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« Last post by MuslimK on April 08, 2023, 05:45:40 PM »
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Some doors open upon other doors in the Quran. Which open other doors.

Without making a post length, if 33:6, 33:33, 4:54-59, 5:55, 42:23 + 25:57 and many other verses, are accepted for what they truly mean and in their proper place, aside from the dimension of social and political aspects of leadership of Ahlulbayt (a), there is a special spiritual mystic reality talked about in Quran.

The connection:

وَإِنْ كَانَ كَبُرَ عَلَيْكَ إِعْرَاضُهُمْ فَإِنِ اسْتَطَعْتَ أَنْ تَبْتَغِيَ نَفَقًا فِي الْأَرْضِ أَوْ سُلَّمًا فِي السَّمَاءِ فَتَأْتِيَهُمْ بِآيَةٍ ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لَجَمَعَهُمْ عَلَى الْهُدَىٰ ۚ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْجَاهِلِينَ | And should their aversion be hard on you, find, if you can, seek a tunnel into the ground, or a ladder into sky, that you may bring them a sign. Had Allah wished, He would have brought them together on guidance. So do not be one of the ignorant. | Al-An'aam : 35

What is the sign and why can't Mohammad (s) bring it to disbelievers, Surah Hijr expands:

وَلَوْ فَتَحْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ بَابًا مِنَ السَّمَاءِ فَظَلُّوا فِيهِ يَعْرُجُونَ | Were We to open for them a gate of the sky, so that they could go on ascending through it, | Al-Hijr : 14

لَقَالُوا إِنَّمَا سُكِّرَتْ أَبْصَارُنَا بَلْ نَحْنُ قَوْمٌ مَسْحُورُونَ | they would surely say, ‘Indeed our vision is intoxicated; indeed, we are a bewitched lot.’ | Al-Hijr : 15

While they would react to it, Quran then says:

وَلَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا فِي السَّمَاءِ بُرُوجًا وَزَيَّنَّاهَا لِلنَّاظِرِينَ | Certainly We have made strongholds in the sky and adorned them for the onlookers, | Al-Hijr : 16

وَحَفِظْنَاهَا مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْطَانٍ رَجِيمٍ | and We have guarded it from every outcast Satan, | Al-Hijr : 17

إِلَّا مَنِ اسْتَرَقَ السَّمْعَ فَأَتْبَعَهُ شِهَابٌ مُبِينٌ | except someone who may eavesdrop, whereat there pursues him a manifest flame. | Al-Hijr : 18

This means, spiritually seeing these stars is encouraged by the Quran.

وَلَقَدْ زَيَّنَّا السَّمَاءَ الدُّنْيَا بِمَصَابِيحَ وَجَعَلْنَاهَا رُجُومًا لِلشَّيَاطِينِ ۖ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابَ السَّعِيرِ | We have certainly adorned the world’s heaven with lamps, and made them [the means of pelting] missiles against the devils, and We have prepared for them a punishment of the Blaze. | Al-Mulk : 5
أَفَسِحْرٌ هَٰذَا أَمْ أَنْتُمْ لَا تُبْصِرُونَ | Is this, then, [also] magic, or is it you who do not perceive? | At-Tur : 15
فَلَا أُقْسِمُ بِمَوَاقِعِ النُّجُومِ | Nay I swear by the positions of the stars | Al-Waaqia : 75
وَإِنَّهُ لَقَسَمٌ لَوْ تَعْلَمُونَ عَظِيمٌ | And indeed it is should you know an oath that is great Al-Waaqia : 76
وَالسَّمَاءِ ذَاتِ الْبُرُوجِ |And by the heaven with its structures/houses/mansions| Al-Burooj : 1
وَأَنَّا لَمَسْنَا السَّمَاءَ فَوَجَدْنَاهَا مُلِئَتْ حَرَسًا شَدِيدًا وَشُهُبًا | Indeed we made for the heaven and found it full of mighty sentries and flames. | Al-Jinn : 8
وَأَنَّا كُنَّا نَقْعُدُ مِنْهَا مَقَاعِدَ لِلسَّمْعِ ۖ فَمَنْ يَسْتَمِعِ الْآنَ يَجِدْ لَهُ شِهَابًا رَصَدًا | We used to sit in its positions to eavesdrop, but anyone listening now finds a flame waiting for him. | Al-Jinn : 9

This shows heaven/sky was augmented with the coming of Mohammad (s).  Although, there is always a family guiding and being such weapons against dark magic, the humble enough Jinn realized it’s never been this strong, and this is an overwhelming power, that if all Jinn united, they cannot defeat. At least this was realized by a great amount of them at that time although is true of all times, it became more obvious now.

The heavenly augmentation of this house and family, caused a portion of the Jinn to submit.

The heavenly family and household are surely to be used by believers to annul the dark magic from both Jinn and humans.

وَالْبَيْتِ الْمَعْمُورِ | and (by) the House/Family greatly frequented; | At-Tur : 4
وَالسَّقْفِ الْمَرْفُوعِ | and (by) the vault raised high, | At-Tur : 5
وَالْبَحْرِ الْمَسْجُورِ | and (by) the surging sea: | At-Tur : 6

It’s this house and family that ultimately prove better then anything else that there is no escape from God and the punishment of God is surely coming to the rebels to God and oppressors.

All Satanic forces can unite but:
إِنَّ عَذَابَ رَبِّكَ لَوَاقِعٌ | indeed your Lord’s punishment will surely befall. | At-Tur : 7
مَا لَهُ مِنْ دَافِعٍ | There is none who can avert it. | At-Tur : 8

As for the verse in Surah Al-Mulk, the word is plural form of the lamp found in the niche in singular form in the following verse:

اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۚ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ ۖ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ ۖ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِنْ شَجَرَةٍ مُبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونَةٍ لَا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ ۚ نُورٌ عَلَىٰ نُورٍ ۗ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَنْ يَشَاءُ ۚ وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ | Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is a niche wherein is a lamp—the lamp is in a glass, the glass as it were a glittering star—lit from a blessed olive tree, neither eastern nor western, whose oil almost lights up, though fire should not touch it. Light upon light. Allah guides to His Light whomever He wishes. Allah draws parables for mankind, and Allah has knowledge of all things. | An-Noor : 35

Imamah-Ghaybah / Why Quran is repetitive.
« Last post by Link on April 03, 2023, 01:48:11 PM »

Paraphrasing the same things over and over again is the bread and butter of Quran.  There are many unique mentions, especially Surah Baqara, which has a lot of unique things, but repetition occurs in Quran a lot.

Some people see this is a bad thing.  It's one of the criticism of disbelievers often. However, if you pay attention to similarities as well differences, you will find in that lies the subtle way God makes Quran contextualize everything it says, preserves it's meanings, and opens doors leading to other doors in Quran.

It's eloquence lies in that, it's going to emphasize the same message again and again, and again, but differently, with subtle dimensions, aspects or emphasis differently Surah to Surah.

Lastly, the smallest Surahs near the end, summarize entire themes found through out Quran that have been repeated. Their eloquence is due to that.

If it were not for how much Quran repeated Tawhid, Surah Ikhlaas would not been what it is. It is there and ultra eloquent for it's relationship to the rest of Quran as well as to how the Quran ends with the small Surahs.

Imamate of Auli-Mohammad (s) is clear. All you have to do is contextualize Quran with Quran, and let it paraphrase the same truth over and over again and put the words about Auli-Mohammad (s) in Quran in context with similar words of past chosen families and leaders of guidance.

Try to put the mini-context with the greater context in the Surah and the Surah with respect to how the same topics are brought up in other Surahs.

This will give you a clear book of illumination.  Soften your heart out of fear of God and love the family of Mohammad (s) at least to the extent you won't deny the clear words of God pertaining to them.

If you cannot fear God to that extent, you will lose the next world without question.
Quran-Tafseer / Re: The name of God - viewpoints.
« Last post by Soccer on March 30, 2023, 06:22:13 PM »
Salah is also very much connected to this, as Quran says "Successful is who purifies himself" "And remembers the name of his Lord therefore connects (by the daily Salahs)"

Therefore the philosophy of Salah is linked to this, and so it makes sense, that every Surah begins with describing something about God's Name.

Quran-Tafseer / Re: The name of God - viewpoints.
« Last post by Soccer on March 30, 2023, 06:19:03 PM »
"by" in the 1:1, is saying, you can hold on to this name.

That is also a description of the straight path and means of holding on to God.
Quran-Tafseer / The name of God - viewpoints.
« Last post by Soccer on March 30, 2023, 06:04:05 PM »

Welcome back everyone. Hope you all having a blessed Ramadan.

There is a hadith that says all of Quran can be found in Surah Fatiha, and all of Surah Fatiha in in it's first verse "By the name..." (1:7).

Defining what a name is:

A word that is used to identify a specific thing and refer back to that thing.

Defining what a title is:

A word that is used to manifest certain traits of a being (usually in a good way, bad titles exist too).

Now titles /= names. We know God has many titles.

When we call the Creator "God", it means he is a being worthy of worship. Usually understood by monotheists to be that he is the only being worthy of worship.

Yet the title itself does not define exactly what is worthy of worship. When we remember the title "Rahman", we think of God's expansive and universal compassion and mercy for all beings.

It however does not define even what the balance between compassion and wrath, in fact, if we look at Quran, a lot of the usage is saying despite hell and his wrath, it remains that God is the Compassionate being in the proper place of compassion.

So if words are themselves not full definitions,  and God existed before languages, what is his true name?

The Quran talks about two type of words of God. There is words as in actual words, such as the phrases found in Quran, then there is a spirit from him such as Isa (a) which is also his living word.

Allah (swt) speaks everything into existence and sees things exactly as is, but Isa (a) is God's word in a sense, that it is praising what all Messengers are. In context, that Messengers are each the spirit from God and his word and that we should not see these descriptions to be about Isa (a) specifically, but about all chosen representatives.

"Allah" word is linked to worship, which is important to use over and over again, and make it the main title we refer to him, because, it reminds that our hearts are exalt him above all others, and revere him above all others.  It's specifically chosen as very useful, because, it's about love and reverence, and the intention and spirit behind submitting to his Messengers.

But some titles although we don't repeat, are more useful in certain contexts.

The holy Prophet (s) in Misbahal Shariah is quoted to have been asked which of God's titles are greatest, and it was said all of them are greatest. Imam Jaffar (a) expanding on that, says in reality God does not have one title over another, he is the one the Supreme.

It can be said that because there are many languages, and many titles, and perhaps different revelations emphasized on different titles depending on the culture of the people, God doesn't really have one title preferred over others. 

Allah makes sense to repeat the most, because, it reminds of the religion and relationship of the hearts to the Creator.

However, it can be said to properly understand God you need light from God emanating from him and pointing to him straight.

The name can be referring to the live perfect words of God, which are his chosen representatives.

The other thing that hadiths have said is God's Name (greatest name), is the Quran. The Quran, however, can be misunderstood, so we can see the truest understanding of it is God's Name which is the heart of Mohammad (s).

When we call "Allah" or "Rahman", how are we connected to know that about the Creator? It's from glorious light and brightness emanating from him.  We see God through light.

The light of God is God's Name,  this is why Quran says "In houses God permitted to be risen and his name remembered therein".

Another synonymous is God's face. The face of God means the same thing as God's Name, except it's emphasizing that something God reveals himself to creation and point back to be directed to God.

By this perfect complete beautiful word of God and face of God, all praise is to God...

What does this mean?

One thing it means, is the name is God's favor and blessing upon all things, and all blessings emanate from this reality.  That God due to this name is to be praised with all praise.

It also means every type of praise found in creation, manifests something about God.

Then Quran emphasizes again on "The Rahman, the Raheem".  God is kind to his servants and wants to favor them through his name.

Then warns "The master of the day of judgment", to show to some degree his name has been hidden, and will be manifested and that his judgment will occur if God fully reveals his name and that we will be accounted on how we dealt with God's Name.

Then directing that his name is a just a means and not the end, but God is the goal and returned to and acknowledged through it, says:

"You do we worship and you do we seek assistance"

Then reveals, indeed, there is but one path to God "Guide us the straight path" and indeed God's Name is a path.

To emphasize how to hold on to his path, it reminds mankind, there is those who he favored "The path of those who you favored upon/regarding", this means there are those who are instances of his name as a favor to rest of creation, who are not "of those who your wrath is upon" which we must avoid "nor of those who are astray", showing we can stray from his path, so to look for these who God favored mankind through to hold on to.

There is a hadith from Imam Jafar (a) that says "the family of Mohammad" are those meant by "those who you favored upon/regarding".

Surah Fatiha is very open in that, most religious people can agree on what it says. Yet when you think about it with rest of Quran, it uses this logic everyone agrees upon, to prove the religion and prove everything about the guidance of God.

People can dispute what the path is and who God favored his religion through, but the Quran will show through the reasoning of these verses, what the true religion has been and is and will always be.

Its a long clip you posted. I will have to make time to watch it.  I would say Sayyed Ayad Jamal Aldin has good view points.

General Sunni-Shia / Re: Once again I require your help
« Last post by Mythbuster1 on April 16, 2020, 12:23:53 PM »
“So Umar knew the Prophet s.a.w better and you know Umar better? 😊 He wanted the Prophet s.a.w to rest and the people to go astray without what the Prophet s.a.w had to put forward.😊 That's how important it was. If it wasn't necessary and important the Prophet s.a.w wouldn't have asked for pen and paper in the first place 😊 You can try all you like but you can't protect the guilty or defend the wrong 😊“

Well it wasn’t DIVINE IMAMATE unless you can provide authentic proofs😂

As for what was to be written you DIMWIT you already posted it from a hadith which you was using against Umar ra😂😂

Don’t ask me to show you that too😂😂

Shiism at its best dumb blind and full of crap 😁
General Sunni-Shia / Re: Once again I require your help
« Last post by Mythbuster1 on April 16, 2020, 12:20:32 PM »
“And what was that? 😊 Don't be afraid. Put the whole episode forward 😊”

It’s well known in Islam, go find it, you know it’s true otherwise you would have it ready and would have broke it down to show how you are right.

But you can’t, instead.......bring the proof bring the proof bring the proof.😂👍👍

Dimwit got owned AGAIN but now he wants proof AFTER lying to us and showing it as proof against Umar ra.

We don’t hate we show reality.👍

Great AQL of shiism😂😆👆
General Sunni-Shia / Re: Once again I require your help
« Last post by Mythbuster1 on April 16, 2020, 12:15:18 PM »
“It's not my fault that Umar's name is clearly mentioned that he was the one who objected, gave the reason for objecting and then came out with the next statement reminding the people that "we have the book of Allah with us" and also telling them that "the book of Allah is sufficient for us", thus giving it clearly away that he knew or had some idea of want the Prophet s.a.w was going to write. A clear conviction. Here. Guilty as hell on this count 😊“

Just as guilty as Ali ra refusing an order from prophet pbuh.

A great Shiite AQL doesn’t realise or will turn a blind eye to his hypocritical understanding 😂

Hypocrisy of Shiite in plain sight😂👍

Thanks syed dimwit ustaad educated from Qom the highest Shiite learning😂😂👍
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