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Aisha's (RA) political relationship with Uthman (RA)

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Optimus Prime

Aisha's (RA) political relationship with Uthman (RA)
« on: May 19, 2015, 05:56:32 PM »
Asalamualaikum.

Is it true Aisha (RA) had a few issues with a few decisions Uthman (RA) made during his rein.

Such as follows:

- The way he punished Ammar ibn Yasir (RA)
- His refusal to punish Walid ibn Utbah who was his half brother
- He was called a Jew by Aisha (RA)

Can anyone clarify the above, please.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2015, 06:01:50 PM by Imam Ali »

Hani

Re: Aisha's (RA) political relationship with Uthman (RA)
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 09:39:38 PM »
We need to know where this is mentioned (sources n chains) so we may comment on their content.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Optimus Prime

Re: Aisha's (RA) political relationship with Uthman (RA)
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2015, 12:27:39 AM »
We need to know where this is mentioned (sources n chains) so we may comment on their content.

The source is dubious:

After ‘Umar died, ‘Uthmān was chosen to be the third caliph. He wanted to promote the interests of the Umayyads. Aisha had little involvement with ‘Uthmān for the first couple years, but eventually she found a way into the politics of his reign. She eventually grew to despise ‘Uthmān, and many are unsure of what specifically triggered her eventual opposition towards him. A prominent opposition that arose towards him was when ‘Uthmān mistreated ‘Ammar ibn Yasir (companion of Muhammad) by beating him. Aisha became enraged and spoke out publicly, saying, "How soon indeed you have forgotten the practice (sunnah) of your prophet and these, his hairs, a shirt, and sandal have not yet perished!".

As time continued issues of antipathy towards ‘Uthmān continued to arise. Another instance of opposition arose when the people came to Aisha, after Uthmān ignored the rightful punishment for Walid idn Uqbah (Uthmān's brother). Aisha and Uthmān argued with each other, Uthmān eventually made a comment on why Aisha had come and how she was "ordered to stay at home".Arising from this comment, was the question of whether Aisha, and for that matter women, still had the ability to be involved in public affairs. The Muslim community became split: "some sided with Uthmān, but others demanded to know who indeed had better right than Aisha in such matters".

The caliphate took a turn for the worse when Egypt was governed by Abdullah ibn Saad. Abbott reports that Muhammad ibn Abi Hudhayfa of Egypt, an opponent of ‘Uthmān, forged letters in the Mothers of the Believers' names to the conspirators against ‘Uthmān. The people cut off ‘Uthmān's water and food supply. When Aisha realized the behavior of the crowd, Abbott notes, Aisha could not believe the crowd "would offer such indignities to a widow of Mohammad". This refers to when Safiyya bint Huyayy (one of Muhammad's wives) tried to help ‘Uthmān and was taken by the crowd. Malik al-Ashtar then approached her about killing Uthmān and the letter, and she claimed she would never want to "command the shedding of the blood of the Muslims and the killing of their Imām"; she also claimed she did not write the letters. The city continued to oppose ‘Uthmān, but as for Aisha, her journey to Mecca was approaching. With the journey to Mecca approaching at this time, she wanted to rid herself of the situation. ‘Uthmān heard of her not wanting to hurt him, and he asked her to stay because of her influence on the people, but this did not persuade Aisha, and she continued on her journey.


Original source is from here: http://oi.uchicago.edu/research/publications/misc/aishah-beloved-mohammed

Hani

Re: Aisha's (RA) political relationship with Uthman (RA)
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2015, 10:35:03 AM »
great, i'll look it up when I have time, I only see three points here:

-Incident of `Ammar.

-Punishment of Walid bin `Uqbah.

-The forged letter.

^ That last point actually opposes the author's story, it shows she wasn't much involved nor did she support `Uthman's enemies, so no need to even discuss it.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Optimus Prime

Re: Aisha's (RA) political relationship with Uthman (RA)
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 02:05:29 PM »
And, Rafidahs claim Aisha (RA) called him a Jew.



 

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