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PRELUDE: Why There Is NO 2nd Coming Of Jesus (as) In Islam- Mufti Abu Layth

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Rationalist

The position of Ahlulbayt (a) is in the Quran.   The Quran says people will believe in Jesus as is, without making into a god nor neglection who he is as chosen by God, doesn't say anything about him ruling or being the one who establishes justice.


Rather, Quran shows one house replaces another, and the house of Mohammad (s) replaced the previous family of the reminder.

No the Quran says those who follow Prophet Isa(as) will be dominant in the end times.

Soccer

Guess we are wrong for following Mohammad (s) then.
"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Rationalist

That is why its verse of mutashabihat and the scholars differed on it. Some even went as far as saying he is will not return and the narrations are Israeliyath.

As for following, we respect all 4 books and all Prophets. The word of Allah is superior to human thought. We also believe the Injeel is also true holy book. The Quran still respects other semetic religions and call them the people of the book. In addition it says the Christians will be closest to you in love and affection.


Soccer

Let Quran contextualize it's own verses and nothing of it will remain unclear.
"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Rationalist

Read Surah Imran Verse 7

It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.


Soccer

Quran emphasizes it's a clear book and that it explains it's own signs and proofs in many verses. No doubt, a lot of ambiguity comes from it but that's not due to it being ambiguous but that is due to the following reasons that it explains:

1. Overwhelmed by sorcery.
2. If signs clarified after being overwhelmed by sorcery, it's due hearts choosing to be hard and stubborn.
3. The family of the reminder not sought for mental clarity.
4. Hard hearts decontextualizing the verses from it's places and this is again showing the nature of sorcery with this respect, it breaks the flow and contextualization rule of language.
5. Being playful and want to interpret Quran per one's caprice.
6. Relying on others as authority to Quran when Quran forbid to rely on anyone but God's chosen as authority regarding it.
7. Lack of reflection.
8. Insincerity.
9. Disbelief with little belief in that which has been hidden.
10. Taking most of the Quran as irrelevant stories.
11. Making a mockery of Quranic verses.
12. Believing in the Jibt and Taghut and worshiping it with God.

The Quran is a clear book.  The ambiguity followed from it, is due to our own evil. While, if we engage with per it's own terms, it becomes vividly clear.

"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Rationalist

No its not due to my evil. You are just arrogant. Some of the verses only Allah knows best. The reality is the Quran says Prophet Isa (as) and those who follow him will be superior. Its not the Mahdi. In fact our hadith says Mahdi will not rule for more than 9 years max. Like Imam Ali(as) his rule will not be long.

Soccer

The Quran is a clear book, of course, there is so much knowledge from it we don't know, I'm not saying you have to understand it all.  It's quite something to say I don't understand it all, don't know it all, it's another thing to say you see this phrase here, it's ambiguous.  The Quran is clear book, people disagreeing on it's clear signs is from their own injustice but it's not a willful choice. It's a choice they gave into being overwhelmed by sorcery, propaganda, and culture of insincerity to God and no fear of attributing him falsehood we inherited generation to generation.
"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

 

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