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taha taha

Quran Tawassul Prayer "Shia" video (s)
« on: July 07, 2016, 02:55:06 AM »

taha taha

Re: Quran Tawassul Prayer "Shia" video (s)
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2016, 02:55:42 AM »

Ibn Yahya

Re: Quran Tawassul Prayer "Shia" video (s)
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2016, 06:45:30 AM »
They cant call this Tawassul because they're asking directly to the 12th Imam. No asking him to ask Allah.

learning boy

Re: Quran Tawassul Prayer "Shia" video (s)
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 03:06:49 AM »
Salam brother Ibn Yahya,

What do you think tawwassul means? It is only logical that the only reason you do tawassul through the imam is that you want him to intercede for you. It is asking the imam directly to ask Allah. There is no other type of tawwassul.

muslim720

Re: Quran Tawassul Prayer "Shia" video (s)
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 01:49:52 PM »
Salam brother Ibn Yahya,

What do you think tawwassul means? It is only logical that the only reason you do tawassul through the imam is that you want him to intercede for you. It is asking the imam directly to ask Allah. There is no other type of tawwassul.

Salaam alaykum wa rahmatullah,
Welcome!  May your stay turn out fruitful to you and to us.

There are three types of tawassul:
1)  Beseeching Allah (swt) using His Names and Attributes.
2)  Asking Allah (swt) for something by mentioning a good deed you have done.  For example, you gave a poor person money so when you pray, you say, "ya Allah, for the sake of the charitable act I performed today, please grant me such and such".
3)  Asking a pious individual who is ALIVE to supplicate to Allah (swt) for you.

Having said that, since I am extremely spiritual as well, I do not mind going to shrines and supplicating to Allah (swt) for what I want or need.  I will clarify that statement.  If I go to a shrine - let's say I go to Karbala to visit Imam Hussain [ra] - I will offer 2 rakat facing the qibla.  Then, I will raise my hands and supplicate to Allah [swt].  I will not ask Imam Hussain [ra] for anything. 

I believe - and this is my personal belief which may or may not have a root in Islam - that you can be closer to Allah [swt] standing next to a holy person or standing on holy ground.  Therefore, I do not mind visiting shrines because I am in proximity to a saint.  But that does not mean I will pray to the person buried there.  My supplication is to Allah [swt], my worship is for Allah [swt] and my sajdah is to Allah [swt].
"Our coward ran from those in authority" - Iceman (admitting the truth regarding his 12th Imam)

learning boy

Re: Quran Tawassul Prayer "Shia" video (s)
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 01:26:42 AM »


Salaam alaykum wa rahmatullah,
Welcome!  May your stay turn out fruitful to you and to us.

There are three types of tawassul:
1)  Beseeching Allah (swt) using His Names and Attributes.
2)  Asking Allah (swt) for something by mentioning a good deed you have done.  For example, you gave a poor person money so when you pray, you say, "ya Allah, for the sake of the charitable act I performed today, please grant me such and such".
3)  Asking a pious individual who is ALIVE to supplicate to Allah (swt) for you.

Having said that, since I am extremely spiritual as well, I do not mind going to shrines and supplicating to Allah (swt) for what I want or need.  I will clarify that statement.  If I go to a shrine - let's say I go to Karbala to visit Imam Hussain [ra] - I will offer 2 rakat facing the qibla.  Then, I will raise my hands and supplicate to Allah [swt].  I will not ask Imam Hussain [ra] for anything. 

I believe - and this is my personal belief which may or may not have a root in Islam - that you can be closer to Allah [swt] standing next to a holy person or standing on holy ground.  Therefore, I do not mind visiting shrines because I am in proximity to a saint.  But that does not mean I will pray to the person buried there.  My supplication is to Allah [swt], my worship is for Allah [swt] and my sajdah is to Allah [swt].

Wow, agreed agreed agreed! I look at it this way too!

Sabih

Re: Quran Tawassul Prayer "Shia" video (s)
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2016, 10:37:16 AM »
Salam brother Ibn Yahya,

What do you think tawwassul means? It is only logical that the only reason you do tawassul through the imam is that you want him to intercede for you. It is asking the imam directly to ask Allah. There is no other type of tawwassul.

Salaam alaykum wa rahmatullah,
Welcome!  May your stay turn out fruitful to you and to us.

There are three types of tawassul:
1)  Beseeching Allah (swt) using His Names and Attributes.
2)  Asking Allah (swt) for something by mentioning a good deed you have done.  For example, you gave a poor person money so when you pray, you say, "ya Allah, for the sake of the charitable act I performed today, please grant me such and such".
3)  Asking a pious individual who is ALIVE to supplicate to Allah (swt) for you.
Only this way we can succeed in this world and here after.

Having said that, since I am extremely spiritual as well, I do not mind going to shrines and supplicating to Allah (swt) for what I want or need.  I will clarify that statement.  If I go to a shrine - let's say I go to Karbala to visit Imam Hussain [ra] - I will offer 2 rakat facing the qibla.  Then, I will raise my hands and supplicate to Allah [swt].  I will not ask Imam Hussain [ra] for anything. 

I believe - and this is my personal belief which may or may not have a root in Islam - that you can be closer to Allah [swt] standing next to a holy person or standing on holy ground.  Therefore, I do not mind visiting shrines because I am in proximity to a saint.  But that does not mean I will pray to the person buried there.  My supplication is to Allah [swt], my worship is for Allah [swt] and my sajdah is to Allah [swt].

Rightly said. Only this way we can succeed in this world and hereafter.

 

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