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'Ali & Mu'awiyah in paradise together

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Husayn

'Ali & Mu'awiyah in paradise together
« on: May 16, 2015, 10:43:52 AM »
وَنَزَعْنَا مَا فِي صُدُورِهِم مِّنْ غِلٍّ إِخْوَانًا عَلَىٰ سُرُرٍ مُّتَقَابِلِينَ

And We will remove whatever is in their breasts of resentment, [so they will be] brothers, on thrones facing each other.

Qur'an 15:47
إن يتبعون إلا الظن وما تهوى الأنفس

Rationalist

Re: 'Ali & Mu'awiyah in paradise together
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2015, 07:05:56 PM »
Do you actually believe that Muawiyah fought against Uthmaan for the vengeance against those who killed him ?

Husayn

Re: 'Ali & Mu'awiyah in paradise together
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 12:33:49 PM »
Well, at the risk of rehashing tired old debates, my belief is:

Yes, Mu'awiyah (ra) & the people of Shaam did fight for the blood of 'Uthman (ra), but they had no right to, and should have heeded the command of 'Ali (ra), who was the rightful Khalif.

الَّذِينَ جَاءُوا مِن بَعْدِهِمْ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ

And those who came after them say: "Our Lord! Forgive us, and our brethren who came before us into the Faith, and leave not, in our hearts, rancour (or sense of injury) against those who have believed. Our Lord! Thou art indeed Full of Kindness, Most Merciful."

Qur'an 59:10

Ameen.
إن يتبعون إلا الظن وما تهوى الأنفس

Suleiman

Re: 'Ali & Mu'awiyah in paradise together
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2015, 10:58:40 PM »
From what I know, the wife of Uthman (ra), sent a very emotional letter along with blood stained shirt of Uthman (ra) and her fingers (which were cut off in his defense).

Muawiya get this letter whilst he was on the minbar etc.

And what Husayn said.

 

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