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Furkan

shi'ites on board
« on: January 10, 2015, 09:00:45 PM »
Assalamu alaykum.

The forum doesnt't have many (active) members but especially shi'ites are absent on this forum. Is it possible to invite new people to the forum trough other forums/blogs/... ?
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

Ebn Hussein

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 02:59:27 AM »
The forum is new. The brothers have invited the the best debaters of Sh!achat to debate on core issues like Ghadir (Imamah). None of them dared to come. I rather view this place here as a gathering place for Muslims to expose Rafidism for what it is. Active or non-active readers can learn and use the stuff as ammunition to give the Rawafid hard times and knock some sense in the head of those Rawafid who have an atom of sincerity in their heart.
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Furkan

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 03:59:52 AM »
Yes I saw how Farid invited them on shiachat but all they did was complain about the design of this website haha. And this forum has indeed very good stuf. Maybe people are reluctant because they think registering is hard :p
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

adnan42

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015, 04:37:55 AM »
i think every shia knows he has different beliefs then Sunni. it the other way around where the major problem is.
many Sunni don't know about shia kufr.
heck i didn't know shia kufr a year back. my cousin is married to shia (12er) so a couple of months back i told her that her husband is a kafr and what she is doing is zina. i did try to explain her but she cut me off her father curse me every time we meet. hey at least now she knows or at least have idea about it.

Furkan

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015, 05:01:08 AM »

Something I also noticed is the way laymen Shiites behave in general when it comes to Sunni Shia issues. They are brainwashed by their scholars that their religion can be proven with sunnibooks. And so the shiite laymen don't check if this is true or not and keep staying ignorant of hadithsciences. And that's why I am always searsching for eye-openners to convince Shiites into researsching those issues but then they say " our imams are masoom"

:p
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

adnan42

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 05:06:41 AM »
^true.  ;D

Ameen

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2015, 05:12:28 AM »
The forum is new. The brothers have invited the the best debaters of Sh!achat to debate on core issues like Ghadir (Imamah). None of them dared to come. I rather view this place here as a gathering place for Muslims to expose Rafidism for what it is. Active or non-active readers can learn and use the stuff as ammunition to give the Rawafid hard times and knock some sense in the head of those Rawafid who have an atom of sincerity in their heart.

Invited for what??? Discussion, debate??? All you have here is absurd statements and attacks. So what do you expect??? They have also invited you over on Shiachat, have you dared to go??? It works both ways. They haven't bothered to come here because of your attitude and behaviour. If someone slagged off, abused you and your faith, would you have bothered???

Ameen

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2015, 05:19:17 AM »

Something I also noticed is the way laymen Shiites behave in general when it comes to Sunni Shia issues. They are brainwashed by their scholars that their religion can be proven with sunnibooks. And so the shiite laymen don't check if this is true or not and keep staying ignorant of hadithsciences. And that's why I am always searsching for eye-openners to convince Shiites into researsching those issues but then they say " our imams are masoom"

:p

The issue is the same regarding you. What ever you've said the same applies to you from the other side. So what's the difference??? Or how different are you. You guys just love slang matches. There is no discussion or debate here. If there is then it's limited. Your attitude and language is like those who love slang matches, who love to get in to verbal abuse. That's just about it.

Ameen

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 05:26:54 AM »
i think every shia knows he has different beliefs then Sunni. it the other way around where the major problem is.
many Sunni don't know about shia kufr.
heck i didn't know shia kufr a year back. my cousin is married to shia (12er) so a couple of months back i told her that her husband is a kafr and what she is doing is zina. i did try to explain her but she cut me off her father curse me every time we meet. hey at least now she knows or at least have idea about it.

Just because you said it, so she should blindly accept it. It's that what you're looking for??? Did you discuss with her??? Through justified argument??? Through reasoning??? Proper explanation??? Did you back your statement "Shia Kufr" or "Shias are Kafir" with evidence and proof???

This is your weakest link. Believe us. Why should we believe you??? Because we say so. If you disagree then you're a Kafir but if you agree then you're in Taqiyya. It's a joke!

Ameen

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2015, 05:33:31 AM »
Yes I saw how Farid invited them on shiachat but all they did was complain about the design of this website haha. And this forum has indeed very good stuf. Maybe people are reluctant because they think registering is hard :p

Really good stuff??? Well it's easy. Get a picture or name of a scholar, stick your favour tune under it and then advertise it. Easy.

Get a picture of a bathroom, right bad stuff about the companions or wives on the foor and then advertise it. Easy.

Then scream for you desired result, Shias are soooo baaaad! Then pat each other on the back over it.

Ameen

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2015, 05:42:27 AM »
Assalamu alaykum.

The forum doesnt't have many (active) members but especially shi'ites are absent on this forum. Is it possible to invite new people to the forum trough other forums/blogs/... ?

Yes you can. It's simple. Put an end to double standards, sarcasm, prejudice, bias, favouritism, arrogance, ignorance, taking sides, being onesided, accusing, abusing, attacking etc. Bring on a balanced argument, reasoning, fairness and justice, equality, principals, rules and regulations that are equal and same for all, then you've got yourself a deal. Otherwise people are not bothered. They don't care. What you say or do has no effect on them because they see you as a group of boys with extremist views. That just about sums it all up.

Ebn Hussein

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2015, 08:17:57 AM »
Yes I saw how Farid invited them on shiachat but all they did was complain about the design of this website haha. And this forum has indeed very good stuf. Maybe people are reluctant because they think registering is hard :p

Really good stuff??? Well it's easy. Get a picture or name of a scholar, stick your favour tune under it and then advertise it. Easy.

Get a picture of a bathroom, right bad stuff about the companions or wives on the foor and then advertise it. Easy.

Then scream for you desired result, Shias are soooo baaaad! Then pat each other on the back over it.

What about this one Ameen:

Get a fatwa of the kafir Khomeini, screen shots from his book (i.e. academical evidence, not made up stuff), right bad stuff about the wive of the Prophet (SAWS) calling filthier than a pig and dog then advertise it to the English speaking community, so nobody's gonna be fooled by Iranian propaganda and by its apologetic stooges such as yourself. Easy.

Here the link btw to the kafir khomeini's statement:

http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/khomeini-declares-the-wive-of-rasulullah-of-being-more-impure-than-a-dog/msg2117/#new
« Last Edit: January 11, 2015, 08:20:31 AM by Ebn Hussein »
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Furkan

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2015, 03:14:57 PM »
Ameen please don't ruin this topic with your philosophy. I am just very honest of what I think and I feel bad for the general Shiites.
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

Optimus Prime

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2015, 07:01:23 PM »
Assalamu alaykum.

The forum doesnt't have many (active) members but especially shi'ites are absent on this forum. Is it possible to invite new people to the forum trough other forums/blogs/... ?

Yes you can. It's simple. Put an end to double standards, sarcasm, prejudice, bias, favouritism, arrogance, ignorance, taking sides, being onesided, accusing, abusing, attacking etc. Bring on a balanced argument, reasoning, fairness and justice, equality, principals, rules and regulations that are equal and same for all, then you've got yourself a deal. Otherwise people are not bothered. They don't care. What you say or do has no effect on them because they see you as a group of boys with extremist views. That just about sums it all up.

The part in bold might seem that way in your mind because most of what you'll encounter on these forums will be the haq that which, you're probably not able to stomach.

Whenever you've put on the hot-seat to address certain points all you've done is question it's legitimacy and authenticity, and trying to persuade the reader(s) or audience to think outside the box. You also label us of picking and choosing what suits us. I don't geddit. If our own sources that which, is authentic and corroborates your version of Islam then we're instructed to at least give it due consideration, but thus far you haven't even provided snippet of anything that's worth mulling over. Either that or your interpretation of verses of the Qur'an is more far-fetched that Einstein's field equations.

I think you're just being a cry baby and way overtly sensitive.

Ameen

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2015, 08:16:16 PM »
Ameen please don't ruin this topic with your philosophy. I am just very honest of what I think and I feel bad for the general Shiites.

Well if your very honest then so am I. You fee bad for the general Shias and I am concerned for the average and common individuals, the audience and viewers that they get both sides of an argument, picture and story. I denounce extremism and extremist views, like on this forum,

Ameen

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2015, 08:21:49 PM »
Assalamu alaykum.

The forum doesnt't have many (active) members but especially shi'ites are absent on this forum. Is it possible to invite new people to the forum trough other forums/blogs/... ?

Yes you can. It's simple. Put an end to double standards, sarcasm, prejudice, bias, favouritism, arrogance, ignorance, taking sides, being onesided, accusing, abusing, attacking etc. Bring on a balanced argument, reasoning, fairness and justice, equality, principals, rules and regulations that are equal and same for all, then you've got yourself a deal. Otherwise people are not bothered. They don't care. What you say or do has no effect on them because they see you as a group of boys with extremist views. That just about sums it all up.

The part in bold might seem that way in your mind because most of what you'll encounter on these forums will be the haq that which, you're probably not able to stomach.

Whenever you've put on the hot-seat to address certain points all you've done is question it's legitimacy and authenticity, and trying to persuade the reader(s) or audience to think outside the box. You also label us of picking and choosing what suits us. I don't geddit. If our own sources that which, is authentic and corroborates your version of Islam then we're instructed to at least give it due consideration, but thus far you haven't even provided snippet of anything that's worth mulling over. Either that or your interpretation of verses of the Qur'an is more far-fetched that Einstein's field equations.

I think you're just being a cry baby and way overtly sensitive.

I can say exactly the same about you but I'm not in to sarcasm. I believe in democracy and freedom to think. You believe in extremism and hatred.

Optimus Prime

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2015, 11:49:26 PM »
Assalamu alaykum.

The forum doesnt't have many (active) members but especially shi'ites are absent on this forum. Is it possible to invite new people to the forum trough other forums/blogs/... ?

Yes you can. It's simple. Put an end to double standards, sarcasm, prejudice, bias, favouritism, arrogance, ignorance, taking sides, being onesided, accusing, abusing, attacking etc. Bring on a balanced argument, reasoning, fairness and justice, equality, principals, rules and regulations that are equal and same for all, then you've got yourself a deal. Otherwise people are not bothered. They don't care. What you say or do has no effect on them because they see you as a group of boys with extremist views. That just about sums it all up.

The part in bold might seem that way in your mind because most of what you'll encounter on these forums will be the haq that which, you're probably not able to stomach.

Whenever you've put on the hot-seat to address certain points all you've done is question it's legitimacy and authenticity, and trying to persuade the reader(s) or audience to think outside the box. You also label us of picking and choosing what suits us. I don't geddit. If our own sources that which, is authentic and corroborates your version of Islam then we're instructed to at least give it due consideration, but thus far you haven't even provided snippet of anything that's worth mulling over. Either that or your interpretation of verses of the Qur'an is more far-fetched that Einstein's field equations.

I think you're just being a cry baby and way overtly sensitive.

I can say exactly the same about you but I'm not in to sarcasm. I believe in democracy and freedom to think. You believe in extremism and hatred.

If you say so.

You've not given me or anyone this forum something provocative to ponder to that would remotely suggest that your version of Islam has any truth attach to it.

Farid

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2015, 06:09:10 AM »
Assalamu alaykum.

The forum doesnt't have many (active) members but especially shi'ites are absent on this forum. Is it possible to invite new people to the forum trough other forums/blogs/... ?

Don't hesitate to invite them brother.
I'm not surprised that they avoid this place. Some brothers here are powerful when it comes to providing evidences that cast a doubt upon Shias. Most people are not comfortable being wrong about matters of ideology.

Optimus Prime

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2015, 04:59:45 PM »
Assalamu alaykum.

The forum doesnt't have many (active) members but especially shi'ites are absent on this forum. Is it possible to invite new people to the forum trough other forums/blogs/... ?

Don't hesitate to invite them brother.
I'm not surprised that they avoid this place. Some brothers here are powerful when it comes to providing evidences that cast a doubt upon Shias. Most people are not comfortable being wrong about matters of ideology.

I'll try and invite one Rafidhi, I know.

Furkan

Re: shi'ites on board
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2015, 05:05:25 PM »
I wonder why the Shia heavy weights won't join atleast. I know Nader is here too but not actively I assume.
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

 

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