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Hani

The Shia Mahdi
« on: October 31, 2015, 02:06:31 AM »
Salam,


I wrote this article based on brother Hadrami's post and the contrubutions in one of our threads by the ex-Shia brothers:
The Shia Mahdi
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

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Re: The Shia Mahdi
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 03:14:13 AM »
و علیکم سلام ور وب

Funny comments of two Shias on facebook about this article:


« Last Edit: November 05, 2015, 03:15:51 AM by AbuMuslimKhorasani »
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میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Hani

Re: The Shia Mahdi
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 03:43:03 AM »
Same thing happened when I did that tree chart of Shia Imams, they're like "Never heard of these, Shia only believe in 12" Then again these topics are too advanced for kids.

I was gonna edit this article and add a a few quotes, one from al-Irshad by Mufid and one by Ghaybat al-Tusi both describing what Ja`far al-Kazzab did (confirming Ibn Hazm's quote), also an example from Sunni Rijali books.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

scusemyenglish

Re: The Shia Mahdi
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2016, 09:05:11 PM »
SORRY BUT I WANT TO KNOW.

IF SHIAS THEY BELIEVES TO JESUS RETURN OR NOT?

What is the space the status of JESUS (as) for shia?

 It's like jew who say jesus he don't return or like sunni?
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

Hani

Re: The Shia Mahdi
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2016, 10:30:21 PM »
They believe he returns but is nothing more than a follower of their 12th Imam.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

scusemyenglish

Re: The Shia Mahdi
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2016, 02:18:33 AM »
 ???
They believe he returns but is nothing more than a follower of their 12th Imam.

necessaraly... I should have thought about it ...all is linked with imams... if not the earth don' t rotates
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

scusemyenglish

Re: The Shia Mahdi
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2016, 10:13:40 PM »
Do you think that it is serious to say Shias await DADJJAL ?

is it serious to say Shia Mahdi is a Dajjadal in fact? or say that is just a provocation?

Because Abou Hourayra, the man who is telling the truth, reports in a sahih hadith " DAJJAL will come from à town of IRAN!". And Anas Ibn Malik talks about jew of Iran who will folow Dajjal. (at the present time there is more of 30 000 jews in Iran).

The prophecy seems to stick! Or you think it's exaggerate?

Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

Rationalist

Re: The Shia Mahdi
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2016, 02:27:27 AM »
Do you think that it is serious to say Shias await DADJJAL ?

is it serious to say Shia Mahdi is a Dajjadal in fact? or say that is just a provocation?

Because Abou Hourayra, the man who is telling the truth, reports in a sahih hadith " DAJJAL will come from à town of IRAN!". And Anas Ibn Malik talks about jew of Iran who will folow Dajjal. (at the present time there is more of 30 000 jews in Iran).

The prophecy seems to stick! Or you think it's exaggerate?



The ironic part is since Shaykh Saduq believed Prophet Isa (as) died, he ended up using Dajjal's living example to prove the existence of the Mahdi.

As for who is going to follow who, again that is among the knowledge of the unseen. Recall the Quran told the Prophet (pbuh) when he entered Madina a new group of people have now come into existence. They are the monafiqeen, and you do not know who they are.

 

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