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Did Imam Abu Hanifa radiallahu anh- really said this?

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Ahlus_sunnah

Did Imam Abu Hanifa radiallahu anh- really said this?
« on: January 23, 2015, 11:46:12 PM »
Hanafi scholar Abul Ala Al Ustuwai (343-432 h/954-1040 m) writes:
 
وعن سَلْم بن سالم قال : سمعت أبا حنيفة - رضي الله عنه – يقول : ما جاريتُ أحدا بسيئته قط ، قال : أتدْرون لِم يُبغِضُنا أهلُ البصْرة ؟ قلنا : لا , قال : لأنا لو حضَرنا صِفِّين كُنا مع عليِّ رضي الله عنه على معاوية , فلذلك لا يُحبُّوننا
 
Source: Abul Ala Al Ustuüai: Kitabul İtiqad: 191
Beirut: Darul Kutubil İlmiyyah: 2005

My question:did Imam Abu Hanifa really said that we would have taken side of Hazrat Ali (R) in battle of Siffin against Ameer Muawiya (R)?

He did not believe that both were on Haq?


Furkan

Re: Did Imam Abu Hanifa radiallahu anh- really said this?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2015, 11:47:39 PM »
Ali was right in his ijtihad.
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

Hani

Re: Did Imam Abu Hanifa radiallahu anh- really said this?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2015, 11:52:11 PM »
What's the problem if he sided with `Ali, didn't `Ammar for instance side with `Ali? Does that make his status lower?
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ebn Hussein

Re: Did Imam Abu Hanifa radiallahu anh- really said this?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2015, 12:15:49 AM »
Both were on Haqq? What the heck?! Ali was on Haqq in all his battles, but a was no Takfiri Rafidi and never made takfir on his opponents (like Mu'awiyah) as the Rafidi sect does. Shaykh Al-Shithri (Saudi scholar) once sad something beautiful on a TV show. He said Ali was very sad during all the battles between himself and his brothers the Sahaba, this is because it was a fitnah a confusing time even for Ali. But when Ali fought at Nahrawan against the  Khawarij he had NO doubt that he was on Haqq, that was the time were he smiled while chopping off the heads of teh Khawarij.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 01:18:43 PM by Hani »
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Optimus Prime

Re: Did Imam Abu Hanifa radiallahu anh- really said this?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2015, 03:58:27 AM »
Ali was right in his ijtihad.

In both battles.

Furkan

Re: Did Imam Abu Hanifa radiallahu anh- really said this?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2015, 04:01:57 AM »
In all battles bro.

Ali Ali mawla :p
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

Bolani Muslim

Re: Did Imam Abu Hanifa radiallahu anh- really said this?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2015, 04:59:17 AM »
Ali Ali mawla :p
NAAAADEEEEEE HAYYDAREEEEE!!!!!!
« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 05:02:23 AM by Bolani Muslim »

 

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