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Umar And Bravery - Answering the Shia Allegations
« on: February 18, 2016, 06:05:04 PM »
Responding to Shia Claim: Umar was a Coward

In this article, we briefly respond to common Shia allegations that surround the character of Amir al-Muminin Umar, his bravery, and his actions during battle.

-Who did Umar kill in Battle?
-Umar leads a Battalion
-The Fear of Umar from Quraish when he converted to Islam
-Umar Runs Away from Battle at Uhud
-Umar Runs Away from Battle at Hunayn

http://twelvershia.net/2016/02/17/responding-to-shia-claim-umar-was-a-coward/

در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Re: Umar And Bravery - Answering the Shia Allegations
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2020, 11:50:23 PM »
A Shia of Dajjal Zindeeq tried to respond the weakening of the report from narrator Abu Hisham - regarding Umar(ra). The article has been updated about that:

Abu Hisham was weakened by the following Scholars:

(a). Imam al-Bukhari. [See, Taqreeb al-Tahdheeb, page 909, #6442] ; [Tareekh Baghdad, vol 4, page 598] ; [Ilal al-Tirmidhi al-Kabeer, page 172, #301].

(b). Mohammad bin Abdullah bin Numayr. [See, Mizan al-itidal, vol 4, page 68, #8326].

(c). Imam an-Nasai. [See, Tahdhib al-Tahdhib vol 9, page 526].

(d). Abu Hatim ar-Raazi. [Tahdhib al-Tahdhib vol 9, page 527].

(e). Imam Abu Amr ad-Dani. [See, Tahdhib al-Tahdhib vol 9, page 527].

(f). Imam al-Daraqutni. [See, Su’alat Abi Abd al-Raḥman al-Sulami lil-Daraqutni fi jarḥ wa al- ta’dil wa ilal al-hadeeth, page 137].

(g). Abu Ahmad bin Adi al-Jurjani. [Tahdhib al-Tahdhib vol 9, page 527].

(h). Abu Ahmad al-Hakim. [See, Tahdhib al-Tahdhib vol 9, page 527].

(i). Uthman bin Abi Shaibah. [See, Tahdhib al-Tahdhib vol 9, page 526].

(j). Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani. [See, Taqreeb al-Tahdheeb, page 909, #6442].

(k). Imam ibn al-Jawzi included him in. [Kitab al-Dua’fa wa al-Matrookeen, by ibn al-Jazwi, vol 3, page 107-108, #3251].

(l). Shaykh Shuaib al-Arnaut. [Tahreer Taqreeb al-Tahdheeb, vol 3, page 335, #6402] ; [Musnad Ahmad, vol 5, page 285].

(m). Shaykh Bashar Awaad Ma’roof. [Tahreer Taqreeb al-Tahdheeb, vol 3, page 335, #6402].

(n). Shaykh Nasiruddin al-Albani. [Silsila al-Ahadith al-Daeefa wa al-Mawdua, vol 8, page 304-305, #3843] ; [Silsila al-Ahadith al-Daeefa wa al-Mawdua, #1216].

(o). Shaykh Wasi ullah bin Muhammad Abbas. [Fadhail al-Sahaba, vol 1, page 297, #392] ; [Fadhail al-Sahaba, vol 1, page 419, #654].

(p). Muhaqqiq Abul Ashbal Al-Zuhayri. [Jami’ bayan al-ilm wa fadlihi, vol 1, page 206, #218] ; [Jami’ bayan al-ilm wa fadlihi, vol 1, page 769-770, #1422].

(q). Muhaqqiq Dr. Abdullah al-Ruhayli. [Man tukallim fihi wa huwa muwaththaq aw saleh al-hadith, page 477-478, #323].

(r).Shaykh Abdullah bin Abdul Haleem bin Mohammad al-Sisi. [Saheeh wa Da’eef al-Ahadeeth al-Qudsiyyah, vol 2, page 114-115].

(s). The website for Hadith narrators state the same about Abu Hisham. [Screen shot].

(t). Imam ad-Dhahabi included him in [Al-Mughni fi ‘l-Du’afa (an authoritative abridged manual of weak narrators) – vol 2 page 388, #6092] and [Deewan al-Duafa wal Matrookeen, page 380 #4044]. ad-Dhahabi also stated that: He has many Manakeer(denounced reports) in [Man tukallim fihi wa huwa muwaththaq aw saleh al-hadith, page 477-478, #323] implying that even though he was an honest narrator who was accused incorrectly, yet he was a weak narrator, who narrated many denounced reports.

(u). Ibn Hibban even though included him in his Kitab al-Thiqaat, yet he pointed out that he used to make mistakes, which implies that he was an honest guy, but weak in hadith transmission. [Kitab al-Thiqaat, vol 5, page 466].

Further details in the below link:
https://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/the-bravery-of-imam-abu-bakrra-and-imam-umarra/

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Re: Umar And Bravery - Answering the Shia Allegations
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2020, 09:36:55 PM »
You should learn a thing about linguistics. You tend to distort language beyond norms too much and people would never speak in a way you guys suggest. 
"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

 

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