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Banned at shiachat for exposing them from nahjul balagha
« on: June 29, 2017, 05:37:18 PM »
Assalam o Alaikum,

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235050475-imam-ali-and-taqqiyah

They have seriously nothing to quote from nahjul balagha in their defense except sermon 3 (which indeed is a fabrication). Can someone more knowledgeable make a specific aritcle refuting the sermon 3 and other related narrations in a more academic manner so in future they even not dare to use this fabricated sermon as well.

Some related narrations to this sermon are mentioned in above link.

Jazak Allah.
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

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Re: Banned at shiachat for exposing them from nahjul balagha
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 06:42:10 PM »
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Re: Banned at shiachat for exposing them from nahjul balagha
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 07:40:04 PM »
Even Sermon  3 doesn't reference Ghadir, Dawah Ashira or the fact that he was divinely appointed. It just states that Ali was sidelined and how was more qualified to lead the ummah. The anology Ali uses is how an axis fits a mill so perfectly that's how he was the ideal candidate to lead. However this doesn't mean he was divinely appointed followed by 11 Imams.

fgss

Re: Banned at shiachat for exposing them from nahjul balagha
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 06:28:03 AM »
Even Sermon  3 doesn't reference Ghadir, Dawah Ashira or the fact that he was divinely appointed. It just states that Ali was sidelined and how was more qualified to lead the ummah. The anology Ali uses is how an axis fits a mill so perfectly that's how he was the ideal candidate to lead. However this doesn't mean he was divinely appointed followed by 11 Imams.

I used these same arguments there but got no answer. In fact got a tag of nasibi etc. This is how they usually react when truth became clear to them. Their final cards are taqqiyah and accusing others of being nawasib.
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

 

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