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sword_of_sunnah

Veriication of translation by RTS
« on: July 15, 2014, 11:59:00 PM »
Salamalaikum.

RTS in their article provided this scan :
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KG9FUEhaWi8/UyinObOokNI/AAAAAAAAQis/nGLtI5MlZqA/s1600/Tafsir+Rooh+Al-Ma%27ani2Vol15.jpg

And translated the below portion,

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And what has been narrated by Al-Bazzar, Aboo Ya'la, ibn Abi Hatam and ibn Mardawaih from Abi Sa'eed Al-Khudri that when this verse was revealed, the Messenger of Allah (saw) called Faatima (s.a) and gave her the Fadak, does not confine in addressing to him (saw), because there is something in my heart about the authenticity of this narration, based on the fact that this Surah is Makkan and this verse is not of the exceptions (i.e. of being a Madani verse) and Fadak was not under the Messenger of Allah's (saw) control at that time, rather she (s.a) asked for it as her inheritance after the death of the Prophet (saw), as it is famous. 

Source: Ruh Al-Ma'ani Fi Tafseer Al-Qur'aan. Vol. 15, Pg. # 62.

And then they accused Alusi stating :
Quote
As can be seen, Mahmud Al-Alusi having a Nasibi heart contradicts himself and states that this verse is not from among the exceptions of being Makkan, even though he himself mentions the opinion of Hassan Al-Basri, that Verse 26 is an exception, i.e. It has been revealed after Hijra in Madinah.

 however, i think they purposely left the translation of starting words of the first quote, because, Alusi gives the reason for not accepting the view of hasan basri, hence he is not contradicting, but choosing the correct view.

Any any brother, look at it, and translate the initial words, IF they give the reason for not accepting the view of hasan basri.

sword_of_sunnah

Re: Veriication of translation by RTS
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 05:05:11 PM »
Are these the words or opinion of Imam Dhahabi or he is quoting a report? And is this a correct quote or a misquote, if its the opinion of Imam Dhahabi?

Imam Dhahabi records in Siyar alam al-Nubala, volume 2 page 121:
ولما توفي أبوها تعلقت آمالها بميراثه وجاءت تطلب ذلك من أبي بكر الصديق فحدثها أنه سمع النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 05:09:43 PM by sword_of_sunnah »

sword_of_sunnah

Re: Veriication of translation by RTS
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 10:34:36 AM »
Salamalaikum.

RTS in their article provided this scan :
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KG9FUEhaWi8/UyinObOokNI/AAAAAAAAQis/nGLtI5MlZqA/s1600/Tafsir+Rooh+Al-Ma%27ani2Vol15.jpg

And translated the below portion,

Quote
And what has been narrated by Al-Bazzar, Aboo Ya'la, ibn Abi Hatam and ibn Mardawaih from Abi Sa'eed Al-Khudri that when this verse was revealed, the Messenger of Allah (saw) called Faatima (s.a) and gave her the Fadak, does not confine in addressing to him (saw), because there is something in my heart about the authenticity of this narration, based on the fact that this Surah is Makkan and this verse is not of the exceptions (i.e. of being a Madani verse) and Fadak was not under the Messenger of Allah's (saw) control at that time, rather she (s.a) asked for it as her inheritance after the death of the Prophet (saw), as it is famous. 

Source: Ruh Al-Ma'ani Fi Tafseer Al-Qur'aan. Vol. 15, Pg. # 62.

And then they accused Alusi stating :
Quote
As can be seen, Mahmud Al-Alusi having a Nasibi heart contradicts himself and states that this verse is not from among the exceptions of being Makkan, even though he himself mentions the opinion of Hassan Al-Basri, that Verse 26 is an exception, i.e. It has been revealed after Hijra in Madinah.

 however, i think they purposely left the translation of starting words of the first quote, because, Alusi gives the reason for not accepting the view of hasan basri, hence he is not contradicting, but choosing the correct view.

Can any brother, look at it, and translate the initial words, IF he gave the reason for not accepting the view of hasan basri. that the verse 26 was revealed in madina.?

Bump...........

 

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