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HughSlaman

The Order to Strive Against the Hypocrites
« on: July 30, 2014, 06:41:53 AM »
This is a question for those Imami Shia who think that various Companions, who are highly respected by Sunnis, were actually hypocrites.

We read in 66:9 of the glorious, perfectly preserved Quran, which no falsehood approaches, the following command:

O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. (Sahih International translation)

Now, which of the first three caliphs, Allah be pleased with them all, did the Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him peace, strive against, and against whom was he harsh? And which of his wives, Allah be pleased with them all, did he strive against, when he remained married to them till his death? May Allah bless him and grant him peace!

Hani

Re: The Order to Strive Against the Hypocrites
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 01:30:37 PM »
I was reading a Shia book the other day and it said that he (saw) kept trying to be friendly towards them and to make a place for them to sit on his right and left side (meaning Abu Bakr & `Umar), the author then says: "Yet they turned against him after his passing."


So no he didn't strive against them I guess : )
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

HughSlaman

Re: The Order to Strive Against the Hypocrites
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2014, 12:49:46 AM »
Right, so since he -- may Allah bless him and grant him peace! -- did not strive against them, then they were believers, and not disbelievers or hypocrites.

We also know that the Prophet  -- may Allah bless him and grant him peace! -- would trust and believe in those who were believers, as we are told in 9:61

And among them are those who abuse the Prophet and say, "He is an ear." Say, "[It is] an ear of goodness for you that believes in Allah and believes the believers and [is] a mercy to those who believe among you." And those who abuse the Messenger of Allah - for them is a painful punishment. (Sahih International translation, emphasis added).

So those who baselessly accuse Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, of lieing in the matter of Fadak are actually going against the Sunna, are they not? Unless, of course, he was a hypocrite -- but wait a minute, in that case, why didn't the Messenger -- may Allah bless him and grant him peace! -- strive hard against him and act harshly with him?

Come on, all you Imami Shias -- I want to hear your response to this! Seriously, it seems to me that the Book of Allah is very generously endowed with all kinds of unexpected evidence against your religion, including evidence that the Sunnis have not even considered yet.

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Re: The Order to Strive Against the Hypocrites
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2014, 01:21:46 AM »
Right, so since he -- may Allah bless him and grant him peace! -- did not strive against them, then they were believers, and not disbelievers or hypocrites.

We also know that the Prophet  -- may Allah bless him and grant him peace! -- would trust and believe in those who were believers, as we are told in 9:61

And among them are those who abuse the Prophet and say, "He is an ear." Say, "[It is] an ear of goodness for you that believes in Allah and believes the believers and [is] a mercy to those who believe among you." And those who abuse the Messenger of Allah - for them is a painful punishment. (Sahih International translation, emphasis added).

So those who baselessly accuse Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, of lieing in the matter of Fadak are actually going against the Sunna, are they not? Unless, of course, he was a hypocrite -- but wait a minute, in that case, why didn't the Messenger -- may Allah bless him and grant him peace! -- strive hard against him and act harshly with him?

Come on, all you Imami Shias -- I want to hear your response to this! Seriously, it seems to me that the Book of Allah is very generously endowed with all kinds of unexpected evidence against your religion, including evidence that the Sunnis have not even considered yet.

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Re: The Order to Strive Against the Hypocrites
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015, 06:22:59 PM »
Good point on this one. I really want to know how rawafis explain this issue.
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

 

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