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(Question for Sunnies) Is there anything you realy like about shia religion?

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ShiaMan

Yes, I abhor Shias. They're worse than pigs. :)

No, I mean, I wouldn't lose sleep or shed tears of the death of Shia people in their masses.

I sincerely thank Allah (swt) for that. Allah knows we do not want nor need the tears of any nasibi.

Optimus Prime

Yes, I abhor Shias. They're worse than pigs. :)

No, I mean, I wouldn't lose sleep or shed tears of the death of Shia people in their masses.

I sincerely thank Allah (swt) for that. Allah knows we do not want nor need the tears of any nasibi.

Like Hussain (RA) doesn't need your flagellating antics, and crocodiles tears, right? :D

ShiaMan

Like Hussain (RA) doesn't need your flagellating antics, and crocodiles tears, right? :D

he doesnt. We only do it to spite people like you and by the look of things, it works.

Optimus Prime

Like Hussain (RA) doesn't need your flagellating antics, and crocodiles tears, right? :D

he doesnt. We only do it to spite people like you and by the look of things, it works.

At least you admit it.

Thumbs up for you lad.

ShiaMan

Like Hussain (RA) doesn't need your flagellating antics, and crocodiles tears, right? :D

he doesnt. We only do it to spite people like you and by the look of things, it works.

At least you admit it.

Thumbs up for you lad.

It's funny that you have a problem with shias flagellating ourselves but no problem with sunnis suicide - bombing yourselves.

To make it simple for you, it's like you having a problem with papercuts but are okay with deep stab wounds. Laughable

Ibn Yahya

He doesnt. We only do it to spite people like you and by the look of things, it works.

So in other words your tears of grief, your endless moaning songs and poems, your flagellation and proud chants is all really over the fact that you don't like people with different ideas to you, probable signs of a napolean complex or paranoia.

ShiaMan

He doesnt. We only do it to spite people like you and by the look of things, it works.

So in other words your tears of grief, your endless moaning songs and poems, your flagellation and proud chants is all really over the fact that you don't like people with different ideas to you, probable signs of a napolean complex or paranoia.

I suppose along with truth and all things that are good, you folks don't understand jest either. Hahaha

You should worry about your people who blow themselves up instead of shais scratching ourselves.

fgss

Rafidhis, Nasibis and Kharijites all are misguided, people of innovation and takfir. They all caused division among ummah and separated from Ahlul Sunnah wal Jamah.

The term Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamah means following the Sunnah of Prophet which is derived only from authentic narrations and to be with the majority (Jamah). Majority means those who are on path of majority of sahabah, tabi'in and taba tabi'in (First 300 hijrah years).

Maula Ali a.s says in Nahjul Balagha sermon 127,

With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from rightfulness, and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness. The best man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course. So be with him and be with the great majority (of Muslims) because Allah's hand (of protection) is on keeping unity. You should beware of division because the one isolated from the group is (a prey) to Satan just as the one isolated from the flock of sheep is (a prey) to the wolf.

Comment: And the great majority of muslims during the time of Maula Ali a.s were those who loved and befriended Abu Bakr a.s and Umar a.s. We are with that majority of muslims. Majority at that time was not rafidhis, nasibis or kharijis.

What Maula Ali a.s said is in accordance with what Prophet s.a.w.w also said,

(1) "I saw the Prophet [SAW] on the Minbar addressing the people. He said: 'After me there will be many calamities and much evil behavior. Whoever you see splitting away from the Jama'ah or trying to create division among the Ummah of Muhammad [SAW], then kill him, for the Hand of Allah is with the Jama'ah, and the Shaitan is with the one who splits away from the Ummah, running with him.'" Source: http://www.sunnah.com/nasai/37/55

(2) A man said: Messenger of Allah! It seems as if it were a farewell exhortation, so what injunction do you give us?

He then said: I enjoin you to fear Allah, and to hear and obey even if it be an Abyssinian slave, for those of you who live after me will see great disagreement. You must then follow my sunnah and that of the rightly-guided caliphs. Hold to it and stick fast to it. Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. Source: http://sunnah.com/abudawud/42/12

But neither every shia nor every sunni is Rafidhi, Nasibi or Khariji. Accusing anyone of such thing without proper knowledge is also misguidance.
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إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

Ibn Yahya



I suppose along with truth and all things that are good, you folks don't understand jest either. Hahaha

You should worry about your people who blow themselves up instead of shais scratching ourselves.

So in other words you've admitted that your religion makes no sense in the context of Islam. BTW what did Imam as-Sadiq say about sarcasm?

About suicide bombing. The only people who permit it are Khariji terrorists, but with Self-flagellation (describing it as scratching is like describing stabbing someone as poking someone with a mildly pointy object) the only ones who permit it are Shiites. See the connection?

Since you're so interested in suicide bombing (which is condemned as haram by every sunni scholar) you should know why its totally irrelevant. Kharijis justify suicide bombing by saying its a martyrdom and its Jihad which makes it halal. It is however haram by most scholars because it involves suicide. However you Shia say its permissable based on a loophole i.e that theres nothing prohibiting it (even though thats not true even for shia books). However we say its haram because it is prohibited as a form of grieving due to many reports from the messenger of Allah.

See how they're two totally different subjects? (You do but to save your pride you'll carry on acting like you don't anyway)

Also may I ask why Hezbollah and Iran utilises suicide bombing?

ShiaMan


So in other words you've admitted that your religion makes no sense in the context of Islam. BTW what did Imam as-Sadiq say about sarcasm?


Making fun of chatter Imam Ali means shia islam makes no sense. Clearly logic and jest are not your strong suit.
What does Imam Al-Sadiq say about takfir?


About suicide bombing. The only people who permit it are Khariji terrorists, but with Self-flagellation (describing it as scratching is like describing stabbing someone as poking someone with a mildly pointy object) the only ones who permit it are Shiites. See the connection?

Since you're so interested in suicide bombing (which is condemned as haram by every sunni scholar) you should know why its totally irrelevant. Kharijis justify suicide bombing by saying its a martyrdom and its Jihad which makes it halal. It is however haram by most scholars because it involves suicide. However you Shia say its permissable based on a loophole i.e that theres nothing prohibiting it (even though thats not true even for shia books). However we say its haram because it is prohibited as a form of grieving due to many reports from the messenger of Allah.

See how they're two totally different subjects? (You do but to save your pride you'll carry on acting like you don't anyway)

Also may I ask why Hezbollah and Iran utilises suicide bombing?

Wow - surely you are the first one on this forum to condemn the killings by ISIS and other Kharijees. Kudos brother. Perhaps you can teach chatter Imam Ali something about this.

Since you do not believe in suicide bombing, we can have an intelligent discussion about self-flagellation and grieving. No problem.

It is true that Hezbollah did suicide bombings - but who were they targeting? US and French military bases and not bazaars and markets and innocent bystanders.

 

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