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Shin In the Quran

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Rationalist

Re: Shin In the Quran
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2018, 07:01:50 PM »
Zlatan this is bumped for you.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Re: Shin In the Quran
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2018, 05:36:27 PM »
Zlatan this is bumped for you.

I think the brother @WhoareShia answered you. He brought the hadiths from our books which explain it.

What do you want me to comment on?
محور المقاومة والممانعة

Rationalist

Re: Shin In the Quran
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2018, 06:27:55 PM »
He copied and pasted two traditions which make the Rafidi Imam look inferior to Abdullah in Abbas. So first to explain this verse Jafar shows his own shin, then he says a ray of light will appear. This is your agreement with whoaretheShia? It looks like you are another blind muqalid like the average Rafidis.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Re: Shin In the Quran
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2018, 10:21:16 AM »
He copied and pasted two traditions which make the Rafidi Imam look inferior to Abdullah in Abbas. So first to explain this verse Jafar shows his own shin, then he says a ray of light will appear. This is your agreement with whoaretheShia? It looks like you are another blind muqalid like the average Rafidis.

What is meant is he is saying it is not this shin - i.e the body part.
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muslim720

Re: Shin In the Quran
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2018, 12:58:55 AM »
Interestingly, someone (with an Iranian name) posted the following narration on Quora.

Imam Reza (A.S) has been reported as having said: "In the subject of tawhid (divine unity), people are of three tendencies: 'Negation (of the attributes); likening (God's attributes to physical attributes) and substantiation of the attributes without likening.  It is not permissible to deny the attributes nor is it permissible to liken themAnd what is the right path and the correct method, is the establishment of the attributes without likening." (Sheikh Saduq, al-Tawhid, researched and corrected by Hussein, Hashem, p. 101, Islamic Publications Office, Qom, first edition, 1398 A.H.)

The Arabic goes as follows:

  «للناس فی التوحید ثلاثة مذاهب: نفی، و تشبیه، و اثبات بغیر تشبیه، فمذهب النفی لا یجوز، و مذهب التشبیه لا یجوز، و السبیل فی الطریقة الثالثة، اثبات بلا تشبیه»

In other words, the correct way is to believe in these attributes in such a way that we do not end up likening them to physical attributes.

Isn't that our (Sunnis') stance?
"Our coward ran from those in authority" - Iceman (admitting the truth regarding his 12th Imam)

Rationalist

Re: Shin In the Quran
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2018, 04:18:29 AM »
What is meant is he is saying it is not this shin - i.e the body part.
Yah but his explanation is horrible. Firstly Imam Jafar shows his own shin, and he doesn't explain why the term shin in used. Abdullah ibn Abbas on the other hands shows a much superior explanation. In fact, a Rafidi Mufassir Agha Pooya did not even both relying on Shaykh Saduq's works. He actually took the narration from the Bakri sources.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 04:28:33 AM by Rationalist »

 

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