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Infallibility for companions
« on: June 29, 2017, 05:40:46 PM »
Assalam o Alaikum,

If we compare 48:2 with 33:33 then do it not also prove infallibility for all those who are addressed there?
 

[Malik 48:2]  So that Allah may forgive your past as well as your future sins, and may perfect His blessings upon you, and keep you on the Right Way.

لِيَغْفِرَ لَكَ اللَّهُ مَا تَقَدَّمَ مِنْ ذَنْبِكَ وَمَا تَأَخَّرَ وَيُتِمَّ نِعْمَتَهُ عَلَيْكَ وَيَهْدِيَكَ صِرَاطًا مُسْتَقِيمًا

 
[Malik 33:33] (part of verse)  O people of the household of Rasool, Allah only intends to remove uncleanliness from you and to purify you completely.

إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Infallibility for companions
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2017, 12:38:24 AM »
Assalam o Alaikum,

If we compare 48:2 with 33:33 then do it not also prove infallibility for all those who are addressed there?
 

[Malik 48:2]  So that Allah may forgive your past as well as your future sins, and may perfect His blessings upon you, and keep you on the Right Way.

لِيَغْفِرَ لَكَ اللَّهُ مَا تَقَدَّمَ مِنْ ذَنْبِكَ وَمَا تَأَخَّرَ وَيُتِمَّ نِعْمَتَهُ عَلَيْكَ وَيَهْدِيَكَ صِرَاطًا مُسْتَقِيمًا

 
[Malik 33:33] (part of verse)  O people of the household of Rasool, Allah only intends to remove uncleanliness from you and to purify you completely.

إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا

Read this article brother.

Abu Muhammad

Re: Infallibility for companions
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 02:59:41 AM »
Assalam o Alaikum,

If we compare 48:2 with 33:33 then do it not also prove infallibility for all those who are addressed there?
 

[Malik 48:2]  So that Allah may forgive your past as well as your future sins, and may perfect His blessings upon you, and keep you on the Right Way.

لِيَغْفِرَ لَكَ اللَّهُ مَا تَقَدَّمَ مِنْ ذَنْبِكَ وَمَا تَأَخَّرَ وَيُتِمَّ نِعْمَتَهُ عَلَيْكَ وَيَهْدِيَكَ صِرَاطًا مُسْتَقِيمًا

 
[Malik 33:33] (part of verse)  O people of the household of Rasool, Allah only intends to remove uncleanliness from you and to purify you completely.

إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا

Read this article brother.

I couldn't find any link to the article, brother.


Assalam o Alaikum,

If we compare 48:2 with 33:33 then do it not also prove infallibility for all those who are addressed there?
 

[Malik 48:2]  So that Allah may forgive your past as well as your future sins, and may perfect His blessings upon you, and keep you on the Right Way.

لِيَغْفِرَ لَكَ اللَّهُ مَا تَقَدَّمَ مِنْ ذَنْبِكَ وَمَا تَأَخَّرَ وَيُتِمَّ نِعْمَتَهُ عَلَيْكَ وَيَهْدِيَكَ صِرَاطًا مُسْتَقِيمًا

 
[Malik 33:33] (part of verse)  O people of the household of Rasool, Allah only intends to remove uncleanliness from you and to purify you completely.

إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا

Wallahu a'lam but from the reading of the first ayah shows that sahabah were indeed fallible. Allah said He will forgive future sins. What is future sins if not mistakes done in the future. That shows sahabah were not free from any mistakes.

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Infallibility for companions
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 03:37:09 AM »
Assalam o Alaikum,

If we compare 48:2 with 33:33 then do it not also prove infallibility for all those who are addressed there?
 

[Malik 48:2]  So that Allah may forgive your past as well as your future sins, and may perfect His blessings upon you, and keep you on the Right Way.

لِيَغْفِرَ لَكَ اللَّهُ مَا تَقَدَّمَ مِنْ ذَنْبِكَ وَمَا تَأَخَّرَ وَيُتِمَّ نِعْمَتَهُ عَلَيْكَ وَيَهْدِيَكَ صِرَاطًا مُسْتَقِيمًا

 
[Malik 33:33] (part of verse)  O people of the household of Rasool, Allah only intends to remove uncleanliness from you and to purify you completely.

إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا

Read this article brother.


This link
https://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/does-verse-of-tatheer3333-makes-anyone-infallible/


fgss

Re: Infallibility for companions
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2017, 05:55:39 AM »
I know brother, none of the above verses prove infallibility. This is what shia logic say about 33:33 but they dont apply the same to 48:2. Double standards.

This shows they dont follow Quran but some manmade fabricated reports. Quran do not support any of their false belief.
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

Hani

Re: Infallibility for companions
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 08:30:32 AM »
Similar thread, this can be stretched to mean infallibility
http://forum.twelvershia.net/quran-tafseer/companions-cannot-lie/
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Infallibility for companions
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 01:58:06 PM »
This shows they dont follow Quran but some manmade fabricated reports. Quran do not support any of their false belief.
To further expose their deviance, you can challenge them to quote any authentic hadeeth from their Imams where they made tafseer of 33:33 provingg their infallibility.

 

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