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Shaykh Tusi Said Imam Ali (as) forbade Muta under Taqiyyah

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Shaykh Tusi Said Imam Ali (as) forbade Muta under Taqiyyah
« on: February 23, 2015, 12:56:50 AM »
In many of these sources, and in Shi'i sources as well, the words: 'on the day of the Battle of Khaybar' are added. The Shi'i report that the great Shi'i ulama' such as al-Shaykh al Tusi considered this saying authentic but maintained that 'Ali was practicing taqiyya or 'dissimulation' when he uttered it-i.e., he was hiding the true situation in order to protect himself. (Wasa'il, IV, 441, hadith 32.)

http://www.al-islam.org/muta-temporary-marriage-in-islamic-law-sachiko-murata/legitimacy-muta#footnote31_i9ixbxm

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Re: Shaykh Tusi Said Imam Ali (as) forbade Muta under Taqiyyah
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 01:11:41 AM »
Shias will argue that he said this when he was in fear, due to taqiyyah. We argue that this point is simply absurd, for it brings us back to the article of SoA, who reminds us that some very major Sunni scholars in the past for a period of time believed in muta’ah, like Ibn Juraij. One should also be aware that Ibn Juraij is a contemporary of Ja’afar Al-Sadiq and both men were very much respected in their communities. It is in light of this information that we simply cannot accept that Ja’afar Al-Sadiq feared for his life, and thus taught the prohibition of muta’a, out of fear, since there is no reason to be afraid, since Ibn Juraij practiced it! All that Ja’afar Al-Sadiq needs to say is: O’ people, look! Ibn Juraij practices it! Why do you condemn me?!

Similarly, all that Ali, Ameer Al-Mu’mineen, the most powerful man in the Islamic empire, needed to say is: O’ people, look! Ibn Abbas preaches the permissibility of it! Why do you condemn me?!

In conclusion, the argument that these words were said out of taqiyyah is simply ridiculous, not only because they were high in status and cannot be touched, but because these very opinions and practices were shared by some important early Sunnis, notably the Mekkans, like Ibn Abbas, Sa’eed, and Ibn Juraij.

Taken from: http://twelvershia.net/2014/03/21/response-to-sunnis-and-mutah/
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Re: Shaykh Tusi Said Imam Ali (as) forbade Muta under Taqiyyah
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 01:21:33 AM »
Supposedly, during the time of the 5th Imam the truth was slowly narrated to the Rafidah.

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Re: Shaykh Tusi Said Imam Ali (as) forbade Muta under Taqiyyah
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 04:47:41 AM »
huray for nawasib (shia). They believe Ali ra let people on fornication frenzy and did nothing. Imam is a guider alrite :p
« Last Edit: February 23, 2015, 04:50:01 AM by Hadrami »

 

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