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Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« on: May 27, 2020, 09:51:01 PM »
Without going into chain wise, you guys can correct me if I'm wrong but the following are agreed upon to authentic if Sunni Rijal system has any merit.

1. "You have the position to me as Harun does to Musa, except there is no Nabi after me" - Prophet (s)

2. "Our position is as the Ship of Noah or the gate of Hitta of the children of Israel"  - stated by Ali (a).

3. "God loves Hussain and loves who loves Hussain, surely Hussain is one of the Asbat" - Prophet (s).

4. Mubahila event - the Prophet (s) took Ali (a), Fatima (s), Hassan (a) and Hussain (a) and said "these are my family".

5. The event of cloak - the Prophet (s) gathered Ali (a), Fatima (a), Hassan (a) and Hussain (a) under the cloak upon revelation of the revelation of the words "God only desires to... and purify you thorough purification."

6. "We are the Ahlul-Thikr" - Imam Mohammad Al-Baqir (a).

7. "No one would love Ali except a believer and no one would hate him but a hypocrite" - Prophet (s) (not sure if this one is disputed or not).

8. The event ghadeer includes the following: "Prophet paired Ahlulbayt with Quran in terms of what he is leaving us, emphasized on there is no separation between Quran and Ahlulbayt but a complete unity, emphasized on his own Wilayah and paired Ali with his own Wilayah".

7. The Prophet (s) said Fatima (a) is the Leader of all women of paradise.

8. The Prophet (s) said the affair of this religion would not cease to be (strong) until twelve Successors come, all of them from Quraysh.

9. God will send the Mahdi (a).

10. The Mahdi (a) is from Ahlulbayt, one of the offspring of Fatima (s).

11. Jesus (a) will pray behind the Mahdi (a) and emphasize that God graced some of this nation over others.


Let me know if I'm mistaken about any of these being not disputed.









"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 11:38:30 PM »
8. The event ghadeer includes the following: "Prophet paired Ahlulbayt with Quran in terms of what he is leaving us, emphasized on there is no separation between Quran and Ahlulbayt but a complete unity, emphasized on his own Wilayah and paired Ali with his own Wilayah".
It was Walayah(friendship) not Wilayah.


11. Jesus (a) will pray behind the Mahdi (a) and emphasize that God graced some of this nation over others.
Isa(as) will pray behind Mahdi(as) because Mahdi(as) will have authority upon the arrival of Isa(as) and Prophet(S) said: No man must lead another in prayer where (the latter) has authority.

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Re: Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2020, 01:28:46 AM »
It was Walayah(friendship) not Wilayah.

 Isa(as) will pray behind Mahdi(as) because Mahdi(as) will have authority upon the arrival of Isa(as) and Prophet(S) said: No man must lead another in prayer where (the latter) has authority.

Anyone can make up their reasons, the Prophet (s) chose to emphasize that Jesus (a) will pray behind the Mahdi (a). It's not a random event that needs explanation and excuses, it's clear.

If had no significance and wasn't issue of guidance, the Prophet (s) wouldn't have emphasized on it.

But that's all Sunnis do, de-signify verses in Quran and de-signify statements made the Prophet (s) and give weight to their own conjectures.


"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2020, 02:05:47 AM »
Anyone can make up their reasons...
Like you do, which not even your scholars come up with , that's why no one bothers to respond to your baseless self-made reasons.

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Re: Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2020, 02:09:12 AM »
Like you do, which not even your scholars come up with , that's why no one bothers to respond to your baseless self-made reasons.

Truth is not determined by conjecture of majority.  Humanity in general don't care to know the truth and are satisfied with making religion a thing of convenience and deceive themselves by their nafs regarding it.

That said, till the Mahdi comes back, we don't need to know everything pertaining to the religion and claim to have figured it all out.

Things went wrong, relax, and learn in a pace we can.  Just don't attribute God what you don't know and accept what has been proven and is clear.

"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2020, 02:47:38 AM »
Truth is not determined by conjecture of majority.  Humanity in general don't care to know the truth and are satisfied with making religion a thing of convenience and deceive themselves by their nafs regarding it.

That said, till the Mahdi comes back, we don't need to know everything pertaining to the religion and claim to have figured it all out.

Things went wrong, relax, and learn in a pace we can.  Just don't attribute God what you don't know and accept what has been proven and is clear.
Your truth in most cases is that which no one ever came up with, you alone. That's why I suggested you to take medication.

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Re: Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2020, 02:53:26 AM »
Your truth in most cases is that which no one ever came up with, you alone.

And there was one believer in Suratal Yaseen, what's your point?
"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2020, 03:03:33 AM »
And there was one believer in Suratal Yaseen, what's your point?
lol. so one knows the truth in world, only mr link aka soccer . stop being delusional.

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Re: Undisputed hadiths by Sunns.
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2020, 03:14:11 AM »
lol. so one knows the truth in world, only mr link aka soccer . stop being delusional.

Most people don't know how the Quran warns about the Mahdi more then it gives good news of the Mahdi.

The sorcery, I'm one of the few in the world, who knows how to defeat it, because I would've longed died if I didn't learn how to fight it.

And because I learned how to fight, I defeat it with respect to Quran as well.

I see demonic powers and sense magic, and also I see demons. I understand if you were Atheist and you say I'm crazy for this, but if you believe in that world as you should by Quran, than you should know, I see it all the time.

This one reason why it's easier, because, I literally can sense the magic binds on verses and undue them. But most humans can't even realize the nature of the sorcery nor do they guard against it coming to Quran.

They are immersed in it, and can't see beyond what Satan tells them Quran is.

I can try to help you destroy what Satan cast, but you need to listen attentively and not to argue.


"Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

 

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