with Allah and Messenger in matters of disagreement.

But Allah(swt) giving the possibility of disagreement with those in authority, and asking us to refer back to Allah and Messenger is a clear evidence that those in authority were not divinely appointed and their obedience is conditional, unlike the obedience to Allah and Messenger, which is unconditional.

Lets see what authentic Shia hadeeth had to say about this clear verse destroying their belief, see how they claimed that the verse had additional wording:

In Rawdat Al-Kafi #212 we read:

عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ أُذَيْنَةَ عَنْ بُرَيْدِ بْنِ مُعَاوِيَةَ قَالَ تَلَا أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ ( عليه السلام ) أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَ أَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَ أُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنْكُمْ فَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ تَنَازُعاً فِي الْأَمْرِ فَأَرْجِعُوهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ وَ إِلَى الرَّسُولِ وَ إِلَى أُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنْكُمْ ثُمَّ قَالَ كَيْفَ يَأْمُرُ بِطَاعَتِهِمْ وَ يُرَخِّصُ فِي مُنَازَعَتِهِمْ إِنَّمَا قَالَ ذَلِكَ لِلْمَأْمُورِينَ الَّذِينَ قِيلَ لَهُمْ أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَ أَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ

[`Ali bin Ibrahim, from his father, from ibn abi `Umayr, from `Umar bin Udhaynah, from Burayd bin Mu`awiyah that abu Ja`far (as) RECITED: {Believers, obey Allah, obey His Messenger, and your leaders, if ye fear that you would differ among yourselves then refer it to Allah and the messenger and your leaders} Then he (as) said: “How can he order their obedience then allow you to differ with them? He only meant the ones who are under orders when he said {Obey Allah and obey the messenger}.]

The narration was declared as “Hasan(GOOD)” by Al-Majlisi in his book “Mir’at al-`Uqoul” 26/76.

Esteemed Shia scholar Al-Majlisi adds:

و ظاهر كثير من الأخبار أن قوله:” وَ أُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنْكُمْ” كان مثبتا هيهنا فأسقط

[It is apparent from many of the narrations that the term “and the leaders among you” was affirmed here, but was then removed.](“Mir’at al-`Uqoul).

In the footnotes of Hayat ul Quloob(3/165), the Shia translator Molvi Basharat Hussain states that:

[ “The author(Baqir Majlisi) says, Hazrat(Imam) meant that, If ulil amr is not mentioned in the end(of verse), it would be the evidence that the ummah can disagree with them, and this is against the order of obedience towards them which is in the beginning of the verse”]. (Hayat ul Quloob 3/165).

So see respected readers, when a Clear verse of Quran destroys the myth of divinely appointed leaders after Muhammad(SAWS), how these people try to manipulate the verse of Quran by claiming that, it had an extra wording, which was removed.

May Allah Guide the truth seeking and objective Shias.

Farid

Re: One verse in the Qur'an completely destroys the shia imamate belief
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2016, 01:04:08 AM »
Barak Allah feek.

*Two thumbs up*

Rationalist

Re: One verse in the Qur'an completely destroys the shia imamate belief
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2016, 02:07:06 AM »
Good work!

Muslim ar Rusi

Re: One verse in the Qur'an completely destroys the shia imamate belief
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2016, 09:32:26 PM »
*Post can be deleted* found screens here http://www.dd-sunnah.net/forum/showthread.php?t=172985

May Allah Guide the truth seeking and objective Shias.

Ameen!
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 10:29:27 PM by Muslim ar Rusi »
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