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Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)

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بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْوَهَّابِ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادٌ، حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامٌ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ،، قَالَ كَانَ النَّاسُ يَتَحَرَّوْنَ بِهَدَايَاهُمْ يَوْمَ عَائِشَةَ قَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ فَاجْتَمَعَ صَوَاحِبِي إِلَى أُمِّ سَلَمَةَ، فَقُلْنَ يَا أُمَّ سَلَمَةَ، وَاللَّهِ إِنَّ النَّاسَ يَتَحَرَّوْنَ بِهَدَايَاهُمْ يَوْمَ عَائِشَةَ، وَإِنَّا نُرِيدُ الْخَيْرَ كَمَا تُرِيدُهُ عَائِشَةُ، فَمُرِي رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنْ يَأْمُرَ النَّاسَ أَنْ يُهْدُوا إِلَيْهِ حَيْثُ مَا كَانَ أَوْ حَيْثُ مَا دَارَ، قَالَتْ فَذَكَرَتْ ذَلِكَ أُمُّ سَلَمَةَ لِلنَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَتْ فَأَعْرَضَ عَنِّي، فَلَمَّا عَادَ إِلَىَّ ذَكَرْتُ لَهُ ذَاكَ فَأَعْرَضَ عَنِّي، فَلَمَّا كَانَ فِي الثَّالِثَةِ ذَكَرْتُ لَهُ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ يَا أُمَّ سَلَمَةَ لاَ تُؤْذِينِي فِي عَائِشَةَ، فَإِنَّهُ وَاللَّهِ مَا نَزَلَ عَلَىَّ الْوَحْىُ وَأَنَا فِي لِحَافِ امْرَأَةٍ مِنْكُنَّ غَيْرِهَا ‏"‏‏.‏


Narrated Hisham's father:
The people used to send presents to the Prophet (ﷺ) on the day of `Aisha's turn. `Aisha said, "My companions (i.e. the other wives of the Prophet) gathered in the house of Um Salama and said, "O Um Salama! By Allah, the people choose to send presents on the day of `Aisha's turn and we too, love the good (i.e. presents etc.) as `Aisha does. You should tell Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) to tell the people to send their presents to him wherever he may be, or wherever his turn may be."

Um Salama said that to the Prophet and he turned away from her, and when the Prophet (ﷺ) returned to her (i.e. Um Salama), she repeated the same, and the Prophet (ﷺ) again turned away, and when she told him the same for the third time, the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Um Salama! Don't harm me by harming `Aisha, for by Allah, the Divine Inspiration never came to me while I was under the blanket of any woman amongst you except her."


Reference    : Sahih al-Bukhari 3775
In-book reference    : Book 62, Hadith 122
USC-MSA web (English) reference    : Vol. 5, Book 57, Hadith 119

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/62/122
« Last Edit: January 04, 2015, 07:58:46 PM by AbuMuslimKhorasani »
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Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't trouble me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 07:31:50 PM »
LOL, howcome I never saw Umm Salamah's Hadith before!? It's the equal of Fatimah's (as) Hadith. However, a more accurate translation is "Don't harm me by harming `A'ishah".


According to Rafidi logic now you can abuse `Ali for harming `A'ishah because harming her is equal to harming Sayyiduna Muhammad (saw).


Astaghfirullah from extremism...
« Last Edit: January 04, 2015, 07:34:47 PM by Hani »
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

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Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't trouble me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2015, 07:59:41 PM »
LOL, howcome I never saw Umm Salamah's Hadith before!? It's the equal of Fatimah's (as) Hadith. However, a more accurate translation is "Don't harm me by harming `A'ishah".

Subhan'Allah. It uses the same word.

Also, akhi, there is another narration in Bukhari where Prophet (saw) says similar thing to Fatima (ra) about Aisha (ra). I once quoted it on islamic forum but can't find it.

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According to Rafidi logic now you can abuse `Ali for harming `A'ishah because harming her is equal to harming Sayyiduna Muhammad (saw).

Astaghfirullah from extremism...

haha
« Last Edit: January 04, 2015, 08:02:14 PM by AbuMuslimKhorasani »
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Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2015, 09:49:07 PM »
“Saheeh” al-Bukhari (#2620) :“The wives of Allah’s Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of ‘Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Umm Salama and the other wives of Allah’s Apostle. The Muslims knew that Allah’s Apostle loved ‘Aisha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah’s Apostle, he would delay it, till Allah’s Apostle had come to ‘Aisha’s home and then he would send his gift to Allah’s Apostle in her home. The group of Um Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Um Salama should request Allah’s Apostle to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife’s house he was. Um Salama told Allah’s Apostle of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Umm Salama about it. She said, “He did not say anything to me.” They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, “Talk to him till he gives you a reply.” When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, “Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha.” On that Um Salama said, “I repent to Allah for hurting you.” Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Apostle and sent her to Allah’s Apostle to say to him, “Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms.” Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet said, “O my daughter! Don’t you love whom I love?” She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation.
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Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2015, 11:08:04 PM »
^ Jazaka'Allah Khayr
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't trouble me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2015, 03:06:42 AM »
LOL, howcome I never saw Umm Salamah's Hadith before!? It's the equal of Fatimah's (as) Hadith. However, a more accurate translation is "Don't harm me by harming `A'ishah".


According to Rafidi logic now you can abuse `Ali for harming `A'ishah because harming her is equal to harming Sayyiduna Muhammad (saw).


Astaghfirullah from extremism...

And what about challenging the fourth rightly guided Khalif of the Muslims, to such an extent that you go to battle against him??? Are we going to comment on this as well??? Or are we going to just brush it under the carpet??? We never consider reality and facts, do we???

Ameen

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2015, 03:16:48 AM »
“Saheeh” al-Bukhari (#2620) :“The wives of Allah’s Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of ‘Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Umm Salama and the other wives of Allah’s Apostle. The Muslims knew that Allah’s Apostle loved ‘Aisha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah’s Apostle, he would delay it, till Allah’s Apostle had come to ‘Aisha’s home and then he would send his gift to Allah’s Apostle in her home. The group of Um Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Um Salama should request Allah’s Apostle to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife’s house he was. Um Salama told Allah’s Apostle of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Umm Salama about it. She said, “He did not say anything to me.” They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, “Talk to him till he gives you a reply.” When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, “Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha.” On that Um Salama said, “I repent to Allah for hurting you.” Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Apostle and sent her to Allah’s Apostle to say to him, “Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms.” Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet said, “O my daughter! Don’t you love whom I love?” She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation.

The Muslims knew that Allah's Apostle loved Aisha??? So how did they know??? Did he advertise it??? Did he tell them why he loved her and not the others??? We know that she left her place at home and entered public affairs, she intervened in the state's matters and took matters so far that she went to battle with the fourth Khalif. This is what it's all about, isn't it??? Trying to divert attention and make matters look good. Don't you think it's about time you gave it a rest??? What is wrong is wrong and who is wrong is wrong. Try and accept reality and facts rather than looking for diversion.

Hani

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't trouble me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2015, 03:42:30 AM »

And what about challenging the fourth rightly guided Khalif of the Muslims, to such an extent that you go to battle against him??? Are we going to comment on this as well??? Or are we going to just brush it under the carpet??? We never consider reality and facts, do we???


You mean just like Shia claim Fatimah (as) challenged the first Caliph of Islam? And she rode that donkey asking the Ansar to help her get her right back from Abu Bakr but no one accepted to stand against him?



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The Muslims knew that Allah's Apostle loved Aisha??? So how did they know??? Did he advertise it??? Did he tell them why he loved her and not the others??? We know that she left her place at home and entered public affairs, she intervened in the state's matters and took matters so far that she went to battle with the fourth Khalif. This is what it's all about, isn't it??? Trying to divert attention and make matters look good. Don't you think it's about time you gave it a rest??? What is wrong is wrong and who is wrong is wrong. Try and accept reality and facts rather than looking for diversion.




Dude why is everything you say a "question", I swear if I gather the number of posts you make and the number of question marks you wrote they would far exceed your posts.


Contribute with useful information and stop asking over and over and over.

As for your question, it was popularly known that he (saw) preferred `A'ishah the most after his first wife Khadeejah.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Taha

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't trouble me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2015, 04:03:59 AM »
As for your question, it was popularly known that he (saw) preferred `A'ishah the most after his first wife Khadeejah.

According to Shias, the favorite after Khadijah was Maria the Copt, not Aisha.

Anyways, for the sake of simplicity I'll accept your claim that Aisha was the favorite (I'm sure there is a lot of evidence and I'm not asking you to post it).  Didn't Aisha repeatedly insult the first and absolute favorite wife, Khadijah?  Why is it unacceptable to insult Aisha but its perfectly fine for Aisha to insult Khadijah?  And the Prophet rebuked her for it too.

I'm hoping you know which narrations I'm referring to, but if not I can post them.

There is also the (separate) issue of the honey drink. It seems as if Aisha didn't have a lot of respect for the other Mothers of Believers.

Hani

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't trouble me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 04:15:41 AM »
As for your question, it was popularly known that he (saw) preferred `A'ishah the most after his first wife Khadeejah.

According to Shias, the favorite after Khadijah was Maria the Copt, not Aisha.

Anyways, for the sake of simplicity I'll accept your claim that Aisha was the favorite (I'm sure there is a lot of evidence and I'm not asking you to post it).  Didn't Aisha repeatedly insult the first and absolute favorite wife, Khadijah?  Why is it unacceptable to insult Aisha but its perfectly fine for Aisha to insult Khadijah?  And the Prophet rebuked her for it too.

I'm hoping you know which narrations I'm referring to, but if not I can post them.

There is also the (separate) issue of the honey drink. It seems as if Aisha didn't have a lot of respect for the other Mothers of Believers.


I do know the narration, this is evidence that we Ahlul-Sunnah do not believe in the infallibility of any of the Sahabah, in a nutshell, `A'ishah never knew Khadijah and she was very young so when she kept hearing the Prophet (saw) praise Khadijah constantly, her jealousy for her husband got the better of her and she reacted by describing Khadijah as an old woman (or something along those lines), then the Prophet (saw) explained Khadijah's status and ordered `A'ishah to never do that again.


Is that acceptable?
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Taha

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 05:11:18 AM »
Yes, it is acceptable. Thank you for explaining.

But about the honey drink?  She didn't like Zaynab bint Jaysh either? Or was it jealousy again?  It appears she wasn't jealous of Hafsa since the two worked together on the honey drink issue.

Optimus Prime

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 02:44:31 PM »
Yes, it is acceptable. Thank you for explaining.

But about the honey drink?  She didn't like Zaynab bint Jaysh either? Or was it jealousy again?  It appears she wasn't jealous of Hafsa since the two worked together on the honey drink issue.

There is actually another incident where Aisha (RA) and Hafsah (RA) gave Safiya (RA) a tough time when she was just newly wedded saying how their fathers are the closest companions to the Prophet (SAW). Her ancestory goes back to the likes Musa (AS) and/or Haroon (AS). So, the Prophet (SAW) advised her to tell both of them if they started again (to the nearest meaning) that:

- Musa (AS) is your uncle
- Haroon (AS) is your father
- Mohammed (SAW) is your husband

Having that sort of ancestral background is far superior. If someone can actually post the narration it'll be great.

Having said that you've just read the narration above how Um Salama (RA) went to Prophet (SAW) and Fatima (RA) insisting or complaining that they wish to be treated equally. Isn't this a reflection of jealousy? Fatima (RA) expressed great disapproval at Ali's (RA) proposal to the daughter of Abu Jahal - this is too is jealousy.

When you're living in a polygamous household such things are to be expected especially when the husband is the best of creation. It's only natural that every wife will want to spend more time and demand more attention from the Prophet (SAW).
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Optimus Prime

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2015, 02:48:54 PM »
“Saheeh” al-Bukhari (#2620) :“The wives of Allah’s Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of ‘Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Umm Salama and the other wives of Allah’s Apostle. The Muslims knew that Allah’s Apostle loved ‘Aisha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah’s Apostle, he would delay it, till Allah’s Apostle had come to ‘Aisha’s home and then he would send his gift to Allah’s Apostle in her home. The group of Um Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Um Salama should request Allah’s Apostle to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife’s house he was. Um Salama told Allah’s Apostle of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Umm Salama about it. She said, “He did not say anything to me.” They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, “Talk to him till he gives you a reply.” When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, “Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha.” On that Um Salama said, “I repent to Allah for hurting you.” Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Apostle and sent her to Allah’s Apostle to say to him, “Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms.” Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet said, “O my daughter! Don’t you love whom I love?” She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation.

The Muslims knew that Allah's Apostle loved Aisha??? So how did they know??? Did he advertise it??? Did he tell them why he loved her and not the others??? We know that she left her place at home and entered public affairs, she intervened in the state's matters and took matters so far that she went to battle with the fourth Khalif. This is what it's all about, isn't it??? Trying to divert attention and make matters look good. Don't you think it's about time you gave it a rest??? What is wrong is wrong and who is wrong is wrong. Try and accept reality and facts rather than looking for diversion.

He (SAW) sure did.

Amr Ibn al-As related that he asked the Prophet (SAW), “Who do you love most, O' Messenger of Allah?” He replied, “’Aisha. “Who is from among men?” Amr asked. He said “Her father.” (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim)  ;)

Ameen

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2015, 03:44:46 PM »
“Saheeh” al-Bukhari (#2620) :“The wives of Allah’s Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of ‘Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Umm Salama and the other wives of Allah’s Apostle. The Muslims knew that Allah’s Apostle loved ‘Aisha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah’s Apostle, he would delay it, till Allah’s Apostle had come to ‘Aisha’s home and then he would send his gift to Allah’s Apostle in her home. The group of Um Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Um Salama should request Allah’s Apostle to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife’s house he was. Um Salama told Allah’s Apostle of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Umm Salama about it. She said, “He did not say anything to me.” They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, “Talk to him till he gives you a reply.” When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, “Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha.” On that Um Salama said, “I repent to Allah for hurting you.” Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Apostle and sent her to Allah’s Apostle to say to him, “Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms.” Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet said, “O my daughter! Don’t you love whom I love?” She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation.

The Muslims knew that Allah's Apostle loved Aisha??? So how did they know??? Did he advertise it??? Did he tell them why he loved her and not the others??? We know that she left her place at home and entered public affairs, she intervened in the state's matters and took matters so far that she went to battle with the fourth Khalif. This is what it's all about, isn't it??? Trying to divert attention and make matters look good. Don't you think it's about time you gave it a rest??? What is wrong is wrong and who is wrong is wrong. Try and accept reality and facts rather than looking for diversion.

He (SAW) sure did.

Amr Ibn al-As related that he asked the Prophet (SAW), “Who do you love most, O' Messenger of Allah?” He replied, “’Aisha. “Who is from among men?” Amr asked. He said “Her father.” (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim)  ;)

And why do you believe this to be true??? Did you refute this??? Did you look at this with an open mind that it might be true or it could be falsely linked to the Prophet (pbuh). In reality who was he more closer to??? What does reality say??? Does this go with reality???

He married Khatija (sa) and when she died he didn't marry, turn to another woman for how many years??? Was it 8/9 years??? And when he married Khatija (sa) did he also marry other women??? Or was she the only one in his life???

Have an open mind and if not that at least look at this through reality and facts.

Optimus Prime

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2015, 04:47:07 PM »
“Saheeh” al-Bukhari (#2620) :“The wives of Allah’s Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of ‘Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Umm Salama and the other wives of Allah’s Apostle. The Muslims knew that Allah’s Apostle loved ‘Aisha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah’s Apostle, he would delay it, till Allah’s Apostle had come to ‘Aisha’s home and then he would send his gift to Allah’s Apostle in her home. The group of Um Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Um Salama should request Allah’s Apostle to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife’s house he was. Um Salama told Allah’s Apostle of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Umm Salama about it. She said, “He did not say anything to me.” They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, “Talk to him till he gives you a reply.” When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, “Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha.” On that Um Salama said, “I repent to Allah for hurting you.” Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Apostle and sent her to Allah’s Apostle to say to him, “Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms.” Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet said, “O my daughter! Don’t you love whom I love?” She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation.

The Muslims knew that Allah's Apostle loved Aisha??? So how did they know??? Did he advertise it??? Did he tell them why he loved her and not the others??? We know that she left her place at home and entered public affairs, she intervened in the state's matters and took matters so far that she went to battle with the fourth Khalif. This is what it's all about, isn't it??? Trying to divert attention and make matters look good. Don't you think it's about time you gave it a rest??? What is wrong is wrong and who is wrong is wrong. Try and accept reality and facts rather than looking for diversion.

He (SAW) sure did.

Amr Ibn al-As related that he asked the Prophet (SAW), “Who do you love most, O' Messenger of Allah?” He replied, “’Aisha. “Who is from among men?” Amr asked. He said “Her father.” (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim)  ;)

And why do you believe this to be true??? Did you refute this??? Did you look at this with an open mind that it might be true or it could be falsely linked to the Prophet (pbuh). In reality who was he more closer to??? What does reality say??? Does this go with reality???

He married Khatija (sa) and when she died he didn't marry, turn to another woman for how many years??? Was it 8/9 years??? And when he married Khatija (sa) did he also marry other women??? Or was she the only one in his life???

Have an open mind and if not that at least look at this through reality and facts.

I believe it beyond doubt because the narration is authentic beyond doubt confirmed by Bukhari and other scholars of Hadith such Imam Muslim. I believe it because Allah confirms her innocence and purty in the Qur'an. I believe it because such narrations go hand in hand with other authentic narrations where the Prophet (SAW) has praised his wife.

Your desperate ploy of wanting us to see things from a Rafidhi rationale is not going to work. The words of Allah and the/her husband the Prophet's (SAW) words carry far more weight.

She is your mother. Accept it, and love her.  :D

Hani

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2015, 05:59:24 PM »
@Taha,



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But about the honey drink?  She didn't like Zaynab bint Jaysh either? Or was it jealousy again?  It appears she wasn't jealous of Hafsa since the two worked together on the honey drink issue.


I don't know which honey narration you're talking about, but as far as Zaynab she was `A'ishah's competition, the Prophet (saw) favored them both above the rest of his other wives, Zaynab did side with `A'ishah in the Ifk incident.





عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Optimus Prime

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2015, 06:12:24 PM »
@Taha,



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But about the honey drink?  She didn't like Zaynab bint Jaysh either? Or was it jealousy again?  It appears she wasn't jealous of Hafsa since the two worked together on the honey drink issue.


I don't know which honey narration you're talking about, but as far as Zaynab she was `A'ishah's competition, the Prophet (saw) favored them both above the rest of his other wives, Zaynab did side with `A'ishah in the Ifk incident.

Can you elaborate on the bold bit, Hani?

Hani

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2015, 06:21:41 PM »
Can you elaborate on the bold bit, Hani?


You know, the Ifk is when some people accused the Prophet's (saw) wife of a bad thing, then the Prophet (saw) asked people for their opinions, Zaynab stood with `A'ishah, until finally Allah revealed verses of truth and prohibited people from accusing the Prophet's (saw) wives.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Taha

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2015, 06:29:03 AM »
There is actually another incident where Aisha (RA) and Hafsah (RA) gave Safiya (RA) a tough time when she was just newly wedded saying how their fathers are the closest companions to the Prophet (SAW). Her ancestory goes back to the likes Musa (AS) and/or Haroon (AS). So, the Prophet (SAW) advised her to tell both of them if they started again (to the nearest meaning) that:

- Musa (AS) is your uncle
- Haroon (AS) is your father
- Mohammed (SAW) is your husband

Having that sort of ancestral background is far superior. If someone can actually post the narration it'll be great.
Thanks for this hadeeth, it's interesting.

Having said that you've just read the narration above how Um Salama (RA) went to Prophet (SAW) and Fatima (RA) insisting or complaining that they wish to be treated equally. Isn't this a reflection of jealousy? Fatima (RA) expressed great disapproval at Ali's (RA) proposal to the daughter of Abu Jahal - this is too is jealousy.
Ali didn't marry a single woman while Fatimah was still alive, that was a deal he made with RasulAllah (sawa) so I don't know what you're talking about.

When you're living in a polygamous household such things are to be expected especially when the husband is the best of creation. It's only natural that every wife will want to spend more time and demand more attention from the Prophet (SAW).
That doesn't mean you get to insult the other Mothers of Believers.  Wallahi if Khadijah had said about Aisha what Aisha had said about Khadijah, you would hate her and call her a rafidi.


She is your mother. Accept it, and love her.  :D

Mothers aren't always good people to be loved.  Google "Andrea Yates" and see how terrible mothers can be ;)



@Taha,


I don't know which honey narration you're talking about, but as far as Zaynab she was `A'ishah's competition, the Prophet (saw) favored them both above the rest of his other wives, Zaynab did side with `A'ishah in the Ifk incident.

The honey incident happened because Zaynab bint Jaysh used to make honey drinks for the Holy Prophet (sawa) and Aisha and Hafsa got jealous because he enjoyed the drinks.  So they schemed of a way to get him to dislike Zaynab and eventually they told him that his breath stinks after he was with her (the Prophet disliked bad breath) and from that time on he would never take a drink from Zaynab bint Jaysh ever again.


There is also the incident where he was supposed to be married to an important lady and Aisha tricked the bride into not going through with it.  She told the new bride something like "at the wedding, say "I seek refuge in God from you" and the Prophet will love you even more for acting shy".  And then the lady did this and the Prophet left her at once and they were not married.


So to conclude, Aisha insulted the most respected Mother of Believers (Khadijah), she tricked the Prophet into loving another Mother of Believers (Zaynab bint Jaysh) less, she broke up a Prophetic marriage, went to war with (and caused the murder of) the Third Caliph, and went to war with (and tried to murder but failed) the Fourth Caliph.


And we are supposed to love her the absolute most?



You know, the Ifk is when some people accused the Prophet's (saw) wife of a bad thing, then the Prophet (saw) asked people for their opinions, Zaynab stood with `A'ishah, until finally Allah revealed verses of truth and prohibited people from accusing the Prophet's (saw) wives.

The verse that was revealed was revealed for Maria the Copt (r.a), not Aisha.  Aisha's infidelity went unanswered by Allah (s.w.t) as far as I know.

Farid

Re: Prophet (saw): "Don't harm me by harming Aisha". (Sahih Bukhari)
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2015, 09:33:48 AM »
@ Taha:

About the "honey hadith": Anyone who criticizes A'isha about this is not married. =p

Hani will answer the rest of the stuff, I'm sure. =)

 

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